MAFS #12 NO SPOILERS. The mugs are getting muggier whilst farting dogs keep blindsighting us. Accountability is yet to be taken, and backs are not being had. The same old arguments are on repeat, self-relfection accountability and thrush galore.

[dillite]

Save us. Please.

Ok seems I'm one ep behind but Grace and ash... I can really relate to Grace. I did this arguing to make things correct thing so much with previous partners and it's only because i liked them and wanted them to be perfect and due to those previous ones there were some things I didn't want to stand for. And like her I didn't see at the time when to pick my battles. I wanted them to come back and argue the point simply, precisely and logically each and every time, none of this bla general 'you're attacking my entire existence' stuff. Yes the last one couldn't take it but I did it to my current husband and he engaged with it when I wasn't picking an objectively ridiculous battle, is great now, and very much himself as ever, just better. I didn't want to change his personality just certain behaviours, or I just wanted him to know how I found certain things and be aware I'd be likely to have a problem with them (not so that he would necessarily stop just so he could be mindful and know when to push boundaries or not). I have an autism diagnosis if that's relevant. And I like ash. Don't see it working between them though he's too much of a 'normal' I.e. much as he's clearly trying he does seem to care a great deal about social acceptance and standards of 'normality'. Not wrong just different.

Feel like that was probably far too deep haha. Looking forward to this next episode!

Agree with this. Leigh's boundaries are completely normal in my eyes. You wouldn't accept a bloke flirting with other women, why would you just because your partner is a woman. Leah is really annoying and superficial while pretending not to be. Considering she put up with crap at the start and now has zero chemistry with Leigh, I can only think that she's just there for the exposure. Also flirting with leisha who is both not the sharpest tool in the box and clearly not into women just looks a bit desperate and like she wants to piss Leigh off which is not very nice. Also, her face doesn't move so it's hard to tell what she's thinking anyway.

.. enters the thread with a distracting observation. I can’t get over the amount of time the women play with their hair - flicking it, moving it around, running their fingers through it.
Do people do this in real life?

@drinkstoomuchwine yes I thought this! It’s not just MAFS though. All the crap reality shows have women constantly playing with their hair. Is it to keep it in a certain way so the extensions can’t be seen? It really irritates me. My dd18 doesn’t do it but my dil25 does though to a lesser extent than I see on tv. That’s another reason I like Grace 🤣 she just shoved her hair up or leaves it down and natural.

I wonder if Leah's face not moving makes it harder for Leigh to trust her? I find Leah very hard to read.

She has one facial expression. I can't tell if either of the Ls like each other. They keep saying how it is definitely more than friends and yet there is still zero affection between them.

I think they're stuck in a weird limbo that only exists on reality TV.

Also is anger & jealousy, when one of them flirts with other women, really positive & the only proof Leigh has, that she therefore must have feelings for her? No oh I love her sense of humour or we just get each other. But the fact I felt a negative emotion when they did something negative to me must be evidence that I do indeed have an emotion about them. They talk about their relationship like robots & Leigh’s face (like a slapped arse) & Leah’s frozen blank face don’t help either.

They're not sniping at each other as much as they used to. That's it. Not a great basis for a relationship.

Ooh i’ve just seen that the episode for Sunday that was on the app the other day, was accidentally uploaded!!

I’m waiting until Sunday to watch it, but apparently it wasn’t supposed to be on there!

Things got very awks last night 😂

It’s the one called Aileen: Queen of Serial Killers

Think it’s been on there for a couple of weeks but I’ve only just gotten around to watching it.

I just add stuff to ‘My List’ to watch and then if something comes up that isn’t on there I know I haven’t watched it.

I’ve watched most of Netflix’s catalog of serial killer and true crime stuff though. And Disney+. And Amazon Prime. And Discovery’s. And Now TV……🤣🤣

I literally can’t believe they were with that title. Queen of just sounds so disrespectful to her victims

I watched it straight after watching the accidental release of Sunday's ep. Far more interesting! Was shot in an interesting way but is a sadly predictable story.

I went down a rabbit hole into Korean true crime and ended up watching a load of K-drama's last year!

Men will do a lot if they think there's a shag in it for them. As another poster put it, his is the type of misogyny that gets overlooked with its 'cruel playful bantz'...

I think he looks like an acorn.

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Ash is Birdperson from Rick and Morty to me. I don't know why, maybe the monotone explanations, eyebrows...dunno.

It's like Grace needs a human resources department rep with her at all times to approve everything Ash says.

Nelly is very possessive over 'their' fridge isn't she?

It reminded me of Ross and his sandwich.

Is there a MAFS Come Dine With Me every night of next week? I thought I saw something on Instagram but now can't find the post...

Not sure when it’s on but looks funny a MAfs / Come Dine mash up! Think was a better cast last year so can’t imagine I’d feel the same about this lot.

Some say the only reason any men get married is because they think it’s a lifetime guarantee of a shag.
Having said that, Ash is not hideous and has a proper job. If all he wanted was a shag, it feels hard to believe MAFS was his only option. Why put yourself through all that just for a shag? (Whereas for someone like Dean, you can see why they’d be desperate enough to need to.)

As I've said before, I think Ash and Grace are one of the few couples who are actually on this for the right reasons. They're just very badly suited.