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Is it awful to be considering a doodle..? First time dog owner

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AmpleLilacQuail · 08/09/2025 13:08

Hi all, I’ve been thinking about getting my first dog for a few years and I’m now in a position to do so - very exciting.

Initially I was sucked into the cockapoo/cavapoo ‘hype’ but I went off them as I was worried about potential behavioural and health issues. I then had my heart set on a Cavalier King Charles Spaniel although I know they have their own health issues!

Anyway, now the time has come to get the dog, I’m back to considering a cockapoo.. is it terrible of me? I am open to other small/medium sized dogs too, if anyone has any suggestions?

The main driver behind this is that I live rurally and it’s much easier to travel an hour or two to a cockapoo pup, as it could be a 7 hour drive (each way!) for a CKCS.. which is just too far.

I check my local SSPCA weekly and I never see any dogs that would be suitable for me as a first time dog owner.

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CoubousAndTourmaIet · 17/09/2025 09:44

ACavalierDream · 17/09/2025 07:14

Good post; well written.

The only point I would make is that 8 weeks is in my opinion too young. I picked up my first pup at 10 weeks and the second one at 12 with a full set of vaccinations. You can travel longer with a 12 weeks pup. I did 3.5 hours with her.

Seeing how hard it is to get another one from a good breeder, I would travel longer if needed but not with an 8 weeks old.

We had one pup at 7 weeks because the breeder had done a home check and met our calm, placid adult dog of the same breed. They felt that pup would settle very quickly with our adult male, and she did. She also slept through the entire 4 hour journey home, as many pups do. She was a very bold and confident dog.

Current pup was 8 weeks which as @SpanielsGalore says, is pretty much the average age that most breeders let them go.

ACavalierDream · 17/09/2025 10:19

SpanielsGalore · 17/09/2025 09:25

@ACavalierDream I think you are in the minority there. The vast majority of puppies go to their new homes at 8 weeks old.

I realize that. All my childhood dogs were picked up at 8 weeks. For my Italian the breeder refused to let her go before her fill set of vaccines. For the whippet I could not pick her up earlier and the breeder kept her for an extra 2 weeks. I did quite like that. For me 10 weeks is perfect.

correct me if I am wrong but for top show breeders often they want to see them grow a bit before deciding which one to part with. How long do those tend to keep puppies for?

ACavalierDream · 17/09/2025 10:25

CoubousAndTourmaIet · 17/09/2025 09:44

We had one pup at 7 weeks because the breeder had done a home check and met our calm, placid adult dog of the same breed. They felt that pup would settle very quickly with our adult male, and she did. She also slept through the entire 4 hour journey home, as many pups do. She was a very bold and confident dog.

Current pup was 8 weeks which as @SpanielsGalore says, is pretty much the average age that most breeders let them go.

Fair enough. It is just if given the choice, I would prefer a 10 weeks old puppy. It worked well for my whippet and the Italian but I knew they were well looked after and socialised. Not saying an 8 weeks isn’t but it worked for me 2.

CoubousAndTourmaIet · 17/09/2025 10:39

ACavalierDream · 17/09/2025 10:25

Fair enough. It is just if given the choice, I would prefer a 10 weeks old puppy. It worked well for my whippet and the Italian but I knew they were well looked after and socialised. Not saying an 8 weeks isn’t but it worked for me 2.

I'm a great believer that different things suit different breeds. Possibly 10 or 12 weeks is more appropriate for some, more sensitive and (potentially) highly strung breeds such as yours. They possibly do benefit from spending longer with the dam and littermates.

But certainly with the giants, they are pretty robust at 8 weeks and getting them early is an advantage, in my experience at least. If they've been well reared by an experienced breeder, very little fazes them, even at 8 weeks.

Dorabledoreen · 17/09/2025 10:42

We brought home our miniature poodle at age nine weeks. She settled straight away and came practically housetrained. She had been living indoors with her siblings, her mum and her grandmother. The breeder said that they routinely send them all outside for housetraining.

Nine weeks definitely worked for our puppy.

LandSharksAnonymous · 17/09/2025 10:49

ACavalierDream · 17/09/2025 10:19

I realize that. All my childhood dogs were picked up at 8 weeks. For my Italian the breeder refused to let her go before her fill set of vaccines. For the whippet I could not pick her up earlier and the breeder kept her for an extra 2 weeks. I did quite like that. For me 10 weeks is perfect.

correct me if I am wrong but for top show breeders often they want to see them grow a bit before deciding which one to part with. How long do those tend to keep puppies for?

You're wrong, at least from a Goldie perspective on the second point 😊I can usually tell which ones will do well in shows by about 6-8 weeks. But Goldies develop quickly and could easily be sent home by 7 weeks. I've mentioned previously, but Eris (my youngest) from the day her littermates went home was able to hold her bladder from 8pm-5am. Even though I had set alarms to wake her, she slept through.

I knew Twatdog was destined to do well in showing from about 6 weeks - and he was due to go to a home that wanted to show him, but it fell through. I kept him, and he's routinely done well at shows (despite his less than stellar markings). His littermate has a JW and, again, I sent him to a family that wanted to show.

Some dog breeds the breeders do want to keep them for longer (I think Chis, for example they tend to say 12 weeks?), but for most retrievers and larger breeds if they've been well bred they can handle almost anything.

