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ArtTheClownIsNotAMime · 21/10/2025 17:25

They cut to Harry's wife in the audience just before Shirley made that comment.

Bluffinwithmymuffin · 21/10/2025 17:27

I can’t abide Fight For This Love, it’s just dire. And a CC to boot. Vicky’s been good so far, but if this turns out to be a contemperwaft/lyrical hybrid laced with Cheryl inspired moves and lots of refs to Geordieism and making Newcastle proud, this could be Vicky’s downfall.

LittleBitofBread · 21/10/2025 17:43

Thanks Holluschickie and ArtTheClown. I missed the cut.
It's very inappropriate of Shirley and Motsi. I mean, talk about the chemistry, sure – it's important in a dance like rumba – but there are ways to talk about it professionally.

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 21/10/2025 18:01

@Bluffinwithmymuffin I thought she might do Parachute which is, at least, a better song

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Bluffinwithmymuffin · 21/10/2025 18:10

@EineReiseDurchDieZeit I agree

ChessieFL · 21/10/2025 18:15

Usher is an icon?!

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 21/10/2025 18:23

Should I do another thread?!

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Kreepture · 21/10/2025 18:26

ChessieFL · 21/10/2025 18:15

Usher is an icon?!

Can we not do this again this year. Yes. Usher is an Icon, he is considered one of the most important artists for modern R&B.

Just because you don't like his music/don't rate the genre, doesn't mean he isn't an Icon.

Some reading material for your ignorance.

"Usher was named the Hot 100 Artist of the 2000s by Billboard stating "Usher's sexy brand of R&B dominated the last decade with the top-selling album and more No. 1s than any other act", with Confessions selling 20 million copies worldwide as the top solo album.

Often cited as an "icon" Los Angeles Times critic Randall Roberts marks dance singles "Yeah!", "Caught Up" and "OMG" to have influenced contemporary dance-pop, stating the former two also "helped define the [20]00s". Time magazine's pop stardom ranking metric, ranked Usher 3rd in history, based on "all-time chart performance and contemporary significance". Rolling Stone magazine named "Confessions Part II" the greatest R&B song of the 21st century"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usher_(musician)#Legacy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usher_(musician)#Achievements

"Usher amassed nine number-one and eighteen top-ten singles on the Billboard Hot 100, and accumulated 47 weeks at the top, more than any other male solo artist at the time. He spent 28 weeks at number-one in 2004 alone, marking a then-record for most cumulative weeks spent atop in a calendar year on the Hot 100 of all time."OMG" made him the first 2010s artist to collect number-one singles in three consecutive decades (1990s, 2000s, 2010s).He became the fifth artist of all-time to achieve that feat, following Stevie Wonder, Michael Jackson, Janet Jackson, and Madonna, and became the third male soloist in history to have at least one number-one single from five consecutive studio albums."

Usher (musician) - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usher_(musician)#Achievements

ChessieFL · 21/10/2025 18:55

@Kreepture please don’t be so rude and call me ignorant just because you disagree with my opinion. To me an icon is someone who has had a decades long career. I don’t like Dolly Parton’s music either or know much about her genre but I don’t dispute that she is an icon based on how long her career has lasted.

I don’t think Beyoncé, Cheryl Cole, Harry Styles or Ariana Grande should be on the list either. They may all become icons in the future if their careers persist. They’re not there yet in my opinion.

Simonjt · 21/10/2025 18:57

To be fair Ushers career has so far spanned three decades

Kreepture · 21/10/2025 19:03

ChessieFL · 21/10/2025 18:55

@Kreepture please don’t be so rude and call me ignorant just because you disagree with my opinion. To me an icon is someone who has had a decades long career. I don’t like Dolly Parton’s music either or know much about her genre but I don’t dispute that she is an icon based on how long her career has lasted.

I don’t think Beyoncé, Cheryl Cole, Harry Styles or Ariana Grande should be on the list either. They may all become icons in the future if their careers persist. They’re not there yet in my opinion.

He's been going since the 90s.. started in 1991 to be exact, had his first UK no1 in 1997.. how long do they have to work and have an active, high level career before it counts? Did you miss the part where it states he's had No1s across 3 decades?

ChessieFL · 21/10/2025 19:05

Yes I can read thanks. Still don’t think he’s an icon but let’s just agree to disagree.

Kreepture · 21/10/2025 19:06

ChessieFL · 21/10/2025 19:05

Yes I can read thanks. Still don’t think he’s an icon but let’s just agree to disagree.

You don't get to decide if he is or isn't, that's the point, the music industry thinks he is.

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kazzaD66 · 21/10/2025 19:42

Oh, ffs!!! Back off!!

NoCommentingFromNowOn · 21/10/2025 20:06

Coffeeishot · 21/10/2025 17:00

Huge gay icon to be fair so I can see why La voix has her.

Kylie is a gay icon too, and now I’m wondering what makes someone a gay icon? Do all gay people like the same music? Obviously not, so what is it? There must be a reason.

I’ll be pondering this now instead of getting on with cooking.

Coffeeishot · 21/10/2025 20:54

NoCommentingFromNowOn · 21/10/2025 20:06

Kylie is a gay icon too, and now I’m wondering what makes someone a gay icon? Do all gay people like the same music? Obviously not, so what is it? There must be a reason.

I’ll be pondering this now instead of getting on with cooking.

Oh I don't know What makes a gay icon im sure not every gay man loves cher 😀

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 21/10/2025 20:58

ChessieFL · 21/10/2025 18:15

Usher is an icon?!

I've never heard of him.

Thmssngvwlsrnd · 22/10/2025 07:14

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 21/10/2025 20:58

I've never heard of him.

Shhh! The lady from the Usher fan club will be along to tell you off in a minute..

Needtosoundoffandbreathe · 22/10/2025 07:33

Simonjt · 21/10/2025 18:57

To be fair Ushers career has so far spanned three decades

Is he still going? Hadn't heard anything from him for well over a decade.

JoeMarlerseyes · 22/10/2025 08:09

how has someone not heard of Usher? genuinely puzzled.
I don't know his music but have heard of him.

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 22/10/2025 10:30

JoeMarlerseyes · 22/10/2025 08:09

how has someone not heard of Usher? genuinely puzzled.
I don't know his music but have heard of him.

Is he a pop singer? I don't listen to that.

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 22/10/2025 10:30

Thmssngvwlsrnd · 22/10/2025 07:14

Shhh! The lady from the Usher fan club will be along to tell you off in a minute..

Oops.
🤣

Mokel · 22/10/2025 10:34

Needtosoundoffandbreathe · 22/10/2025 07:33

Is he still going? Hadn't heard anything from him for well over a decade.

He had a large gap between his last album released last year and the previous one.

Kreepture · 22/10/2025 13:04

Thmssngvwlsrnd · 22/10/2025 07:14

Shhh! The lady from the Usher fan club will be along to tell you off in a minute..

i'm not his fan club, i don't actually like his music.. but the same thing happened last year with Bruno Mars with people going "But he isn't an Icon." and others the year before because of ignorance over their history and impact globally of the artists who's music is being used.

My point, which people seem to be struggling with, is just because you haven't heard of them/don't like them/their music, or aren't aware of just how big they within their genre on the world stage, doesn't mean they aren't an Icon

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