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Considering euthanising dog after bite

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Dogheartbreak · 09/01/2024 12:42

I feel so sick with the weight of this on my mind.
5 years ago, we rescued a dog from a UK charity that brings dogs from abroad. I am an experienced dog owner and wanted to save this dog's life. I have had rescue dogs before.
This dog was/is very nervous and reactive. I have worked with a behaviourist and the vet to improve the dogs quality of life and the improvements have been vast. But he's still a nervous dog and be off lead or anything out and about. I was happy that he loved his life with me, he was well cared for and happy and I would provide a safe and control environment for him to live out his days, walking when it's quieter and using secure fields etc.
I was told when I was younger I couldn't have children. Fast forward to one year after having the dog and I was pregnant. I've since had 2 kids and every precaution and loads of training went into prepping the dog. All was fine and obviously dog and kids never alone or anything. Easier when they were babies as they'd always be in our arms or if on the playmat we would be right there and the dog wasn't interested and has never approached one of the kids. Now they are toddlers and this is becoming so much harder to manage. The dog is visibly anxious if kids are in the same room so we separate and he ends up being in another room alone for hours which is obviously awful. We teach the kids how to behave but obviously they are toddlers and unpredictable, youngest in particular just wants to get to the dog whenever he can see him.
The other day, he was running through the kitchen to go outside and my 1yo reached out from his highchair and grabbed fur on the dogs back. He turned and bit his arm. Thankfully no major damage but had teeth marks and it could have so much worse. I took baby to drs obviously. We are incredibly vigilant but I am now terrified of a gate being left open, or eventually kids being able to open the gate or whatever and something happening.
He's very scared and aggressive towards strangers and I feel that if we weren't so vigilant with gates and the muzzle that he would have bitten someone else by now and could do again.
Obviously controlling the environment to this extent with 2 toddlers around is so hard. With the kids we also have more visitors to the house etc which stress the dog. I can't have the dog on a lead in the house as my kids are always all over me so if we have visitors the dog goes in his dog house in the garden (outside office with sofa and heating etc. he seems happy in there but I don't like doing it for more than an hour).
I feel like I can't have him in the house now this has happened. The rescue offer back up but I've seen them publicly shame people on their Facebook page that have done this. I also think they'll re-home the dog without disclosing the bite history and I could never forgive myself if he bit someone else, or worse
Also the thought of him having to be put down in a strange place. Or if the biting would mean he'd end up in a kennel for the rest of his days.
Please be kind. What can do. I love him so much but can't risk my children.

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kitsuneghost · 09/01/2024 15:10

It astounds me the number of people that think because someone doesn't have children they want a reactive dog instead

Dogheartbreak · 09/01/2024 15:14

@AdamRyan we have had regular, ongoing behaviourst support for the last 3 years. It's a great help but even she agrees that he has reached a level where he can't be less anxious or stressed. Like I said , we manage every situation minutely but managing toddlers and a reactive dog is hard. She believes it would be very stressful for him to be renowned and this may worsen his behaviour, making a bite more likely.

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Yalta · 09/01/2024 15:14

You cannot seriously blame the child. He is too young to understand how to treat animals. And children should be able to explore the world around them and express natural behaviour, rather than having to tiptoe around a reactive dog

My Ds who has adhd and had been walking for 3 months by the time he was 1 years old and dd (also with ADHD) knew by the time they were 1 years old that they were not allowed to even stroke our Ddog unless ddog had approached them and sat down and I said it was ok and even then they had to let her sniff their hand before stroking her. It’s about them learning that animals have the right to not be mauled and grabbed or suddenly surprised with a touch they weren’t expecting.

Dogheartbreak · 09/01/2024 15:15

*rehomed

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EeesandWhizz · 09/01/2024 15:17

He's not a young dog, you given him a great life, and going to rescue and/or re-homing again is irresponsible in my opinion. Have him PTS in his home surroundings after a great day, it's the only way that you can guarantee that he doesn't end up in a horrible situation and that he lives his best life until the end, even if that's only next week.

Sometimes you have to put what is better for the dog above what people think might be better - they can't all go to live on a farm ....

RatherBeADuck · 09/01/2024 15:18

Yalta · 09/01/2024 15:14

You cannot seriously blame the child. He is too young to understand how to treat animals. And children should be able to explore the world around them and express natural behaviour, rather than having to tiptoe around a reactive dog

My Ds who has adhd and had been walking for 3 months by the time he was 1 years old and dd (also with ADHD) knew by the time they were 1 years old that they were not allowed to even stroke our Ddog unless ddog had approached them and sat down and I said it was ok and even then they had to let her sniff their hand before stroking her. It’s about them learning that animals have the right to not be mauled and grabbed or suddenly surprised with a touch they weren’t expecting.

Well done you 🙄

By their nature children tend to be unpredictable. You can separate dogs and children 100% of the time but the OP has already said the dog is still stressed and anxious.

Crankyaboutfood · 09/01/2024 15:18

beatrix1234 · 09/01/2024 12:50

You don’t need to euthanise the dog, that’s a bit extreme measure. Can you give it for adoption? Find a child free person or family willing to adopt him? Just warn the new owners he’s not good with children. I totally understand your need to prioritise Your children safety so please don’t feel guilty about getting rid of the dog, maybe ask in Facebook groups, amongst friends and family. Maybe the dog is not happy with you either and would be better off in a different setting.

