Amy Bradley is missing (Netflix)

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Is anyone watching? I’ve read about this case before so was very interested to see they’ve made a Netflix docu-series, especially since they have her actual family/friends/real witnesses involved in it.

Ive watched one episode so far. It’s such a sad but strange and intriguing case. Her poor mum and dad.

It seems they are dangerous due to the isolation. Theres no public police, only security hired by the ships, who's main interest is to protect the companys reputation.
Also travelling through international waters is legally washy as if an incident occours it can be under the jurisdiction of dodgy countries.

Glad there’s a thread about this! Seen documentaries about this before but none touched on her sexuality ( I understand that the family didn’t want this to become a talking point/ people not supporting the search because they didn’t agree with her being a lesbian)

Sadly, I think that pair of girls that saw her and Yellow were off on their timing and she really did get back to her room at 3:40am and maybe the air made her more tipsy than she thought she was and when she went out again she fell overboard.

Side note: there were SO many weirdos on that cruise! Maybe their personality made them all predisposed to appear on the documentary but they all seemed utter twats!

Now you are implying that I am being unfriendly….okay 😐Lots of implying on your part.
With respect, you are reading things into situations that are not there. It can lead to a lot of misunderstandings in your life. Just saying’..

If Amy had taken drugs, that would also have made her more susceptible to a fall.

I think Yellow is dodgy because he goes to a lot of effort to make out that Amy was less innocent than him because she smoked so much! Whenever people do that it immediately raises alarm bells for me.

However, now that I’ve seen what the inside of the Bradley room looked like, I agree with everyone who says that the most likely thing to have happened, sadly, was that Amy fell. Yellow may have felt guilty about giving her drugs 🤷🏻‍♀️

What I do know, though is that my first impressions of what happened in this case were shaped by people saying that the railings were 6 ft tall and that Amy was scared of water. There has been so much misinformation. And the Netflix documentary has omitted a lot of information that was important.

I thought they said Amy was.a strong swimmer?
Although i realise there's a world of difference between being a strong swimmer in a pool than in the open sea if you fell in from a cruise ship.

Yes, she was a strong swimmer and had worked as a lifeguard too. When I first heard about this case, about 5 years ago, the information I got was from a podcast. The person presenting said that Amy had a fear of the sea.

Amy’s dad says he saw her legs on the balcony chair about 6am. By 6.50 he asked the crew to sound an alert re a missing person but they are said to have refused due to it being too early - they didn’t want to wake up/disturb other passengers. That doesn’t make much sense though as by 7.50 passengers were leaving the ship for the day so would have been well up and about by 7 a.m.

So if she was still on the balcony at 6am and her dad did see her legs, it means that the ship must have still been an hour out to sea if the ship docked about 7 - it can take a while to get off for the day so let’s say we’re now up to 7.50.

google tells me that the average cruise ship travels at 20 knots per hour out at sea so allowing for it to be slowing down to come into port - the sped suggested is 6-12 knots per hour depending on the size of the ship. So let’s say it was 6 knots/ 7 miles away from shore when Amy fell overboard between 5.30 and 6am in the morning.

Disclaimer - I’m no sailor and if anyone who knows about these things can calculate a rough distance as to how far the ship could have been when she fell I’d be happy to know the answer.

My mums great nephew fell into the sea from an Australian naval ship a few hours out of Singapore many many moons ago. He’d gone to bed after his watch and in the morning when his colleague went off watch he discovered the cabin empty. This must have happened about 35 years ago now and until today not a single trace has ever been found of him.

I mean that's quite a,distance even if your a,strong swimmer ,especially if you have been up.most of the night drinking and didn't feel great.

I’m not exactly expert at this but dead bodies don’t always drift to shores. I always hear lots of stories that currents can actually drag you from the shore and out into the open sea. So it seems logical that lots of people who are lost at sea and die there, just drift further away out into the open waters and never get washed up dry land. And if there are hungry sharks nearby, they will finish the person off.

It’s so mad I don't understand why Amys supposed comments about swimming to shore have been given any credibility at all, and not just taken as a joke as soon as it was supposedly said by her.

I have just listened to a podcast about this as well, no confirmation of whether a pair of Amy’s shoes were missing! Surely this is the key?

I also can’t seem to find a definite answer of whether her camera was missing or not.

No shoes missing and camera gone suggests that she fell overboard. This does explain how her dad felt something was wrong straight away.

Having looked at the photos of ‘Jazz’ again; her arms are much shorter than Amy’s and she also has a more chiselled chin line. It really looks like Amy at first sight but I don’t think it’s her. Hair is very 1980’s, too - old photo?

I think unfortunately she fell overboard, accidentally possibly taking a photograph of the sunrise or something pretty.

The IP information is strange and compelling, though!

This is a rabbit hole!

Sometimes cruise ships will sit stationary just outside ports if they’ve arrived overnight waiting to dock. So the ship might have been closer to port and the water look calm and inviting?

That is so interesting. They didn't mention the footprints on the railings in the documentary. And the railing does look low. The FBI man gave the impression it came up to his chest.

Which could be the noise that woke her father.

Did anyone else think it odd that Brad left her at the nightclub alone and went back to the cabin? I'm just thinking back to my clubbing days (late 90s) and we would never have left a girl at a club alone. Feels safer on a ship I suppose?

When the father says that something woke him up he doesn’t specifically say what it was, and definitely doesn’t mention noise. He could mean anything…just waking from a dream, his wife stirring, his son turning in his sleep, a feeling or whatever. I don’t understand why people jump to the conclusion that he was woken by Amy making some sort of noise?

@Allmarbleslost the nightclubs on a ship are very tame. Nothing like those on shore.

If she was taken how would they have got into the room and onto the balcony and taken her if the whole family were sleeping in the room

That's my point exactly. They are in a holding position waiting until they can dock at the correct time.

Not always. In fact I’ve been on more cruises where we’ve sailed straight into port from the sea than I’ve ever been in a holding position.

But I agree it would be very interesting to know the position of the boat between 5.30 and 6.00 am.

But quite what Amy was going to do once she’d got to shore/into port in her soaking wet clothes and without shoes/money/ID is anyone’s guess.

I've been on cruises where they go at a literal snails pace to make the right time... not too early. They hang about at sea sometimes too. Or they sail straight in. I agree it would be interesting to know the position of the ship at 5.30

I think it was a mad idea she had after too much to drink, just my opinion. She was going to surprise her family by being on shore ready and waiting for them (I think)
You can't get off a ship without being logged out. Or logged in on returning so I have no idea how they could smuggle someone off. Unless there were people below deck to take her through the loading bay

They theorise that she might have left the room when her family was asleep and went to see someone or just wandered on the decks and this is when someone could have dragged her away into some dark room or some hidden place and kept her there until it was safe to smuggle her off the ship. But it is highly unlikely. Her abductor then would have had to make sure that she crept out of the room when all her family was asleep and unaware that she left the room, otherwise they would raise the alarm noticing that she’s still nowhere in the morning. Nobody would be stupid enough to try and abduct a passenger on a cruise ship without making sure that she left her room without notifying family or friends. Even if the abductor does make sure, you can’t abduct someone on a ship. The only way to make someone disappear is to throw them overboard. I don’t think Amy left that ship via doors or entrances. She fell into the waters. Either accident or someone threw her.

I think the theory is she left her room and was subsequently taken although why she would have left barefoot is a mystery.

I agree to me it must be that she went into the waters from the balcony. Why on earth would you leave the room without your shoes.