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A Man kicked my dog this morning

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ExitPursuedByABear · 03/12/2014 13:44

I was horrified! Yes, BastardDog is dog on dog aggressive, but it is all bark and no bite - (sound and fury signifying nothing).

I was marching up the canal towpath trying to keep warm, when my dog crouched down into 'play' position and I saw two big bouncy Munsterlanders approaching. Their owner was a long way behind. I see these dogs regularly and chat to both the man and woman who own them, on several occasions. I always call my boy back and put him on the lead until they are passed and have discussed with them the reasons why. Today I was concerned that I had seen them too late, but bless his soul, my boy came back when shouted so I put him on the lead and crossed over to the other side of the canal. As we passed I joked with the man that they would all have ended up in the lock if they had met and he said something about tossing a coin.

I carried on walking but a train went past and my dog likes to chase them. As I turned round I realised that the man had crossed over behind, so my dog ran into his dogs as he was chasing the train. They had a sniff then a fight broke out at which point the man started shouting "I'm not having this". I shouted my boy and he came back but went ahead of me. I walk with a stick so was trying to catch up with him to put him on the lead but the man kept on walking in the same direction, quicker than me and caught up just as I was about to put my dog on the lead and another fight broke out. At which point the man kicked my dog in the belly making him yelp in pain.

I asked him what he thought he was doing and he said he didn't want a vet's bill. Then he said that dogs will be dogs and it shouldn't affect our friendship. What fecking friendship? I marched off with him shouting after me that it shouldn't affect us. He then shouted that I had ruined a lovely day Confused.

Not sure why I am posting really. It just really upset me. I make every effort to avoid other dogs. I know he had every right to cross the canal and walk in the same direction, but I still don't think he needed to kick him.

Stupid bastard.

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ExitPursuedByABear · 03/12/2014 19:29

I can see for miles down the canal and always call him back, leash him or cross sides if I see another dog. If I see small children i always call him back and make him sit until they are past.

I don't want to antagonise anyone, but there is no way he is staying on a lead.

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BitOutOfPractice · 03/12/2014 19:53

How do you know that only small children might be afraid of your aggressive dog? I certainly would be. Lots of people on this thread have said they would be. I know he's your "boy" but why do you expect everyone else to love him / want to meet him / not be afraid of him? It's just so bloody selfish

FrauHelgaMissMarpleandaChuckle · 03/12/2014 19:56

I am not a small child and if he was barking and aggressively behaving in a "sound and fury" way at me or my dog I'd be terrified.

I didn't let my old dog off the lead AT ALL unless we were in an enclosed space (like a safe large garden/field) because his recall was shit.

DrewOB · 03/12/2014 20:00

I burst in tears if a dog runs towards me and have been known to have panic attacks. It would not end well

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ExitPursuedByABear · 03/12/2014 20:15

He is not aggressive with people.

He does not run up to people.

Shudder off.

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FrauHelgaMissMarpleandaChuckle · 03/12/2014 20:18

But Exit, he'd run up to me if I had the terrierist with me.

BitOutOfPractice · 03/12/2014 20:20

Why do you put him on a lead if you see small children then?

And I'll shudder away if that's all the same to you. He is a dog. Not a boy

BitOutOfPractice · 03/12/2014 20:22

Sorry, call him backand make him sit, not on a lead.

It must be because you know his "sound and fury" scares people. And his recall is not reliable

CarbeDiem · 03/12/2014 20:23

I appreciate you got a shock and that your dog got hurt but if I was walking my dog (a 12 week old ) and some dog made to attack her or was really aggressive then I'd kick it too. Albeit, I'd try not to injure it, more just to get it off/away, but I wouldn't hesitate (I'd probably cry after too).

I'm in the 'aggressive dogs shouldn't be off lead' camp.

