Eek! We've made the decision to breed

[BrightlyColouredFish]

I'm excited and scared in equal measure.

Good luck with the bitch BCF. I have a pedigree bitch bought from a chap who owns and works both parents. She's only a year old but if she turns out to be good at her job, stays sound and passes the health tests for her breed then in a few years I'll do as you have done and look for a sire to complement her type with the aim of maintaining and improving the breed. Then I'll go ahead and put her in pup if I have (working) homes lined up for the litter (great about the cancer sniffer home for your pup!!)

"Poor OP. I think there is plenty of nastiness on this thread "

Where?

Valuecrisps not all working dogs live in cages. Mine is currently asleep on my bed! Although he has just had a session at the dog groomers so he is lovely and clean and he smells of shampoo.

In the accusations that she must be doing it for financial gain for a start.

Interesting posts valuecrisps :)

I have a collie (pet) who I do agility training with and the thought that some people who agility train collies do not treat them as a pet, rather a tool, baffles me. It was nice to see so many pet collies competing in this year's crafts agility trials (including rescue dogs)

Sure we need working dogs but there has to acknowledgement that from that there is a waste product as valuecrisps explains :(

I think you are most probably younger ilovemydog ? All the working collies and jrt here on farms are kept chained in sheds/kennels. Some gundogs are too (I live pretty rural)

Someone I knos has trained a rescue Springer to fetch his shot pigeons, I am not sure what the technical term is. He is always covered in feathers. Him, not the dog

as far as I am aware any dog can be trained to detect cancer cells, so am pretty sure another litter of pups from a hobby breeder is not going to rid the world of cancer.

I was going to ask about that. Do better bloodlines make better cancer sniffer dogs?

I remember seeing a cancer detection dog in asda and I avoided it in case it sniffed me

"In the accusations that she must be doing it for financial gain for a start."

Do you mean the ONE post that mentions money?

"There really is no need to breed except financially gain for you.

Thousands of dogs are currently homeless or in pound with only 7 days before being put to sleep unless a rescue can find a home for one of their dogs and then rescue a pound dog.

Money for you could equal misery for the puppy and then death in a pound an this happens every day."

Or have i missed all the accusations somewhere?

That isn't the only post.

Where are there others?

Point 5 ...interesting

The argument is they harder to train if a rescue and you are always told this by someone who believes themselves to be the most amazing dog trainer,like EVA who has had a puppy from a breeder

owner of rescue collies

Owllady, check out point 2 from the link posted by Catsmamma:

Cancer Detection Dogs never detect cancer on a person but always by screening samples at our training centre.

Fabulous posts from Tolduso on this thread, I hope OP is reading and re-considering.

Regardless of the ethics of breeding, I wouldn't ever breed from my bitch. I have seen plenty of cases of bitches dying during labour and I would never forgive myself. If she is a much loved family let then leave her that way.

Just to say, I love that clip

I agree with you valuetoldusocrisps
I have much more respect for people who have dogs as family pets first, show/sport dogs second wrt crufts etc. My friend shows her dogs but they are pets :)
I can't watch the clip atm as I am in a noisy room

And I think my mum has aspirations that Molly and myself will end up on...
No, not crufts....
Britain's got talent :o she can't even dance