Big Brother ITV - Thread 2

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Link to thread 1:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/telly_addicts/5571337-big-brother-itv?page=1

Sorry @aquarius1234 for spamming up the last thread 😩

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I don’t think Pauline ‘lied’ or tried to gaslight anyone about using the term ‘microagression’; she just seemed caught up in clearing up the accusation re using that term about Rhianna. Johanne, however, did say something like they didn’t use that term, but even there I don’t think in the grand scheme this part of the conversation being made the focus is fair, when the more important ‘lie’ is that they’d called someone racist when they hadn’t.

And I say that as someone who doesn’t like Johanne.

Is it really valid though? What if somebody said theyd grown up only eating the choicest meats like Wagyu or top Sushi grade salmon? Should they be able to dictate that the rest of the house accomodate that just because thats what theyre accustomed to? Rhianna is surely accustomed to a higher grade of food than Pauline but seems fine eating ASDA own brand when necessary! And does Pauline ever eat out/ get a takeaway? Its not like most establishments use organic

It might seem innocuous but shes demanding a large quantity of expensive items that take up a big chunk of the luxury budget spending initially was it like £80-100 on coconut water and Yogurt and its not like thats all she's eating surely?

The shopping list seems to work because they make some form of communal meal as a whole or in their groups which makes it cheaper than everyone going for their own 3 meals a day singularly and that allows for some treats in a luxury budget.

What about if they fail a task and get a basic budget? It literally wont be possible for her to spend what she says she needs as basics and the rest get their food

I’d just lie to throw into the mix that they buy eyelashes on the shopping budget…

Obviously I don’t know if they buy the budget ones or the £15 a pack ones, though.

Is the coconut water organic? 🤔

Of course and thats valid but if we say theyre £10-15 that still pales in comparison to all the yogurt, coconut water and other stuff we dont know about ( for example Celery). Wasnt one thing like £5 and she wanted 15?!?!

And will the HM's demand this on a basic budget? Will she still demand organic? I guess we can only actually know if/when it happens

Not if they’re getting a pack each at £15.

I wish we could still see the live feed like you did in the early days. Not like the last few years which was mostly birdsong. Back then you really got to see the nuts and bolts of it all. like everything, no matter how bad it was. Loads of pissed up shenanigans and whatnots. I miss it.

I absolutely need Johanne to be voted for in a fake eviction. See the whole house slag her off and then have her come back and unleash #BBUK

Much as I hate Twitter I just read this and thought: yes! Fight Night (with Emma, Michelle, Victor et al from season 5) Part Deux.

But lets say theoretically its £100 each they would be spending £15 on themselves leaving £85 for food that is shared be it sweets or actual meals. Pauline would be spending say £80 on coconut water and yogurt then presumably more on other items as surely she doesnt exist on Coconut water, Yogurt and Celery alone when she potentially said she eats steak every day at home. Pauline is saying the organic stuff is solely hers. I doubt shes getting much organic stuff for proper meals for £20 thus eating into other HM budget.

I agree. Her face when she speaks at them, pure venom. Shes a nasty piece of work. I hope she goes, shes been horrible from day 1, telling Mille she was fat, Charlotte she was scared of her. Its always something. The dislike that many of them have for Yasmin and P is strange, definitely an undertone of something there.

100%

She 1000% came in there with an opinion of 'that lot are vile' and has stuck to it. Her face disgust me honestly

We've all had a colleague like Rochelle - vile and racist and takes pleasure in fighting Black women - and isolating women of other ethnicities

Sorry 😬

Pauline and Rochelle haven't helped themselves by denying saying Rihanna name, if they did

Imo P is vulnerable, and shite at fighting and Joanna wasn't honest, so that's gonna come back to bite P really

Where's Tiffany Pollard? She'd whip that house into shape!

Yasmin seemed to have good intentions in clarifying what exactly had been said but then approached P&J in a way she knew would inflame the situation.
Johanne is very odd in how she treated Charlotte when she was leaving, it was as if she despised her.

They call Joanna to the diary room but never reprimand her on her behaviour. I also really liked Charlotte.

Pauline and Johane are a pair of gaslighting liars. Yasmin is a shit stirrer and I think boredom must have lead her to do what she did, as it was always going to blow up as a result.

I would actually love BB to replay that whole conversation between Johane and Pauline. Rochelle didn't mishear that much of what was said. I don't think she is racist, possibly more ignorant and lives in a very mono cultural bubble.

Johane is easy to dislike, but Pauline has shown that she is just as dislikeable and I actually found her a bit threatening towards Rochelle. She is also cocky and full of herself, It's both cringeworthy and embarrassing. She must stay because of this though 😂 Plus I am loving the organic food and drink drama!!

Charlotte on her reason for leaving 'I don't have physical peace therefore I need mental peace'. 😥 I was sorry to see her go, another female down too.

Good news is that the ratings for BB have gone up a third so we may get another series next year!

Johanne and Rochelle are very similar imo both very easy to annoy and have exploding personalities.

The micro aggression I do think there has been by Rochelle but not in the circumstances they were implying in that chat.
There was a convo that Rochelle said that Johanne would be good a certain dance move but I really dont think she is racist but definitely ignorance.

The food I do think she spoke more harshly to Johanne then she would of with another housemate but again thats because they have that relationship now and they clash of each other.
Rochelle would of been annoyed with any house mate but it would of been more toned down because she doesnt have that previous beef with them.

Rochelle did get it wrong about what exactly they said about Rihanna but not what they said about her.

Its a shame beacuse if they wasnt so angry with each other they all could of lernt something.
(Im not saying that is Johannes or Pauline's job to educate) but sometimes people do not realise what they do or say can be hurtful and Rochelle seems to not have that social awareness but again I dont think its done out of spite.

I found it really strange that Johanne or Pauline didnt say goodbye to Charlotte.

But we only see a small simple of the 24 hours so we dont know if they said goodbye in private or what people say to each other or about each other.

They didnt show a spat that Tays said that happened (very strange) so who knows.

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I don't think the love island comment was about the relationship. More their attitudes, Jedward said they need to be more quirky. Chelsey and Rhianna's personality is very much like what you'd see on love island, all about standing around trying to be cool and look pretty, standing judging the others when they were dancing and saying it was cringe rather than getting involved in the fun. I think Jedwards advice was fair. No ones going to get far in BB acting the way they do. It is the more fun and quirky personalities that do well.

The fact that it is a micro aggression by Rochelle is a different issue completely and perhaps is accurate.
The point is that J and P have lied about bringing Rihanna’s name up and using the term micro aggression.
with the whole organic issue do they have access to any other food or just the fridge contents? If it is the latter then surely everyone should be able to access all the fridge contents while food is limited?
sam, rob and the dark haired ex policeman are not really contributing anything. I wish BB could try a task to make them contribute more.

I liked Charlotte, she seemed the most genuine in there.

Krispy Kremes must do an organic range

BB wants her to carry on as she is: they know it's great drama and viewing
They will try and find a way of giving her immunity this week, or portray P as the main baddie to get her evicted

And you are right they did lie, Rochelle misheard and Johanne and Pauline lied.
I really did like Pauline what happened? Did she feel left out and Johanne was the only person that felt like she wanted to have a friendship with?
Or is this the real Pauline we are seeing or could be a bit of both I suppose.

We need her in 100%