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Please recommend a dog for our family

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abairliom · 08/04/2024 10:36

Good morning
We have decided to welcome a dog to our family.
I never had a dog at home growing up so I'm not used to dogs but am
Looking forward to our new addition.
I live in a modest three bed semi and there will be someone at home all day at all times for the first six months . We also have a small back garden with a big shed and I will get a solid gate at the side to prevent escape and enjoy safety.

I would prefer a dog that does not shed , enjoys children with a gentle temperament that does not require huge specific training or long long walks every day.

Please respond as if you were talking to an absolute beginner. I appreciate all advice and support as i believe that a dog would be a wonderful and much loved addition to our family, thank you.

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Devilshands · 08/04/2024 11:28

BrokenWing · 08/04/2024 11:19

Dogs and a life with dogs is fantastic!

You need to go into it completely aware of the commitment you will be making for the next 10-15 years and this the right place to ask because posters will try to put you off getting a dog and if you come out the other end committed, determined and still keen then you might just be a doggie person! You should approach this thinking about what you can give a dog rather than what a dog can give you.

Lets start with the commitment -

Dogs need exercise for physical and mental stimulation or they are going to get bored, depressed and possibly destructive. That means a good walk in the morning, afternoon and evening come rain, hail, snow, dark nights for 10-15 years - at least one of those daily walks should be > 1hr and preferably off lead. In summer it is tough because they cannot go out when it is too hot as they easily overheat and concrete gets too hot to walk on. So summer walks tend to be very early morning and late at night when it is cooler, or if you are lucky to be near a dense wood, that is a good place to walk as cooler/out the sun. They will come home from winter (and autumn and spring) walks wet and caked in mud (if it is a decent walk for them!). Your small garden will not be enough for exercise or mental stimulation or a alternative to walks in all weathers, the garden you previously enjoyed will become your dogs toilet - if you have grass it is likely to be ruined.

Dogs also need mental stimulation. The generally means training. Training is continuous throughout the dogs life, more intense in the first 6 - 18 months through the puppy and stubborn teenage phases. You will need to teach strong recall so you can let you dog off lead to exercise, this training of recall never stops and can be easily lost and difficult to recover if you become complacent.

Dogs are expensive. Insurance will start cheap. By the time our dog was 10 years old it was £100/month. But imo needed, a consultation with the vets can be £60-£80, an overnight stay for something minor like vomiting can be £400-£500+. Emergency vets in evenings and weekend hundreds of pounds. Prescriptions are expensive. Monthly flea and worming is expensive too £20/month+. Decent food will set you back £40-£50+ a month. Add in walkers and if you are going for a dog that doesn't cast regular grooming costs.

Dogs are very restrictive. You can no longer go to weddings, funerals, holidays, days out without always considering the dog first. You also need to spend as much time training your children how to behave around a dog as you do the dog - young children should never be left with the dog unsupervised - so if you are all relaxing in the garden and you want to pop indoors you get into the habit of taking either the dog or the child with you.

Dogs don't always behave the way you want/expect. You could have issues - some very common ones are house training, excessive barking, resource guarding, separation anxiety, health issues. You cannot guarantee a dog that "enjoys children with a gentle temperament" - that is partly nature partly nurture - our very placid Labrador wasn't great with ds(9 at the time) when we first got him. All can be very time consuming or expensive to try to improve (some can never be fixed only managed).

After all that......still love dogs. We lost ours to cancer last year and I am now desperate for another, but I know even though we have the experience of dog ownership we don't currently have the lifestyle for the intense puppy first couple of years or settling in a rescue dog. Will need to wait until I retire in 5-6 years time.

Keep researching, and just make sure you 100% know what you are letting yourself in for as many people don't do their homework and regret it.

This is excellent advice.

I would also add that all dogs need ongoing training attention for their whole lives. You can't just teach a dog 'sit, stay, down and recall' and expect that to be that.