Whoknowswhocares · 03/12/2014 20:24

Your recall sounds extremely suspect to me tbh. Recall should mean come and sit/stand directly beside me until I release you and allow you to move again. That is nowhere near what you describe and to allow your dog offlead in the presence of other dogs without that level of control when he is DA is highly irresponsible. Never mind allowing him to practise his prey/chase drive by chasing trains Shock
You need to work on his recall and once it has been properly established, allow him offlead ONLY when there are no other dogs anywhere in his or your vision.
Anything else and you are endangering him and others. I would also recommend you muzzle train him and walk him in that to stop other owners feeling they need to kick him to protect their own dogs if/when your vigilance slips. Another confrontation with a human hurting him and he may soon be scared/aggressive with people too!
You have been extremely lucky not to have a)caused injury to the other dogs and b)had him badly injured by the kicking or c)reported as dangerously out of control

tabulahrasa · 03/12/2014 20:28

If you're going to carry on as you are, knowing that occasionally slip ups are going to happen then you also have to accept that other owners are not going to react how you want them to when your dog causes a problem for them.

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ExitPursuedByABear · 03/12/2014 20:31
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EasyToEatTiger · 03/12/2014 20:35

You are not alone, Exit! Unfortunately shit happens. We have 3 dogs and often people run away when they see us coming. Our dogs are not interested in other people or dogs. I hope you are ok and well done for getting your recall!!!

Waltermittythesequel · 03/12/2014 20:40

You don't seem terribly bothered about your dog being aggressive tbh!

My dog has been attacked by an agressive dog on a walk. It was one of the worst experiences of my life!

He's afraid of his own shadow now.

I'm just saying; this man loves his dogs as much as you love your boy.

With respect, if you can't walk/run that fast to catch him up maybe you'd be better of walking him on the lead?

FrauHelgaMissMarpleandaChuckle · 03/12/2014 20:42

Ach I wouldn't even take Exit calling her dog her "boy" under my notice. I call mine my wee man, my superstar, my darling man, my baby - all sorts.

I sometimes even tell DD I prefer the dog to her and mean it

Don't pick holes for the sake of it.

BitOutOfPractice · 03/12/2014 20:43

It's quite obviou sExit that you consider that your right to let your dog run around off the lead, terrorising other dogs and terrifying other people trumps everyone else's right to quiet enjoyment of the canal. ie you don't give a shit.

As a result, other people, other dogs and your dog suffer. Go figure

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ExitPursuedByABear · 03/12/2014 20:45

I call him back when I see small children because I am aware, from here, that many small children get hysterical around dogs. I do not want them to be scared, by a dog, walking past them.

No. He doesn't run up to people with dogs.

I call him back if I see a dog.

This man surprised me by crossing the canal behind me.

Yes, I am a shit, and my dog is too.

Yes, he has an over developed chase instinct.

But I have never, ever known anything enjoy life so much.

awaits the next lot of sanctimony

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FrauHelgaMissMarpleandaChuckle · 03/12/2014 20:46

Exit nobody said you were a shit.

I'm guessing you got a fright as much as the man did

But you know, you need to rethink the way you walk your dog. Or the same thing might happen again.

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ExitPursuedByABear · 03/12/2014 20:49

Omg.

I made Active Convos!

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Whoknowswhocares · 03/12/2014 20:50

^^

How very mature. Hmm
You screwed up today and let your dog aggressively approach others, not once but twice, due to your lack of vigilance and control. You put him, the other dogs and the other owner at risk and instead of working out how you can prevent it happening again and kicking yourself for your actions, you blame the owner of the dogs who were attacked TWICE and have a pop at people who tell you your shortcomings?

EasyToEatTiger · 03/12/2014 20:51

PLEASE STOP! Stop being unkind. Few people on this thread have anything useful to add, apart from trying to start a fight. Exit had a horrible incident, takes responsibility for her part. Now people are making it up. STOP. YOU ARE BEING UNKIND.

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ExitPursuedByABear · 03/12/2014 20:51

Hilarious notion that me and the dog spend every day terrorising other dogs and people.

I think some perspective is called for.

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BitOutOfPractice · 03/12/2014 20:52

Nobody said you were a shit. Don't be ridiculous.

I said you didn't give a shit though because you see what you are doing as fine, even though it had serious repercussions for your dog today Sad

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ExitPursuedByABear · 03/12/2014 20:53

Easy. Are you a namechanger?

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Twooter · 03/12/2014 20:53

Well I think Exit is getting a hard time here. If I walk my dog near another dog that's unfriendly, I deliberately avoid following the unfriendly dog. I certainly wouldn't go out my way to follow it. Do you think the owner fancies you ?