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thankgoditssaturday · 01/11/2025 14:02

It’s quite fascinating how bad celebrities are at this. Is it because they are self obsessed and can’t divert their attention to working out others motives?

fluffiphlox · 01/11/2025 14:06

I’ve enjoyed watching Joe M. I think he’s just enjoying himself and entering into the spirit of the game.

StrongLikeMamma · 01/11/2025 14:16

thankgoditssaturday · 01/11/2025 13:47

Jo deserves to win as he’s been the most accurate about the Traitors.

Joe is the standout contestant! Love him.

BreadandCircus · 01/11/2025 14:31

thankgoditssaturday · 01/11/2025 14:02

It’s quite fascinating how bad celebrities are at this. Is it because they are self obsessed and can’t divert their attention to working out others motives?

No, I think it’s partly that many of them know one another professionally and/or socially, and it makes them a bit more softly softly. As Alan said to Celia ‘You can’t keep giving people compliments and then voting to banish them!’

There’s also apparently a level of baked-in deference to people’s perceived status. It was interesting, for instance (I’m not British and have never watched the JR show for instance, though I know who he is) to see that JR knew what age Charlotte Church had been when she first got famous, and that Paloma had been a ghost train ghost, because he’d interviewed both. He helped create a lot of careers, presumably. And was visibly very relaxed under scrutiny, which disarmed people’s suspicions.

So I think there’s also that. Many of the people on the show are used to dealing with attention, positive and negative, and are less self-conscious under scrutiny. If you’re an actor used to auditions, disastrous table reads and rehearsals where you look like a fool and know everyone thinks you’re miscast, and dealing with stage fright, then you’re less likely to fall apart at the round table when someone accuses you of being a traitor.

All of which I think makes them faithfuls’ job harder.

PinkMagpie · 01/11/2025 18:25

In the civilian version they are playing to win money that would be life changing for them. That is not the case on the celeb version.

Also, this will not be a career-making opportunity for most of them. In fact, for people like Stephen, Jonathan etc it is more likely they could do detriment to their careers if they do something the public doesn’t like. So Stephen did pick up on Cat needing naps in the day, but once she countered with her neurodivergence as a reason for that, Stephen dropped it immediately. He could see the career landmine ahead of him if he went hard on a young neurodiverse woman

SmallAngryPenguinWoman · 01/11/2025 18:31

@CarefulN0w thanks for the new thread!

Can't wait for the final!

Tiswa · 01/11/2025 18:38

Yes I think the celebrity version is very much a game - almost I think like they are at a dinner party playing it and ultimately if the traitors do win it doesn’t make that difference in terms of the money going to a charity

so for them it is very much about winning and or getting something right you could see that in the unblocked interviews when they guessed at least one traitor correctly

CarefulN0w · 01/11/2025 19:04

Thank goodness we’re all back together again. That’ll teach me to add a thread too early.

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NCTDN · 01/11/2025 21:55

I also want Nick to win.

SaratogaFilly · 01/11/2025 22:17

xsquared · 31/10/2025 13:54

I don't mind who wins as long as it's not David. He should have been banished ages ago.

If he hogs the round table again, in the next banishment just as Nick or Joe go for Alan, then he'll have done the work for the traitors yet again!

Cat and Alan literally sat back, not saying a word, and laughing at him and Kate when they went for each other.

This! Totally agree!

WestwardHo1 · 01/11/2025 22:56

Tiswa · 01/11/2025 13:43

I think that was within the norms of a normal average reaction though to the stress of that task I think quite a few would act in the same way 5 different people telling you things can be a hindrance rather than a help!

I think sometimes posters on MN hold people to impossible standards or behaviour. Joe was rattled and snapped just like most people do at times. Imagine it you were his size and trying to wind yourself round those laser beams knowing that one miniscule movement could mean the task failed, and everyone shouting conflicting advice at you. I know for a fact I'd yell "Would you all shut the fuck up".

The people in these posters' lives must all be remarkable even tempered individuals who never snap, never raise their voice, never get frustrated given their disquiet when they see or hear of someone else doing it. Particular a large man.