All dogs need mental stimulation. Many dogs are puppies for up to two years - they need a lot of attention/stimulation and that isn't covered by a walk. They need brain games. To learn new tricks. Go to new places etc. Likewise many older dogs do to - otherwise they get bored and destructive.

I would also add, if your children are below the age of about 12 then you need to be really careful of what breed you get - particularly if you are not going to want to do ongoing training and cannot commit to significant exercise (2 hours a day). I'd automatically rule out any/all gun dogs, pastoral, utility and working group dogs.

BrokenWing · 08/04/2024 11:30

HanaJane · 08/04/2024 11:19

I think people are being very negative actually! Everyone was a first time dog owner once so having no experience is not a reason not to get a dog, and you're at least doing your research before committing!
But saying that while some dogs are easier to train than others they do all still need training, and I would recommend going to puppy training classes especially as you're a new dog owner.
They will also all need at least one walk a day, but leaving alone for 3 hours after 6 months sounds fine.
Does it have to be a puppy? You could consider a young rescue dog as the shelter will have already started training them and will have a good idea of their temperament?
Labradors are an easy to train dog and not too bad with shedding and grooming, will be a bundle of energy at first but they do calm down.
Or a staffie? My PIL have a staffie x he is very friendly and good with kids, short hair. Strong though, will need lead training.
We had a border terrier when I was a child, lovely little dog! She never moulted so did need regular trips to the groomers.
We have a border collie, he is a good boy and fits in with us but does need a good walk every day, and they are easy to train but also have their weird little quirks so probably not for you!

Labradors are .......................not too bad with shedding

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Don't think I have ever heard a Labrador owner say that before!

Daffodilsarentfluffy · 08/04/2024 11:39

Our Lurchers enjoy a bedtime story with ds 9. I once asked him who was his favourite.. He said if there was space for 1 he would shove her along to make room for the other.. Factually my dc are a nicer bunch for having our ddogs. No question about it.

Oldermum84 · 08/04/2024 11:45

Greyhound! Contact your local retired greyhound trust and they will look to match you with the perfect hound. Good luck!

abairliom · 08/04/2024 11:55

It does not need to be a puppy at all and I'd prefer a rescue of at all possible.

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Devilshands · 08/04/2024 11:58

abairliom · 08/04/2024 11:55

It does not need to be a puppy at all and I'd prefer a rescue of at all possible.

How old are your children?

Lots of rescues (rightly) won't rehome with children.

You should also be aware that lots of rescues match you to the dog now - they do not let you pick. Many rescue dogs also have lots of issues that the centre are either wilfully blind to or outright lie about. Breed specific ones (Spaniel Aid - please do not get a spaniel - or Greyhound rescues) are usually slightly better about being honest...but they can be very strict on rehoming with children.

bunnygeek · 08/04/2024 11:58

How old are your children? Rescues are fab but don't necessarily mean they come "ready made" and will need as much training as a puppy, and sometimes come with complex quirks that need an experienced hand to untangle.

Rescues are also, rightly, wary of adopting out to homes with young children. While they will have dogs that can go to homes with young kids there are not many and they usually get adopted within seconds of being signed over as they are the most in demand.

I adopted my girl privately at 7 years old (she's a PomChi) and she's taken a year of daily training to not utterly scream at every dog she sees, we still have the odd screaming fit and I don't think she'll ever really be comfortable interacting with other dogs again. She's our first dog, but I've been working in the animal rescue sector for 7 years so had my head screwed on when we took her on.

MrsGalloway · 08/04/2024 11:58

How old are your children? Reputable rescues (in my experience) have age limits and they can be pretty strict about how much time the dog can be left for.

MrsGalloway · 08/04/2024 12:00

Also not trying to put you off OP! We were all first time dog owners once but it’s definitely something you need to go into with eyes wide open.

FayCarew · 08/04/2024 12:03

Get a cat instead.

Mum1976Mum · 08/04/2024 12:04

Ignore all the prickly comments. Honestly, according to mumsnet no one new should get a dog.

