Amy Bradley is missing (Netflix)

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Is anyone watching? I’ve read about this case before so was very interested to see they’ve made a Netflix docu-series, especially since they have her actual family/friends/real witnesses involved in it.

Ive watched one episode so far. It’s such a sad but strange and intriguing case. Her poor mum and dad.

I've been on cruises where they go at a literal snails pace to make the right time... not too early

Yes, me too. I love it. I’m always on my balcony from early on just to get the full experience. Sail always I’m not bothered about but arriving is a completely different feeling all together.

This documentary and the other poop cruise documentary have put me off cruises for life

Totally agree. Especially if the sun is rising. It's magic.

That crossed my mind, too. And the neighbours in next cabin said he was making a lot of noise around that time. Talking loudly or tv very loud.

Whether he was involved or not, I do think she fell/jumped/was pushed overboard.

However, did nobody else think it was odd that her dad “reported her missing” and wanted announcements etc put out when she had been “missing” for around 10 minutes?

I know that, sadly, it turned out he was right to be concerned, but she was a grown woman, not a child, I thought it odd how quickly he raised the alarm.

In saying that, I don’t for a minute think he had anything to do with it.

I agree with the comments about the cruise director - he was a total shit.

The marine guy, yes, he was a horrible sleaze and he should have reported it sooner (even anonymously??) but what about what he said about “she said she left the boat to score drugs”? He would have no reason to make that up, so maybe that is what initially happened, and then she was snatched?

Did they say whether any of her other shoes were missing? Her sandals were left on the balcony, so was she barefoot? Or wearing other shoes?

The photos. I’m not sure. They do look like her but I’m not 100%.

As a pp said though, if I were her parents I’d be moving out there and just looking, looking, looking.

However, I do totally feel for them. And remember, I think they were only in their mid 40s when this happened. They weren’t a couple of retirees then. They would have had to go have gone back to work. Back to their insurance jobs. Just awful. And then to read that they have latterly been scammed is just awful.

I’ll admit to falling asleep and missing the end of the third episode, so missed any suggestion she may have had a child.

I caught the gist of the increased internet hits around significant dates. That is interesting and points to her being still alive. But if she is, and she has internet access, surely she could escape?

Finally, the sightings. I don’t find these convincing at all. Nothing to do with these particular witnesses, I’m just always dubious. Last spring my cat went missing. We put out loads of posters etc. we had loads and loads and loads of phonecalls and messages from people who had seen her. Some were from really far away (over a mile etc) and I was sure they were mistaken, but they sounded so sure. Others were from nearby, and again, they were convinced they’d seen her. I found her after 3 days. She was trapped in a neighbours shed. None of the sightings had been her, despite how well meaning these people had been and how certain they were and all the details of her appearance they specifically remembered seeing.

Talking loudly or tv very loud

.they said that for a few days following Amy’s disappearance he was talking loudly and that the TV was also on louder

The suggestion by the very biased documentary makers being that he was keeping Amy captive in his cabin and had increased the volume of the tv to make sure no one could hear her calling for help for eg.

Complete madness.

I wonder if Amy slid the patio door open to grab her camera from next to her bed? But, I can’t find anything definitive that says her camera was actually missing.

No. I used to go out sometimes with my younger brother and then we’d join separate friends during the evening. He would have gone home without me as long as he knew I was happy and safe (and able to get home okay). I am a similar age to Amy and this was normal in c1988.

Having seen the room layout on the YouTube posted unthread by a previous poster though, I can completely understand why Amy was sleeping on the balcony. I wouldn’t have been comfortable sleeping in what is effectively a double bed (and my brother is lovely).

@VintageDiamondGirl the whole documentary was made up of deliberate omissions by Netflix of very small pieces of information that would have had the the whole thing over and done with in 30 minutes at most, if they hadn’t been going for sensationalism instead of quality and factual reporting of the circumstances surrounding a young woman’s death.

Thank you. It’s frustrating. I’ll have to read more about this case. I have only 2 questions: if her shoes were all accounted for and her camera was missing then likely no foul play. I don’t buy that it can be guaranteed that her body would definitely be washed ashore. Especially in shark infested seas.

I don't buy the "sightings" of her either. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously wooly. People do make mistakes, overestimate their certainty and remember things incorrectly. I'm not saying the witnesses are lying.... humans are absolutely dreadful at remembering people and events accurately. It's been proven many times.

Look at her brother. He was certain he heard Amy's voice from the passing car. She's his sister, he knew her voice. But she wasn't there (obviously.)

I agree. Nobody can know that the things they see will have significance in the future. Some of the witnesses spent time with Amy but with all the coming and going they could have been wrong about the timing.

I don’t think the fact she was a strong swimmer is relevant. We know alcohol and/or drugs massively impact people’s performance. The shock of the cold water is widely different to a swimming pool in a leisure centre.

I think she climbed up on the table on the balcony for some reason (to take a photo?) and fell overboard.
She didn’t wash up because either the tide took her another way and/or she was eaten. I know that bloke said a limb would have washed to shore, but it’s feasible that any limbs might have been eaten other sharks, even if not the original one who first attacked her.

I think her family know deep down what likely happened, but they just can’t face it so they cling to the hope of her being alive.

Eye witnesses are notoriously flaky. It’s been proven in multiple studies that humans misremember, and embellish things the more they retell it (even subconsciously).
I don’t believe the photo was Amy.