I agree with this. The dog was provoked--his fur was pulled. I home with multiple children is chaotic and stressful for the dog (and for you), but there are situations that sounds appropriate for this dog and I would pursue those before going directly to euthanasia. I know you are deeply distressed at the moment and understand the reaction. So sorry.

Pudmyboy · 09/01/2024 15:19

In your post OP you mention being put down in a strange place, do you have a vet service which can euthanase at home? I'm the Midlands it's Dignipets. It may cost more but would mean the dog doesn't have that extra stress and can be where it feels safe

Pudmyboy · 09/01/2024 15:19

in the Midlands

LiesDoNotBecomeUs · 09/01/2024 15:20

What is best for the children
-not to be bitten or frightened by a dog in their own home
-to have a completely cured safe dog stay with them
-not to live with a very stressed parent who guards the dog all the time and already knows that a cure is not possible.

What is best for the dog
-to continue life with this very caring and trusted owner... but without their children (Those disapproving plans for the dog will be even more disapproving if you decide to rehome the children OP.)
-not to change to new people - new spaces - more dogs - less understanding
-to end life happy to the very last minute - feeling safe and loved

laveritable · 09/01/2024 15:24

I could feel your heart for your dog , however you have to PTS!

Dogheartbreak · 09/01/2024 15:25

@Pudmyboy I meant if that's what a rescue ended up doing or if he bit in his new home. If we did it, it would be at home.

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ginasevern · 09/01/2024 15:25

So he was your surrogate "baby" until you discovered that you could in fact have children and now he's a bloody nuisance. I get it. The dog bit your child because he grabbed the dogs fur on his back, which would have startled and hurt him.

Send him back to the rescue centre and explain why. You owe the poor creature that much. Although you seem to be more concerned at being shamed on their FB Page.

Dogheartbreak · 09/01/2024 15:26

Thanks for the sanctuary links. I will look into those this evening.

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purplehotdogs · 09/01/2024 15:26

I'd try and rehome before I would consider euthanasia personally. Your dog only bit because he was put into a stressful situation (by YOU) and likely felt he had no other recourse.

I'm one of those people with dogs, no kids and minimal visitors in my home (like once a month) and I go out of my way to walk my dogs when it's quiet and where we won't see lots of people. They're actually very tolerant of kids and very friendly in general as it happens, but I don't like other people that much 😂

I also know a few other people with dogs with anxiety disorders and they are willing to work around it. They do usually have pretty unique set ups - own land, minimal visitors, enough space to shut the dog away securely when they do have visitors - but they are out there.

You do need to get your dog out of your home though, it's not fair on the dog or the kids to create the situation you currently have. The dog doesn't have many ways to say he's not feeling safe, and it sounds like the bite was a warning rather than malicious intent to harm.

Whatsgoingonwithmyhead · 09/01/2024 15:27

PTS

DeeLusional · 09/01/2024 15:27

On the plus side, baby has learned, without too much damage, not to pull a dog's fur.

JFDIYOLO · 09/01/2024 15:27

Poor boy. What's he's been through 😔

He is not right for a family with small children. He's bitten once, and so may do it again.

Children must come first.

Try to re-home, be absolutely honest about his history and his needs - you may find an experienced new owner with lots of time, a suitable home and no children.

But if you can't, you cannot risk your child for a dog you feel guilty about but didn't train and change.

NoTouch · 09/01/2024 15:29

The risk is too high he cannot stay in the same home with your children.

I wouldn't want to put a rescue dog, now with a bite history, through going back into kennels again. He is a dog and doesn't know what's coming. Putting him back into kennels would be for you to not feel guilty about "killing" him, it is not the best option for him now waiting in kennels for potentially months or perhaps never getting a new owner.

Spoil him rotten, then PTS.

Dogheartbreak · 09/01/2024 15:30

@JFDIYOLO 'but didn't train and change'.
He is trained and changed. He used go mad at the door, now he goes to his bed and waits. He used to lunge and bark at the sight of a dog on a walk, he now walks perfectly at heel and can walk on the other side of the road after years of work. But he is deeply and inherently anxious. Would you expect a human who has been through what he has to be able to completely recover?

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Notmetoo · 09/01/2024 15:30

Geekylover · 09/01/2024 13:18

Put the dog up for adoption. And teach your kids not to pull at animals fur else it will happen again

It was a baby that leant over in his highchair as the dog was passing !
. The dog was rehomed five year ago and despite OP providing it with a loving home it is still unsettled and very reactive and can't be trusted not to bite. Where would it be safe to re-home the dog? I'm not convinced that such a safe home exists.
OP it's very sad but you have given this dog five years life I think for safety reasons you have to put him to sleep.
I also think charities rehoming dogs from overseas shouldn't be allowed. There are enough unwanted and uncared dogs already in the UK already

margotrose · 09/01/2024 15:31

kitsuneghost · 09/01/2024 15:10

It astounds me the number of people that think because someone doesn't have children they want a reactive dog instead

Well, exactly.

Where are all these perfect homes with owners who are around most of the day, who are experienced with reactive dogs, who have secure gardens and who never have children visiting the home?

It's hard enough for rescues to re-home dogs without a bite history, let alone ones who have bitten small children. I think some people are living in cloud cuckoo land if they think this dog will just fall on its' feet in a nice loving home somewhere.

Isometimeswonder · 09/01/2024 15:31

What type of dog is it? This might impact on how easy it will be to rehome.

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