We have a cockapoo. He is the friendliest, most loveable dog we could ever wish for. Marvellous with the children. Happy to go a 3 hour hike but also happy to spend the day lounging on the sofa if we just can’t take him for a walk for some reason.

I work from home so someone is around most of the time but, shock horror, occasionally life happens and he is left on his own for hours. He’s fine. Just naps.

We went to puppy dog training each week for about 3 months and now he is pretty well behaved. His recall isn’t 100% so we keep him on a long lead when out and about unless we are at the dog park and he’s contained. We are still working on this though.

3 months is a great amount of time to have at home with him to get the training started before the dog walking kicks in.

Have a look at the cavapoos/cockerpoos for smallish family dogs. Many are non shedding too

Amireallyhere · 08/04/2024 12:06

We are first time dog owners and I think most of the above advice is worth serious consideration. We have a poochon, she is small with a lovely temperament and she doesn't shed. We got her 6 years ago when our dcs were teenagers. Dh works from home all the time and is able to do a long morning walk. She brings a lot to all our lives.

However because someone is at home all the time and she is used to company, she gets distressed when we leave her. This is really quite limiting and something you should consider. Now our children are moving on and not around to help, we can't go out much or for long without a sitter. You need to have a plan for holidays too. Either you make sure they are dog friendly (this will probably mean finding dog friendly rentals and will limit activities - even beaches in the summer months don't allow dogs). Or you need a reliable boarder (in our experience not easy to find) as many dogs can't cope with kennels.

The cost is another issue as insurance ramps up as the dog gets older, also grooming costs for non shedding dogs, worming and flee treatments on top of food.

None of this is meant to put you off, but you need to go into it with your eyes open. We didn't anticipate how much time a puppy would require, socialisation is so important. Our dog was easy to house train, but dealing with other training needs and stimulation is an on going commitment.

We have found it hard at times but she has brought so much joy to our lives. I'm not sure we fully anticipated how much she would limit us, much more so than having a baby, because at least a baby can be taken to most places with you.

MaMisled · 08/04/2024 12:07

Completely agree, obviously, that dogs do need all mentioned here, training, total commitment, money, time, hard work etc.

But..........the chances are you will fall in love with the dog and none of the above will be as exhausting or thankless as it sounds!

Movingon2024 · 08/04/2024 12:09

I was a first time dog owner too pp.

Things I have learned in addition to thr useful advice above.-

  • If you can find a rescue that suits, great. But, mine in the area were full of large breed dogs with 'issues'. We wanted small family dog. Just couldn't find one.

-Ended up through a breeder with a lovely, lovely puppy. So sweet, so adorable and omg such hard work. DonMt underestimate it (I did). It's like having a new baby then toddler again.

Training - yes, but tbh some of the replies here are a bit ott. We did puppy classes, then adolescent classes, and no problem at all with our doggie - good recall, sweet natured so wants to please.

Walking - it does absorb hours and sometimes you curse it. But overall it's good to get out & very sociable with other dog owners.

Costs - yup. Insurance a must. Every time I step through the door to thr vet's it's £50.

They are brilliant, brilliant fun. I adore my cockapoo (frowned on here), she's a wonderful addition to our family and has such a sweet and happy nature. If you've thought it through and are ready for all it brings, they really do bring such joy.

Cavalierchaos · 08/04/2024 12:45

God the replies on this thread!

I'm a new dog owner, OP! I got a King Charles Cavalier puppy and he's 12 weeks now, I've had him for 3 weeks in total.

I did so much research over years, but nothing can really prepare you for it. All my research said Cavaliers are great first dogs, placid and calm etc. God, mine's not! He's hyper, can't keep still and spends most of his waking hours biting and hanging off my toes/legs/hands/arms.

If I could turn back time, I would get an adult instead! Puppy stage is such hard, stressful work.

DrJoanAllenby · 08/04/2024 12:50

'We also have a small back garden with a big shed and I will get a solid gate at the side to prevent escape and enjoy safety.'

