Celeb Traitors #2. Who will blink first under Claudia’s stare, will Alan crack under pressure and how good does Mark Bonnar look in a kilt?

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And who will be the first to be banished from the table?

I have an intense dislike of Jonathan Ross as I can’t forget his cruel treatment of Andrew Sachs when he was best buddies with Russell Brand.

His eyes were ice cold when Clare and Ruth wouldn’t back down over the conversation in the car, very telling.

I like Ruth as she’s actually playing the game not trying to protect her image like so many of them. What’s the point of Lucy, David, even Nick who I thought would be good value is rarely heard. That’s why I liked Tom with his eye rolling.

Also, what’s their motivation as the prize fund goes to charity and whatever happens they still get paid? Not like the non celebs who fight it out so they can buy a house. I think that is what’s lacking here, none of the celebs seem to care that much.

I like Ruth too. She's had so much stick for saying 'too much', whereas Lucy has been criticised for being too quiet!

Hard to please!

I think on the whole they're a really likeable bunch! Alan is hilarious 😂

I'd rather have seen Team Balding v Team Imrie 😜

Since when did Jonathan Ross and Stephen Fry become 'dominant males'?

I suspect that Ruth will be too obvious a murder this evening. Unfortunately, I think it will be David who I really enjoy as a presenter and author but I definitely didn't like him saying SF was the most intelligent person he'd ever met. I think editing hasn't helped with his lack of 'presence' in the castle but that he's also probably fairly quiet and calm, which doesn't necessary help this game or make goo television.

Maybe SF is the most intelligent person he's ever met?

He obviously hasn't met many people.

I was doing a bit of reading, as some of the celebrities I don't know much about.

Comedy Joe started his career as a stand up support act on Alan Carr's tour in 2004.

Have they even acknowledged that they have crossed paths or know each other ?

David and Nick are still under my radar as unknowns to me !

I agree re Ruth. She thinks Jonathan a Traitor with very little actual evidence- that would probably be exactly the same as if he were Faithful. I just think she is cos playing this Bridget jones baby actress- starting to find her irritating versus enjoyable. Bull in a china shop who might get lucky

Forgot pic 😂

Me too. Celia Imrie is a real dark horse if you ask me, and she has a great talent for comic timing. I keep thinking about her in Acorn Antiques.😂

They think they are the big cheeses - that's the point.

The big difference with Stephen and Nick is that Stephen is known for being clever his intelligence shows through his knowledge and vocabulary. Also, everyone knows him and know he’s clever.
But lots of people don’t know Nick. He is the opposite of Stephen in almost every way. He had a different kind of intelligence. He doesn’t wear it on his sleeve but he can see how puzzles work. He can think, rather than just knowing facts.

Maybe in his head he added "tonight"...

@WonderfulSmith wrote, about Nick in comparison with Stephen, He can think, rather than just knowing facts.

Nick seems to be very logical: I wouldn't say that Stephen just knows facts but it does help that he has "a sticky memory," as I think he said about himself.

I've just listened to Inside Science on BBC R4, which talks about The Traitors and gameplay. It interviews Jaz, who was in series 2. It's on BBC Sounds and will also be repeated at 8:30pm on Monday.

Search YouTube for videos of Nick doing his memory tricks on 8 out of 10 Cats Does Countdown - amazing!

Agree with @WonderfulSmith, Nick has a different kind of intelligence to Stephen, but rather than being “typical” PhD academic intelligence which is often associated with lack of social skills/common sense (sorry to all the academics out there!) his work as a stand up and magician (he’s a member of the Magic Circle) shows an aptitude for people skills, particularly reading people and distraction techniques. Perfect Traitor material, I hope they recruit him!

Yes I have a bit of a crush on him!

I'd like to see her recruited, see how she lies and talks bullshit.

I wonder if David said that about SF to get him on his side and/or to see his reaction?

It’s funny because I was actually thinking they all seem to care far too much for people that are getting paid regardless. I wasn’t expecting so much righteous anger at being accused of being a traitor in a celeb version but there’s actually been plenty of it!

I would guess that Lucy, David and Nick get quite far. Traitors always naturally get more screen time but faithfuls tend to get more screen time early in the game if they’re banished/murdered earlier on.

Yes there’s a lot of ego. Charlotte seemed particularly affronted to have been nominated.
I thought they’d take it in more humour.

Yes I thought Charlotte was really quite huffy about it - I didn't warm to her.
Whereas I thought Ruth was great - I thought she did have a sense of humour about it unlike what others have said.

I didn’t see the Big Dog reference as sexist. They are two of the biggest people in there, both in persona and stature. Yes, Clare and Celia are NT also, but their personality is quieter.

I thought Charlotte was surprised rather than huffy, as it seemed to spring from nowhere. Her name hadn’t really been mentioned until then.

I think she was a bit miffed - she probably thought she'd fly under the radar for a while.

To add to the comments about David referring to Stephen as the most intelligent person he's met....

When they were leaving the house, David lets Stephen go ahead of him and says, "After you No1. " Stephen replies,"After you No2."

Camera shot is from outside do we don't see them.

I thought it made SF sound quite big headed and he didn't bat the comment away in a humble way. Did anyone else interpret it like this or am I off the mark??