Anyone watching Channel 5's Under Suspicion Kate McCann?

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It was on last night

By whom?

I agree. The twins seem to be absolutely fine and have grown into adults seemingly more mentally healthy than a quarter of the teenage offspring on this website.

They hadn’t even been given arguido status by this point!

Yes, the McCanns have been very critical of the Portuguese police, that point is true. Though trampling all through the apartment with their friends if they believed it was a crime scene probably wasn’t ideal behaviour themselves. Neither was leaving a young child and two toddlers alone night after night.

I don't think you understand anything about child protection at all.

Lawyers
who keep an eye out
sorry should have been clear

I do.

But hey ho.

Then you will know that the assessment of the risk posed by the parents to their remaining children, was a complex process and would encompass a great deal more than thinking about how upset the twins would be if separated. I don't envy the social workers making those decisions. They repeatedly, consistently neglected their children and knowingly exposed them to risk. They put them in childcare all day and left them alone at night. And that's just for starters.

has anyone listened to James English’s podcast with the foreign detective Bernt Stellendar in 2024 . It’s mind blowing ! I’m in two minds about what really happened tbh

Thank you.

Are we now equating the use of holiday clubs with 'neglect'?

Best parents ever then?!

Why is it mind blowing?

I’ve no idea about the emotional wellbeing of the twins because I don’t know them. i do know that even if they’ve turned out to have done well academically, be well adjusted etc, it’s horrendously neglectful that as toddlers, they were left alone in an apartment at night

You are completely missing the point

I am not even sure what your point is. Also, you are missing the point. So what is it? The former or the latter?

It was not an unavoidable situation. I don't know how they live with the guilt.

I was left alone regularly from the age of 6, along with younger siblings, while my parents went out to the pub. Not while we were on holiday because we never went anywhere. Parental negligence has no class distinction. They may be firmly middle class, but the McCanns were neglectful, resulting in a nightmarish outcome.

I haven't watched the programme and have no plans to watch it.

Because of what he has divulged. I’m not going to get into a debate on the case but let’s just say his findings are interesting to say the least.

The sneery assertion that the parents are only middle class by profession. Implying of course that they are not really middle class at all. And this interpretation based on their accents which surely come from a council scheme. It’s offensive.

I did put the programme on this morning, listened to it in the background. When I watched I found it harrowing.

I didn't know, or maybe forgot, that Kate was advised to plead that Madeline died by accident and she disposed of the body. Did that really happen? What an outrage!

The police have to ask awful questions, I get that, and family are always questioned first but that struck me as a step too far.

My hope is that sufficient evidence can be found on that German chap; if he is the guilty party and prosecuted, they will at least have closure. The German police seem to believe he is the one but it's right that proper evidence, or a confession, is obtained so that there can be no doubt.

A terrible, terrible tragedy - and not the only one. Little Ben Needham's remains have never been found but it is believed he drowned. Not knowing must be dreadful.

McCann haters are absolutely demented and confuse their personal dislike of the parents, with what happened to their daughter. You don’t have to like somebody to empathise with their child being abducted. These threads are a disgrace.

Germany have strict double jeopardy laws so if he is acquitted at a trial for killing Madeline he is unlikely to be prosecuted and tried again for the same crime further on.

Yes. I worked for sunsail in the late 90’s and baby listening was the norm.

every half an hour we walked around listening at the door and contacted parents if a child was crying.

perfectly the norm at the time. Horrifying in the aftermath of this case a few years after I did this.

the parents just replicated the listening service in their kinds and they and Madeline paid the ultimate price.

Watching this now. The bloody Portuguese police are pissing me right off twisting all Kate's words 😬

If they'd been working class those babies would never have been left. Dinner would have been earlier with the children. Two middle class highly paid doctors were used to nannies and au-pairs and didn't want to miss out on boozing and dinner with mates. Childcare wasn't their priority .