Translation - we will let the dog out in the garden unsupervised.

This will encourage barking, risk of dog being stolen and will probably encourage boredom behaviour such as digging etc.

DrJoanAllenby · 08/04/2024 12:51

@ZipZapZoom

'Please don't get a dog. You have no experience, you've done no research, you sound clueless and your list of preferences shows you haven't given this any more thought than oh wouldn't it be nice to have a cute puppy.'

I completely agree with you 100 %

oakleaffy · 08/04/2024 12:59

We had a Lurcher as a first dog (RSPCA) tiny garden Very high secure fences.

ALL dogs require training.
No such thing as a dog who doesn’t.

Children also need to learn to respect a dog’s space.

Six months with someone home all day??

What happens for the next 12 years?

Dogs can suffer terribly left alone.

A very experienced dog person said when asked about Temperament and training said:

What was your old dog like?
this one will be like that”

EG It’s the work you put in that counts.

Ive never had a barky dog- All mine are/ have been silent- not sure why this should be as her siblings are loud!

Even within a breed/ type there is huge variation.

The shed??
Hopefully @abairliom wont be keeping dog there- why mention a shed??

Garden size immaterial as dogs need daily walks .

rainontherooftop · 08/04/2024 13:00

idontlikealdi · 08/04/2024 10:46

You sound totally unprepared to have a dog. Please do some research.

I assume MN is part of that research, so no need to be so harsh. Responses on here can prompt the OP to do more specific research and enable her to consider things she may not have thought of.

bingoringo4 · 08/04/2024 13:03

DrJoanAllenby · 08/04/2024 12:50

'We also have a small back garden with a big shed and I will get a solid gate at the side to prevent escape and enjoy safety.'

Translation - we will let the dog out in the garden unsupervised.

This will encourage barking, risk of dog being stolen and will probably encourage boredom behaviour such as digging etc.

I'm sorry do you never let your dog out unsupervised?

mynamechangemyrules · 08/04/2024 13:04

OP, I have a rescue dog from a breed specific rescue centre which allowed it (I have children and a job outside the home) because they knew this breed were suitable for this situation.
I'm sitting in the garden with our dog now and he's lovely.
As he was adopted at 3 I missed the puppy years but he's had good training so that was lucky. Lovely family dog, not so lovely with other furry creatures... but we all love him!

Might be an option to look into adoption once you've worked out a suitable breed?

bingoringo4 · 08/04/2024 13:05

The responses on this thread are ridiculous.

Haveli · 08/04/2024 13:08

I have a lurcher and a spaniel (and a small child). I wouldn't recommend a spaniel for a first dog, they are lovely but a lot of work. My lurcher is a dream - she's a rescue and is the most loving, gentle soul. She can't be let off lead due to her prey drive but tbh it doesn't seem to bother her - she's much happier on the sofa than out in the cold. She's big but folds up small (fits in the spaniels bed!).

However we call her GBL (greedy bastard lurcher) because she is absolutely RELENTLESS around food. To the extent that she's not allowed in the room when my toddler eats, we can't leave any food out on the counters as she can easily get on to them and she will even go through the bin. And I don't think that's uncommon for them! But that's her only flaw so if you can live with that I'd recommend a lurcher!

Where are you based? I can recommend a charity that will recommend some dogs to to families with children. Obviously most aren't suitable but ours was.

abairliom · 08/04/2024 13:09

Thanks for plenty of practical and sensible advice. My children are teenagers and adore dogs and we are all doing our research about having a dog at home and what that looks like and changes and commitments needed
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There has also been a lot of batshittery on here and even as a person unused to dogs... I know it when I see it .
Not allowing your dog to go out to the garden unsupervised despite being safe and enclosed !!!!
I despair .

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Damnedidont · 08/04/2024 13:12

Re homed guide dog? Pups that don't manage the intensive training are sold. They are house/lead trained fully vaccinated and have lovely temperaments