Does anyone fancy a puppy survival thread part 3

[BiteyShark]

Continuation of the support thread.... anyone is welcome whether they have new or older puppies, just want a chat or are battling with ongoing puppy problems.

I thought I would start this thread off as I am hoping it might be the last one I need support from as BiteyPup is now 9.5 months old and we have survived the early puppy months and his teenage antics seem to be subsiding. Still working on our relationship and recall but it's getting better and can finally see some light at the end of the tunnel (fingers crossed)

I've got to bath the bloody dog today

She reeks of pee

Oh no Soubriquet do you have an idea whether that's during the day or night? Night might be easier to rectify by waking her up for pees to stop the association

It's at night I think

She's a nightmare to get out at nighttime for a wee.
Just sits there looking sad and legs it back in as soon as the door opens

Yeah I sometimes used to have to get BiteyDog to walk a few steps in the garden which would trigger him to pee. After a while he used to either pee or if he didn't need to go he would sit down and look at me to say he wasn't ready.

Bloody dog bed disintegrated in the wash!

Only got it about a month ago from wilko....not got the receipt either

Hello, may I join in please?

Not been able to RTT (& it's about shut anyway!) so I'm really sorry in advance if I end up asking questions that have already been discussed!

We got Filipuppy on Thursday evening, he's a 12 week old bundle of fluff (apparently the official name is cockapoo) and super cute. Not got a clue what we are doing with him, so please don't shout at me for rookie errors...

Welcome Fillybuster don't worry about asking questions as that's what this thread is here for

The thread is almost coming up to the max. I think I need to bow out soon as BiteyDog is maturing into a lovely dog although I still plan to follow threads as it's so nice to see how everyone is doing. If this thread has been useful to the people with very young pups then maybe one of them could start another thread when it gets to 1000 posts.

Filly I was a complete clueless rookie in December. This isn't a shouting at each other kind of a thread! Lovely people.
Soubriquet nightmare. Madam wants to cuddle in the garden at bedtime. I have to walk her about on the lead and insist on wee wee. Lots. Not looking forward to a winter of that!

My house may drive me nuts at times but one thing it's good for is inclement weather dog toiliting Bluepuppy can happily go for a late night wee in the rain without getting wet.

Just a quick question about training. How much time a day would you give to training with an 11/12 week old pup. At the minute I probably for 3 or 4 five minute sessions each day for commands (we're only doing sit/lie down and leave it at the mo).

I feel like I should be doing more but between playing, house training, going out for a short journey in the car or a carry around pet shop, village etc (not finished all jabs yet) and getting him use to spending a few minutes alone in the kitchen there just doesn't seem anymore time in the day! He's pretty chilled out and has a fairly predictable routine of eat, play, poo, sleep but worried I'm not doing enough.

I probably should have done more training with mine but I work full time so I just had to fit it in when I could although the dog carer at daycare used to do training with him as well.

Personally a few mins a day formal training is all I did as you are effectively training them all the time in terms of toilet training, stopping the nipping, being calm when required etc.

I think that's it the whole day feels like training in someway at the minute and obviously trying to be a parents on occasion too!

Toilet training.
Going through a door nicely.
Not chewing me.
Not eating the house.
Travelling in the car.
Playing nicely with toys.
Accepting a collar and lead.
Handling of feet and ears and grooming etc etc.
it's all training! Feels never ending doesn't it!

Agreed that training happens all the time - teaching manners is so so important. Remember, if there's anything you wouldn't want an adult dog to do, don't let the puppy do it either. And if you don't want them to do something, you need to train them what they do need to do instead!

More help on dog in car needed. Tried Adaptil and a herbal remedy from the vet.
Pup is great in the car but older dog doesn't like it and stands on whoever is in the back. I think he doesn't like the noise of other cars passing or bumps on the road.

I've ordered a Thundershirt but we're going on a holiday at the weekend 3 hours away and then lots of days out.
Half a piriton has been suggested to me - anyone tried this?

Best where are each of the dogs? In the boot or on the back seat? Sorry no idea about piriton.

Covered crate? Wrap him in a blanket and cuddle him? Some background noise to drown out scary noises? Shades to hide scary things outside? Chewy toy?
What's he like when you don't move? Can you feed and treat in the non moving car and make it fun?
Wolfie pup was on piriton for itchiness. Not sure I would give it for travel but then she's a wolfhound and I was told it wasn't good for their heart!

They are in the back seat with us with harness on. Four of us in the car and boot is full of luggage including crate. There's no room to erect the crate.

I've done the feed and treat in non moving car and the blanket. We were coming back from a day trip to Tenby today and he was dog tired - literally - and would lie down for a minute but as soon as we passed another car he would be up, on my lap, standing. I might phone the vet tomorrow - she did suggest a tranquilliser - but I am loathe to spoil his fun when we arrive on days out. Next car will be an estate with crate in the back.

Not thought about blinds, he likes looking out of the window. It's the noise. Maybe I can get him noise cancelling headphones

Not sure whether this would work but when mine was a puppy, before he was big enough to go in the boot, I had a soft sided crate with mesh sides (rigid poles along the sides to keep its shape) which went on the back seat. Admittedly it was only secured by looping the straps over the back seat head rest so not crash proof safety standard but wondering if being in an enclosed space might be more calming for your older dog.

I have wondered about something like that. I'm not sure we'd gave room on this occasion but in the future it's definitely one to consider.

Best if he's fearful (rather than just overly interested in what's going on) then you need to be very careful with the use of tranquillisers. This article explains very well why some of the commonly used sedatives aren't appropriate for use in fearful dogs.

list covers some of the various products available for helping anxious dogs, including medications, supplements and things like Thundershirts. If the Thundershirt you've ordered might not arrive in time then if you can get hold of some elasticated bandages you can do a body wrap which should have a similar effect.

None of these things are likely to work miracles and really need to be used in conjunction with desensitisation/counter conditioning but obviously there's not a lot of time to do much of that before you go.

I'd also double check the type of harness you have. A lot of them are more for stopping dogs moving around than protecting either then or the other occupants of the car in the event of a collision/sudden stop. The Centre for Pet Safety in the US did a study a few years back on car harnesses for dogs and the results were pretty alarming. An Australian insurance company did the same with very similar results.

Brilliant post cornflake, thank you so much, I will check out the links.

Sorry, seems I buggered up the link to the list of products. Try this one.

So my little Lexa Lou is no longer a pup

We have her first season!

A bit of a silent season though. Her bits are all swollen but there's very little bloody

New thread here www.mumsnet.com/Talk/the_doghouse/3021708-Puppy-Survival-thread-part-4?watched=1 for anyone wishing to continue.