CeliaFarts · 01/11/2025 22:59

I’m not Joe M’s biggest fan but I did have sympathy for him snapping in the laser task. I know the others were trying to be helpful but I’d have snapped as well.

barskits · 01/11/2025 23:18

Tiswa · 01/11/2025 13:43

I think that was within the norms of a normal average reaction though to the stress of that task I think quite a few would act in the same way 5 different people telling you things can be a hindrance rather than a help!

Yes, and he'd already said he was worried about how the heck he was going to do the task because he's 5 times the size of everyone else! When you're trying to do something tricky, the last thing you need is several people all shouting instructions at you at once.😂

matresense · 01/11/2025 23:50

I LOVE Joe. I think he is really funny, his comebacks and his facial expressions are great. Yes, he has a more aggressive energy, but in my view, he’s never used his size to intimidate or been overtly agressive, he’s just a big bloke who wants to play the game hard. He’d be one of the softer choices in the civilian version - I mean, Leanne, Wilf, the comedian lady, so much shouting and pointing. I think that the fact that he has built alliances with quieter more relaxed people speaks to him being a good bloke to hang out with and people probably need to remember that there’s a good 95 per cent of footage that won’t be used.

I think he deserves to win, with Nick. I think without Joe it would have been such a luvvie series it would have been totally unbearable and they probably wouldn’t have caught anyone!

matresense · 01/11/2025 23:51

And yes, David is the undeserving finalist this year. there’s always one - quirk of the game!

LindorDoubleChoc · 02/11/2025 00:00

I wish Alan could win but I fear it's not going to happen. But he's been brilliant throughout, such good value.

Kate got very arsey with David at the round table for putting her name forward and trying to persuade the others to vote the same way. Eh Kate? what did you think the round table was about? In the end I think people voted for her to stop her whinging.

But Alan and Cat really should have protected Kate and tried to keep her in - it's just so glaringly obvious that Cat is a traitor now, surely someone is going to mention the sexes combination some time soon?

Joe Marler best traitor hunter ever? Someone's having a laugh! Anyone could reach the same conclusions with that tiny group that's left.

I will be gutted if the traitors don't win, I almost can't bear to watch next week now.

CeliaFarts · 02/11/2025 00:03

matresense · 01/11/2025 23:51

And yes, David is the undeserving finalist this year. there’s always one - quirk of the game!

Yes, I’d have preferred to see Joe W make it to the final - although then the Traitors would have had no chance.

LindorDoubleChoc · 02/11/2025 01:06

I did think it was quite fortunate Celia had gone because how would she be able to participate in that laser game?

CeliaFarts · 02/11/2025 01:10

LindorDoubleChoc · 02/11/2025 01:06

I did think it was quite fortunate Celia had gone because how would she be able to participate in that laser game?

She’s tiny and doesn’t seem to have particular mobility difficulties so she might have found it easier than Joe.

Maggiethecat · 02/11/2025 01:20

Love Joe M. He’s different to Nick but both are very determined to sniff out the traitors in a way that some of the others failed miserably at.

Maggiethecat · 02/11/2025 01:21

And I have a new expression in ‘Hundy’😆

FrodoBiggins · 02/11/2025 01:45

CeliaFarts · 02/11/2025 01:10

She’s tiny and doesn’t seem to have particular mobility difficulties so she might have found it easier than Joe.

Yep she's about the same age as my DM who would have been better than most of them at it!

bluevalley · 02/11/2025 02:48

LindorDoubleChoc · 02/11/2025 01:06

I did think it was quite fortunate Celia had gone because how would she be able to participate in that laser game?

She's 73, not 102!

IAmKerplunk · 02/11/2025 03:50

Just watched Joe on last weeks The Wheel and I like him. His persona is quite gruff and deadpan but I thought he came across funny and kind

Choux · 02/11/2025 07:26

BreadandCircus · 31/10/2025 08:28

It is an excellent username, though. You don’t often get Swift references on Mn.

Is that Taylor Swift or Jonathan Swift? The username is @CeliaFarts

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