Celeb Traitors #5: Cloak and Dagger Chat. Trust no one.

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Who will survive another round table and who will be murdered next. Come and chat and speculate here.

JR gives me narcissist vibes but he’s quite attractive.

I agree that Alan gets bitchy and Mean Girls quite easily, but he’s the most entertaining by far. He’s witty and has a way with words.

I don’t really want Joe to win. He’s too aggressive.

None of the others are particularly entertaining.

I feel a bit sorry for Cat. People always feel a lot more personally betrayed by finding out the women are traitors.

I don’t find Joe at all aggressive. He seems quite straightforward to me, but I know a lot of pro rugby players, and they’re pretty straightforward types. He seems fairly typical. Not going to win prizes for subtlety, but his career involved being large and putting his body on the line. No subtlety needed.

Yes, Alan is much the most entertaining (though I’m kind of enjoying the Joe-Nick alliance, and enjoyed the two Joes), but he is also genuinely bitchy, which grates after a while. Kate has been poor TV, as she acknowledges herself, apart from some very nice blowdries. Cat is dull. Celia is doing Impish Grande Dame. David sounds intelligent and has excellent hair, but in fact is consistently, thoughtfully wrong. I will miss JR’s outfits.

It is only a saying at all because Shakespeare wrote it. It's one of the most famous lines from one of his most famous plays.

I think Cat probably deserves to win. She’s played well.

I agree. I can't stand cat.

I really like the Cat, Alan partnership and I don’t think I would support either of them as a singleton. They are such different personalities that they make a great team. I will be gutted if either of them vote for one another.

are there only two more episodes left now? So only one more round table?

Really enjoyed hearing Jonathan ‘superfan’s thoughts on Uncloaked.
I think he was being modest about the Big Dog thing though, as given the starting list, many people would have picked him and Stephen as the biggest (most well known across the board) signings.

If Alan was smart he would make Cat do the murder. She’s shown she’ll betray him as soon as she has to. He doesn’t owe her anything and doing it himself - again - is risky.

Also, they are the oldest, apart from Celia cos obvs, women don't count!

I quite like his self-awareness re the patriarchy too. I like Cat but agree she hasn't been the best value sleb for entertainment.

I’d love this to be true but I don’t think so.

Grr, producers can't help themselves and always have to interfere near the end! What a silly mission, it really puts the traitors on the back foot when they were already losing ground with fewer overall players. Also, we've already had a murder in plain sight. This is all very convoluted and seems designed purely to get Alan out and Cat through.

Wossy was very good, I thought. Played the game in the spirit it was intended and left on a high.

Yes but it's from a Shakespeare play. She didn't even recognise the names of some of Britain's greatest actors earlier.

I will be gutted if they murder Celia, I love her! I love Nick too.

They can take any of the others!

Isn't there a game called wink murder? Might she not be alluding to that?

I do think two murders in plain sight is too much. Unfair.

Kate can't steal from Nick,, unless she becomes a last minute recruited traitor. Where there's only Faithful at the end, they share the prize money. She might go though as there's a bit of suspicion on her.

What's with all the chat with the "big dog" theory being nonsense? Theories are all the Faithful have to gone on in this game. That theory was that either Jonathan Ross or Stephen Fry was Traitor and the other left to be the leader of the Faithful.

Turned out to be a decent theory considering Jonathan was a Traitor and Stephen was seen as leader by the Faithful. Also, sounds like from Jonathan's bit of damage control for his image on Uncloaked he thought he was seen as leader of the Traitors.

Is it Jonathan fans or Joe haters that feel it was a ridiculous theory?

It might have been more interesting earlier on, rather than having the murder in plain sight booked all the murders.

The Traitors have every advantage in the game, that being the concept behind it. So a few tasks which make it difficult for just them isn't a bad thing.

Though i like seeing Traitors caught- well the smug ones i do. I like both Alan and Cat as Traitors, so would like them to get away with it, but hink Alan's toast regardless.

There wont be a recruitment now, it’s too late.

I could be wrong, but I think this is the first series to not have recruitment.
Thanks to how useless the Faithful are. They really do not deserve to win, any of them.

i do hope he doesnt toast Celia, she deserves to go far

I must say that I love this series . I haven’t watched any of the previous Traitor series so wasn’t sure what to expect
I think that all the traitors were brilliant
I don’t get some of the discourse about Cat not doing the in plain sight murder , some are implying that she is effectively throwing Alan under the bus
The truth is that if she used the phrase others would notice . Don’t forget , Cat doesn’t even know who Judi Dench is and she is not flamboyant like Alan
She played the game like she was supposed to . It seems that women are judged more harshly on this show ..
The programme is called Traitors for a reason,

I thought that last night seemed a bit staged. Suddenly Cat voted for JR. No one suspects her yet she's hardly ever voiced an opinion.

Yes it was quite clever that she jumped on that theory when it first came about quite early on, throwing Jonathan’s name out there. The fact she’s still holding on to it sounds very convincing and authentic and people will be unlikely to guess she aimed suspicion at a fellow Traitor so early on! She’s playing it well!