ACavalierDream · 17/09/2025 10:55

CoubousAndTourmaIet · 17/09/2025 10:39

I'm a great believer that different things suit different breeds. Possibly 10 or 12 weeks is more appropriate for some, more sensitive and (potentially) highly strung breeds such as yours. They possibly do benefit from spending longer with the dam and littermates.

But certainly with the giants, they are pretty robust at 8 weeks and getting them early is an advantage, in my experience at least. If they've been well reared by an experienced breeder, very little fazes them, even at 8 weeks.

It makes sense. Yes whippets and Italians particularly are neurotic. When I got my whippet at 10 weeks she was fully house trained. Iggy not so much… she is a witch.

ACavalierDream · 17/09/2025 10:56

LandSharksAnonymous · 17/09/2025 10:49

You're wrong, at least from a Goldie perspective on the second point 😊I can usually tell which ones will do well in shows by about 6-8 weeks. But Goldies develop quickly and could easily be sent home by 7 weeks. I've mentioned previously, but Eris (my youngest) from the day her littermates went home was able to hold her bladder from 8pm-5am. Even though I had set alarms to wake her, she slept through.

I knew Twatdog was destined to do well in showing from about 6 weeks - and he was due to go to a home that wanted to show him, but it fell through. I kept him, and he's routinely done well at shows (despite his less than stellar markings). His littermate has a JW and, again, I sent him to a family that wanted to show.

Some dog breeds the breeders do want to keep them for longer (I think Chis, for example they tend to say 12 weeks?), but for most retrievers and larger breeds if they've been well bred they can handle almost anything.

Please tell me Twatdog is his actual name.

LandSharksAnonymous · 17/09/2025 11:10

@ACavalierDream sadly it's not...but he does answer to it! His actual name is Ben. 😂

ACavalierDream · 17/09/2025 11:12

LandSharksAnonymous · 17/09/2025 11:10

@ACavalierDream sadly it's not...but he does answer to it! His actual name is Ben. 😂

Twatdog has a ring to it. I had a friend who has a dog in London called Taxi. He regularly ran off. Hilarious

OnlyHerefortheBiscuits · 17/09/2025 12:03

A friend got her doodle from a breeder would not let them go before five (yes, FIVE) months. She insisted on doing all the elementary training and socialisation (which is acclimatisation really) herself. She did not have another full time job obviously 🤣

she is a lovely little thing tbh so maybe that breeder is onto something. My friend went back a few years later for another.

SpanielsGalore · 17/09/2025 13:28

ACavalierDream · 17/09/2025 10:19

I realize that. All my childhood dogs were picked up at 8 weeks. For my Italian the breeder refused to let her go before her fill set of vaccines. For the whippet I could not pick her up earlier and the breeder kept her for an extra 2 weeks. I did quite like that. For me 10 weeks is perfect.

correct me if I am wrong but for top show breeders often they want to see them grow a bit before deciding which one to part with. How long do those tend to keep puppies for?

Landsharks has answered as regards show puppies . My spaniels are working strain and their breeder had chosen which ones he was keeping before 8 weeks of age. I guess when you are experienced in your field, you can recognise potential.

AmpleLilacQuail · 19/09/2025 19:36

I’m just coming back to update that I’ve settled
on a Cavalier King Charles. My brothers GF is a vet and we’ve spoken at length about everything.

Now to find one ☺️

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Wolfiefan · 19/09/2025 20:19

Contact the breed club and do your research into the health conditions and the specialist tests parents should have. And get good insurance. They are prone to a lot!

AmpleLilacQuail · 19/09/2025 20:26

Yes I have researched thank you, plus had a lot of helpful input from vet.

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NosnowontheScottishhills · 19/09/2025 21:14

AmpleLilacQuail · 08/09/2025 13:44

Thanks all. For context I live in the highlands so plenty of nice breeders around here and across Scotland, it’s just deciding what’s right for me. And just to be clear I’m not going to get a dog for the sake of it. If I can’t find a pup/breeder I’m happy with then I’ll be going to the SSPCA for another puss.

My neighbour has Skye terrier he’s absolutely gorgeous and has a lovely temperament. I also own a rare breed that originates from a certain area in the country and must of the breeders are located in that area, I recently met for the first time a couple Gordon setter all around Fochabers where they originate from according to the owners same story so it might be the same for Skye’s. The hair if left obviously requires a lot of input but apparently you can clip the short if you’re not showing them.

NosnowontheScottishhills · 19/09/2025 21:37

https://www.petmd.com/dog/breeds/skye-terrier
how could anyone resist one of these although I suspect t you might have to wait/go in a waiting list for a puppy.

Skye Terrier

Skye Terriers are a rare dog breed from Scotland. Learn to care for Skye Terrier puppies and dogs here.

https://www.petmd.com/dog/breeds/skye-terrier

AllrightNowBaby · 20/09/2025 19:34

AmpleLilacQuail · 19/09/2025 19:36

I’m just coming back to update that I’ve settled
on a Cavalier King Charles. My brothers GF is a vet and we’ve spoken at length about everything.

Now to find one ☺️

Awwwww! Absolutely the most gorgeous, lovable dogs ever.
I’ve had two both tri-colour and Dd has one now…. Adorable doggies 🥰

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