Nadia - stop moaning and get a job.....

[mids2019]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-15628823/Nadiya-Hussain-attack-BBC-cancelled-difficult-conversations.html

I think this woman needs her to realise her star has fallen like a lot of minor celebs. She has had a good run and everything has did was tired. New cookery blood should be allowed a chance.

I thinks it's undignified to start accusing her erstwhile employers of racism.

Yes - Nigella Lawson is 'a cook' rather than 'a chef' but she's OK. I think Rick Stein wasn't a trained chef either though happy to be corrected - he's been on for decades!

Jamie Oliver worked at Carluccio's Neal St restaurant (where he met Gennaro) and the River Cafe - which did or does have a Michelin star.

Yeah I find that quite strange too. He’s certainly made himself a lot of money. I feel sorry for the staff that get laid off and the creditors that go unpaid when these restaurants keep falling like flies.

Rick Stein used to run nightclubs I think!

Yeah I think he attracted a new audience to food and cooking which is great. My young son loves him.

But they hired her for 10 years! So did they suddenly notice?

People who get through often offer something new. Whether it’s Jamie and being less high brow, or the bikers or Nadiya. I think she has had success due to offering something new.

It can be a benefit.

He did originally train in hotel management and was a commis chef for a while but his dad committed suicide and he left and went labouring in Australia.

It’s only as telling as you want it to be.

Plenty of people change direction after an initial career before deciding they’d like to follow the path they’d thought about years earlier.

Perhaps her husband has lost his job? Nadyia is worth quite a few millions. I’m pretty sure even if her husband had lost his job she’d earned enough over the years to keep them well afloat.

Whats wrong with you. Im not 'comparing her' to anyone. Im talking about the language used when we say someone is given opportunities and why we would describe them as such.

Dont be so ridiculous.

As an aside - sorry OP, a bit off the point - she taught me to use baking soda to crisp up roast potatoes, so I will forever love her for this tip!

And the only other person you could think of was an odious man who touched women against their will?

The point is that no one else had been described as being 'given opportunities' until after people objected to it being said about Nadiya.

They do, yes. But not many go from being a best selling author and TV star, to teaching assistant then a teacher (which was her plan).

Nobody knows how much she’s worth but she wouldn’t be the first person to have spent millions within a decade.

Nadiya , Jack Monroe and James Martin, I find them all to be very jarring. Too full of their own self-importance in my opinion.

Well no one would be would they, the thread is about her.

Yes Greg came to mind as I was talking about him earlier in the thread and he is the first person I thought of with an example of being 'given opportunities' So what.

I liked her on Bake Off , she came across so well , she’s had a good run though for so many years after winning 🥇 Bake Off .
I do feel any contestant on this show will have a limited time where they’re in the spotlight
While I do enjoy cookery shows on TV , I have a limit on how many I will watch .
Whereas I LOVED Kim Joy and I know for a fact she’s a lovely young woman .

Im not sure what Jack (not Jack) Monroe is doing in this discussion.

Gordon Ramsey for example, is grace personified.

Kim Joy was incredible.

I loved Raul as well actually, mainly because he was so miserable. We dont really value that in entertainment. Im not joking actually.

Now, I loved Chalky but you could never call him a 'lovely' dog 😁

Even good chefs have their bad times and well as their good

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48352026

From what I remember (I will stand corrected) he owed his creditors £84 million, question is how did they let it get so high?

That's how the cookies crumble (sorry for the pun)

Yes , he actually made me laugh 😂

😂

That's daft.

Everyone's career is a mixture of luck and work and opportunities, surely?

There is absolutely no-one who trains themselves up as a TV personality. It's not a career path that exists in that sense. Everyone you see presenting on TV has capitalised on their previous experience (whatever it may be).

"Jamie Oliver is a home cook..."

Jamie Oliver worked as a sous chef at the River Cafe, an Italian restaurant in London. When Jamie was working there it was awarded a Michelin star (which it still has to this day).

So, I think it's likely that he learnt how to be a bit more than a "home cook".

In contrast to that though, he did say that one of his inspirations was somebody without any formal training at all - Keith Floyd.

You may remember him from his various cooking shows in the 1980s and 1990s.

Some of his shows are still on BBC iplayer, such as his 1987 series 'Floyd on France'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b03j5hgr/floyd-on-france-1-provence