Eastenders...

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This is it, tomorrows the day when when it all comes out!!!!!

Oh well thats alright then...sakes...

In fact, i dont know why Im suprised, when a similar thing happened to me, it was all about my Mum, so Im not fucking suprised really.

I just know that if my daughter (who is 14) told me that I would be straight on her side, not thinking about me or him or what he didnt find attractive in me or any of that bollocks.

MoreSpam, if this has happened to you I can really understand why you find this so upsetting!

Im not saying they didnt do it well, not at all. But I am saying that I expected Bianca to be more caring about her "stepdaughter" even if she isnt blood, she has been raised as hers.

This is just TV - they read some stuff - they put together a story line. Have you talked to anyone about this?

I think she was caring actually - what a bloody shock it must have been to her, come on - and it is only a soap!!

obviously this has hit a nerve with you but to the majority of us I think it was very well done.

I do think it might be more a than a case of "hitting a nerve" here though. MoreSpam, do you want to talk about it? I have no experience but don't want to just leave you to it.....

I've just cried through that episode - ahem, pregnancy hormones.

She went through a process, at first she is told that they've been seeing each other and that's what she hears. It takes awhile for it to sink in what's actually been said to her. I get the impression that today's episode was real time and half an hour for someone to go from being in disbelief to calling the police and having him taken away is not bad really.

She was shouting at her in the end because Whitney couldn't see that he was in the wrong. She wouldn't have let Bianca give her a hug and tell her it was alright because she didn't see it like that. She needed to be told.

WRT weather, if it's anything like Corrie, they film outside on Monday and inside the rest of the week to make sure that they have continuity in weather, so while the inside shots were after him having a bucket thrown on him, the outside shots would be real weather.

I thought It was a brilliant episode, very well acted and completely believeable.

I would guess for a fair percentage of the population, if their 16 y/o s/d said they were in love and sleeping with your partner, it would take a while to actually work its way into right / real information rather than just being overwhelmed iyswim

Whitney said to Bianca that she & Tony were 'in love', not that he was abusing her

But surely, Lurker, the whole point is that Whitney is/was a child, and therefore should not have been taken advantage of? Not a question of whether her feelings were genuine?

I don't think that's what lurker meant, if I read it right. The first thing Bianca heard was that they were in love. She had to get her head past that and realise she wasn't lying first. Then at the end of the programme Whitney's still stating they were in love, Bianca couldn't just give her a hug and say it will ok because Whitney is still in the delusion.

yes Tinsel!

I thought it was very well acted

The hug or hold thing- I put that down to shock really; I suspect disbelief would be a pretty strong emoption there. Remember, the entire episode was 30 minutes; it could well take 30 minutes to get your head around that in real life. Especially as (had it been real- just keep emphasising it for my own sake!) threre would be a total awareness that her own life had collapsed, combined with the evne worse knowledge that her loss was totally insignificant in the grand scheme of things.

Plus the anger thing from Whitney of course.

I've worked with famillies where Dad has abused and Mum jst carries on as if nothing ahs ahppened- kid calls from foster care., mum is 'Oh do you ant to speak to yur dad'- and arranges 'secret' visits eventhough dad has admitted it.

I was pleae with how it was done, and that the word rape was used repeatedly.

Lurker/Tinsel Ok - this is not my area of expertise, so happy to go along...Is it just me that was worried about MoreSpam though....? And she hasn't been back....

I was a bit dissapointed to be honest. I can't help thinking that if you found out anyone had been having sex with a 12 yo you were treating as your daughter would react like that.......
Surely she should have beat him to an inch of his life????
Have only been watching the past 2 or 3 weeks though, Bianca's reaction just didn't seem to be fitting to me.

I hope morespam is OK, and if she looks at this considers getting help if she needs it.

More, I pray she doesn't need the help and just had a rant, I really hope thats the case but if not

now, littleboyblue, that is one thing I thought was very noticeable - I'm sure when Bianca was around the first time, there were scenes with Ricky being slapped around/ thumped by her; tonight's episode was verrry interesting (as well as all the other stuff) because she DIDN'T react with violence.
At one point she looked like she was starting to raise a hand to slap Whitney, but didn't; and then when she had her hand on Tony's face when asking him about Tiffany, I'm SURE in the old days she would have been alot more violent about it and slapped/thumped him.

They seem to have been very careful about not including any level of DV in this episode. Remember too, Biance decked a copper in her first reappearance so it's not like she's a totally reformed character!

Excellent episode and I thought Patsy did the whole "realisation of the true horror of the situation dawning slowly on her" really well.

Initially I thought that it was implied they'd been sleeping together just, and by the time she was told it was from when she was 12, the full situation had started to dawn.

Exactly, Bianca is not known for her ability to think before she acts, but not just her, anyones reaction to something like that. I agree that the whole realisation dawning on her was fantastic but it all seemed a bit 'too easy' iyswim, and the police turning up in just the nick of time? Not sure I'm convinced this was a reflection of true life tbh.

I am NO expert on this subject I must admit, but from books/articles I have read, it is not uncommon for family/friends to disbelieve children when they report this kind of abuse. I think it is just the shock/this kind of thing doesn't happen to us. etc

So say I leave my dd with my dad and she says that he's "hurt" her. My dd tends to over dramtise stuff. I dropped a coat hanger on her toe this morning and you'd think she'd been mortally wounded. So she told DH that I had hurt her.

You only have to go a bit further...DH "surely" would never hurt dd. My dad would "surely" never hurt dd. I believe this as an absolute truth. If dd told me that one of them had "hurt" her, what would my first thought honestly be?

How many things do you have to realise if this has been told to you?

It's true - easier to believe she's lying and I can imagine thinking "Please God let her be lying!"
He could hurt her
He can't really love me
He's used me to get at my kids
What about the other kids
She thinks it's real and I have to convince her it's not
I have to convince her she's been raped
He's a paedophile
He's raped my daughter

I'm sure we can continue this list! As each realisation happens another question and realisation comes in!

I don't think we can bring her character into it because nothing like this has happened to her before! It's one thing to be feisty when someone tells you off for letting your kid sit on a wall, but that doesn't say how you will react when you're told your fiance has been sleeping with your daughter for the last three years.

I'm sure that you would start imagining all those times they had been alone / when you'd walked in unannounced / remembering everything to see if you had missed signs as well

But surely you're first thought is that it is NOT true.

I mean YOUR of courae.