Puppy farm?

[fessmess]

Going to look at a puppy tomorrow after breeder put us off from last week (family illness) and now their advert on Pets4homes has changed. Two pups (11 weeks old) have disappeared from ad and now they're selling a different puppy 3 weeks younger! The photos of mum and dad are the same though. Would you be suspicious or is this normal?

[Ilovehedgehogs]

This is a puppy farm, look at the idiots defending and recommending it.

[Bubble2bubble]

Ffs how many different breeds have they got? That's horrific

[Ilovehedgehogs]

Look at their Facebook page, it's horrific. You can't tell people though, they don't care and couldn't give a shit about the conditions that the breeding bitches are kept in.

[Bubble2bubble]

£550 for a "zuchon" wtf
So people believe the mum of their pup spends her days in the lovely family garden so the owners can take cute pictures of puppies with the flowers......... yeah right --her and the other 100 breeding bitches-

That is one very slick operation.

[Wolfiefan]

Christmas puppies. WTF. And people think that's good and recommend them. Bloody hell.

[reallyanotherone]

Zuchon
Wauser
Morkie
Maltichon
Shorkie
Maltishi

Wtaf?

Do people realise these are completely made up words and not actual breeds?

[Bubble2bubble]

"100% licenced breeders"
I rest my case...

[ErrolTheDragon]

'Collection at christmas'

Most responsible breeders try to avoid having pups ready at Christmas nowadays don't they?

[Geretrude]

I must be thick because I can't even work out what those crosses are supposed to be.

People just don't care basically

[GinIsIn]

Our dog is a rescue. She was a puppy farmed Christmas designer dog pup - one of the ones on that list. She was bought for small children for Christmas, so no checks, no visits, no instructions, and by May they'd nearly killed her. Dumped her at Battersea with a cursory outline of "yeah, my kids and bored of this now". She had malnutrition, parvo, kennel cough, heamoragic gastritis, ulcerative colitis, every kind of infection you can think of, and such a matted coat it had made sores on her skin. That is the reality of puppy farming.

[Bubble2bubble]

From today's news:
www.thejournal.ie/dogs-rspca-seizure-holyhead-3083394-Nov2016/
Seizures are happening more often, but it's still a drop in the ocean. Demand for these pups is so high. :(

[Geretrude]

And today - two Frenchie pups found starving and dumped in a cardboard box :(

www.itv.com/news/wales/2016-11-15/two-bulldog-pups-found-abandoned-in-cardboard-box/

Please don't buy from Pets4Homes - this is what your money is funding

[Ilovehedgehogs]

I commented on the puppy farm website and all the screaming huns called me a troll.
They are deleting any comments that are not fawning now.

You can tell a lot about the intellect of the buyers on there.

[Bubble2bubble]

Maybe I will amuse myself by posting a few pertinate questions as well 😉

[Bubble2bubble]

Will try to look more intelligent by learning to spell pertinent first...

[reallyanotherone]

Have you seen the financial reports?

Been up and running 3 years and 2015 had 500k in cash and assets.

Wonder what will happen when they reach market saturation.

[Ilovehedgehogs]

I am on a closed group on Facebook and someone said that they are sending the pups out to people who present a fake family set up for viewers too.

I have also seen photos taken in secret of where the bitches are kept, it's bloody horrifying.
I have been banging on about this for years though on here (under various names) and I don't think that people care any more than they did prior to more publicity.

The poster who got banned from the dog house was someone who just got so frustrated from picking up the pieces and new puppy threads.
Someone was being really nasty about her the other day on here and it did occur to me that she did far more for the welfare of dogs than the critisizer did. Anyway, I digress.

[ErrolTheDragon]

Hedgehogs, I reckon its worth keeping on banging on because a lot of it really is ignorance, just not having thought about it. The OP of this thread has learnt, and the poster who did get a farmed pup also won't do it again. Thats good! And I would guess a theres a fair few lurkers (who probably don't quite dare post, 'whew, thanks for opening my eyes' for fear of judgement).

[Bubble2bubble]

Someone was banned for being harsh on puppy buyers? Didn't know that

Agree the message is just not getting though. I don't believe the market will saturate. Some people put more thought into where their baked beans come from than where their puppy does. And there will always be a new made up 'breed' that will become desirable. Frenchpoos and Pomshitz coming your way, watch this space.

[reallyanotherone]

Are they euthanising puppies that don't sell?

I can't see how you can breed on that scale and sell all the puppies- once they hit 12 weeks they won't be saleable any more.

[ErrolTheDragon]

I remember there was a very passionate poster (involved in rescues etc) who did after some warnings end up being banned - resulting in a couple of massive threads protesting the decision. IIRC (and this was quite a few years ago) I think MNHQ believed that her unsparingly forthright stance wasn't constructive and people didn't dare come to doghouse to ask questions. I don't think they took the decision lightly.

Finding the balance between despair (and frankly disgust for those - unlike the posters on this thread - who won't take advice/information be it on puppy farms or training or whatever) and polite and patient education isn't always easy.

[MrsderPunkt]

One of my friends talks about the puppy she 'rescued' from a puppy farm as she couldn't bear to leave it there, so she paid for it and took it home .....

[tabulahrasa]

There are rescues that take on the unsold ones.

Mostly because some places don't even euthanise them, they dispose of them by dumping them or killing them by less humane methods as the vet would charge them.

[ErrolTheDragon]

Are they euthanising puppies that don't sell?

Euthanasia is the practice of intentionally ending a life in order to relieve pain and suffering.

So no, I doubt they're 'euthanising' them. I suppose they kill or dump a lot of surplus (not to mention, unsaleably defective) stock.

[Bubble2bubble]

Thanks Errol I must have missed that.

really puppy farmers wouldn't need to euthanize any pups - the ones that don't sell can just be used for breeding in six months' time. Of course you can always lie about their ages, sell them as a pup that's been' returned because of allergies' etc