Eek! We've made the decision to breed

[BrightlyColouredFish]

I'm excited and scared in equal measure.

[Owllady]

He lives under a rock in bikini bottom

[PatrickStarisabadbellend]

I live in ha housing in Chester. People are skint and I think they are breeding just to make ends meet.

[PatrickStarisabadbellend]

owl

[LtEveDallas]

In 2010 there were more than 13,000 springer spaniel births registered by the KC. In 2011 there were over 12,000 registered, in 2013 back up to more than 13,000.

Over 38,000 dogs in 3 years - and that's only the registered ones.

The RSPCA alone killed 32 dogs a day in 2011. That's almost 12,000 dead dogs. That doesn't include all the council run pounds that give 7 days before death...and 3 days in NI. Or the Rescues that arent no kill. Or the bastards that are stealing dogs to be used as bait and holding illegal dog fights.

Yes, there are breeds that are dying out. Yes, the breeding of those dogs can be excused - that is the only good reason to breed.

The UK does NOT need more Springers, or Cockers, or Labs, or Retrievers or fucking crossbreed mutts like the Labradoodle or Cockerpoo.

We should be more responsible. Until the rescues are empty breeding should STOP.

[YoureBeingASillyBilly]

"He lives under a rock in bikini bottom "

[PatrickStarisabadbellend]

The selling sites on facebook are full of unwanted dogs and people selling puppies.

I can bet that no checks are done. Anything could happen to those pups.
Where does it all end?

[PassAFist]

[Owllady]

It won't end unless more regulations to dog ownership are brought in imo
:(
We can't even send all the wankers to live in a pineapple under the sea
Sigh

[DontPutMeDownForCardio]

I do think mongrels are lovely. The two dogs we had growing up were amazing and were mongrels. I just realise there is a place for pedigree dogs as well, bred responsibly. If it wasn't for the allergy issue I would get a rescue dog.

[DontPutMeDownForCardio]

I do think mongrels are lovely. The two dogs we had growing up were amazing and were mongrels. I just realise there is a place for pedigree dogs as well, bred responsibly. If it wasn't for the allergy issue I would get a rescue dog.

[YoureBeingASillyBilly]

dontput you know there are pedigrees in rescue too right?

[70isaLimitNotaTarget]

I questioned why the OP was breeding to "improve the bloodline" when it should be a breeders job - y'know a proper registered breeder who has her dogs' best interests and that of the breed specifics at heart- not someone who has a dog and fancies breeding it.
And the breeder will take the responsibilty for the % of dogs who DON'T make the mark.

But the OP said to (not quoting this, I cannot be bothered looking back) my questioning this was "frankly stupid"

Hey Ho. I'll live.

[DontPutMeDownForCardio]

It's my step son who is affected and who would have to have a breed which wouldn't shed. So id be looking at a poodle or similar. But I'd be looking for something where the breeding of the dog was known to make sure it came from a line of non shedding dogs. I know there's plenty of pedigrees in rescue, my mum rescued a pedigree dog through breed rescue. It depends whether you specifically want a puppy or not. Personally I wouldn't because they're a huge responsibility but some people do.

[Owllady]

Oooo mating pet dogs for thick people

[sooperdooper]

I'm late coming back to this but I'm constantly stunned by people thinking that just because a dog is bred for a reason/blood line/predigree it's justification

My parents last dog was a rescue pure bred (would've been peidgree had we ever know) Labrador, beautiful dog who'd been dumped by the side of the road - we came to the conclusion he'd been bred as a stud dog, as there were known breeders in the area, but he had no interest whatsoever in female dogs, so was dumped

Our dog now was bred purely as a working dog, his 'blood line' is impeccable but had we not adopted him after is working life was done/he wasn't earning the money, he'd have been pts within weeks

My parents new dog, also a rescue, is also a working breed

[DontPutMeDownForCardio]

So sooper do you not agree with labradors being bred to be assistance dogs? They're widely known as friendly gregarious dogs who are intelligent and easy to train. That's the result of plenty of careful breeding to get dogs who can be used for a reason. Generally not from rescue. If you introduced a dog of a different breed then all of a suddenyou have an unknown quantity. Or sheepdogs who have been bred to herd. Get a collie cross with some terrier in it and suddenly you probably won't have a herding dog anymore. You might have something that wants to catch rats instead. I don't know how you could say a reason for breeding a specific dog for a job isn't justification.

[70isaLimitNotaTarget]

I'm not sure about now Cardio but years ago my parents were very involved with "Torch" (Guide Dogs) and actually adopted a retired dog themselves.
They had friends who puppy walked.
These labs came from known breeding stock, they didn't accept "a dog" from a private home (might be different now)
BUT every one of these puppies had a back-up plan. There were waiting lists for "failed" puppies and dogs who didn't qualify.

That's the huge difference with known breeders , respectable breeders who have the back up, and someone who has a vague plan of "people waiting"

[Ilovemydogandmydoglovesme]

Owllady you've made my day calling me a young'un.

[DontPutMeDownForCardio]

70, sooper said they said no dog breeding is justified-which of course I may have misunderstood.

I think the people we need to look at are the people who are directly allowing dogs to end up in rescue - feckless owners who don't do their research and find it what they are getting into - or those who just don't care. Micro Chipping should be a legal requirement from all breeders and breeders should have to be licensed. But the op isn't responsible for all those dogs in rescue. The people who left them there are. Op says she had good homes lined up for all the potential puppies, as with the guide dogs who don't make the grade. There isn't really too much difference between a labrador and a springer - they're both being bred for a job.

[LtEveDallas]

Over 35,000 Labrador Retrievers were registered in UK in 2013. That's almost 100 dogs born every single day

That's quite enough, don't you think?

[Owllady]

Guide dogs are cross bred now with retrievers

[Martorana]

The greatest con since bottled water- the marketing of mongrels. "Cockerpoo" my arse.

[Owllady]

I know, I always giggle at the so called designer mongrels dogs. All the ladies that lunch seem to have them