And awful as it is, I assume that ship would have ginormous propellors.

I do think she went over and subconsciously her father heard her slip over in his sleep. Seeing her there on the balcony and then not there so soon afterwards and her shoes being left, I think all added to his feeling that something terrible had happened. Hence his panic setting in so rapidly.

I also think that Amy, knowing the her parents would wake soon for disembarkation, would’ve left a note ‘just popped up to deck for a coffee.’ That was what everyone did in 1998.

My only other thought is that the dude next door was awake and on his balcony and enticed her over to his balcony, something like him seeingI her take a photo and saying the view was better from his balcony. And she slipped climbing over.

I don’t think she would’ve been interested in scoring drugs (sporty). And I don’t think there was any other interaction with Yellow. I reckon he was just after some fun and a tip. Probably danced with passengers on every cruise. I think the person the 2 friends saw on the balcony at 6am was not Yellow.

If anyone wants to know more there’s an excellent podcast called “Case File” which has an episode on this. It’s where I first heard about it, there’s so much more to it than this sensationalist Netflix doc. There are whole elements to the case that Netflix don’t even touch upon. The parents were exploited and lost a lot of money to extortion which shows how committed they were to the kidnapping theory.

This is also the first time Amy’s sexuality has been discussed. It doesn’t really change much but I do wonder why it was never mentioned before.

I did read somewhere (Reddit maybe?) that Brad her brother has just revealed that Amy had a “secret” boyfriend at the time of her disappearance.

I would take that with a large pinch of salt.

There’s a special place in hell for the people who scammed those poor parents 😢 It’s evil behaviour.

Binged watched this programme. I initially thought she’d gone to score drugs and got into a difficult situation but I think it’s more likely she went overboard being sick or something.

Her brother is on X posting quite a bit following the doc and says Netflix left lots of stuff out, specifically Amy having a boyfriend (she was bi apparently) and also about some women she was talking to that night who were in some kind of similar dress/outfit who he believed were Scientologists (their boat was nearby). The Scientologists (not the same women) visited the family on shore to offer them support the night after Amy disappeared. He’s looking to speak to a couple of high profile ex Scientologists (can’t remember names).

Very sad for the family but suspect the truth is the most obvious one.

It's a reasonable assumption, given that she was no longer on the balcony, the door into the room was open, her cigarettes and lighter had gone. Her moving through the room and out of it could well have been what woke him. That, or, as many others have said, the sound of her crying out if she slipped and fell, though I'd have thought a few people would hear that in cabins all around.

They wouldn't. It looks like she left the room, maybe to go up on deck to have a cigarette and watch the dawn. She may have felt restless, as she was hung over, had been up most of the night. That would account for her leaving the room with no shoes on. Then maybe, as the two women suggest, she did bump into the bassist again and they did go back up to the now closed disco area together and then something happened. It's possible, just as her accidentally falling or committing suicide is possible.

Just gone/going down the X rabbit hole. There’s a lot to take in, even more theories! The family certainly believe she’s been taken, but taken by any one of number of groups.

I still believe the most obvious outcome, she went overboard. Not sure if that was by choice, by accident or pushed deliberately but sadly, I think she’s gone.

I think this is the most likely outcome and as I have always, said the most preferable, for Amy,s sake .

There's so much to support this theory, it's definitely most likely - she left her polo shirt she had been wearing and her shoes behind, her cigarettes, her wallet ... surely if she had got changed into new clothes it would have woken her parents and brother up? If she had left the ship to buy drugs she'd take her wallet? Wherever she went, she'd wear shoes. It makes sense that she would have removed her top on the cabin balcony if she was feeling hot. She stripped to her bra, took her shoes off, maybe leaned over to be sick, maybe climbed up on the railings to watch the boat dock and fell overboard. It doesn't make sense she wouldn't have washed up on the shore, though, given how close they were to docking...but I agree it would be completely insane for people traffickers to take a middle-class white American woman on a cruise. That photo does look like her. But photos can be deceiving. I also think that every missing person case has a few people who claim to have spotted the missing person and in this case I didn't find anyone except the Canadian guy believable - and maybe he was wrong about the person he saw being her. The thing with Alister's daughter was bizarre, if anything hearing him talk to her made me believe he had nothing to do with it whereas before I was convinced he was involved. So - yes she probably went overboard but loads of reasonable doubt around that and you would as a parent leave no stone unturned.

I also agree it was odd that her parents were demanding a tannoy when she had been missing less than an hour. It was a busy ship and she was 23. She could have been on the toilet or in a friend's cabin. Not that I think there was foul play but perhaps her dad did hear her fall overboard and just hasn't been able to look that reality in the face. Sad.

If Amy was in the habit of always being around her family in the mornings and always leaving the cabin together for breakfast after getting ready for the day, then I can understand why the family panicked at her absence.

I totally agree that it doesn’t make sense to abduct a white, middle-class American woman on a holiday cruise ship for trafficking. Surely traffickers are not that stupid. They know it would make an international case and would draw police - and public attention to the region which would potentially hinder their business and restrict their activities.

Just finished this on Netflix and can’t stop thinking about it! I was walking on the treadmill so stuck this documentary on. As soon as it got to the part it said she was missing in a 30 minute time stamp I thought well she went overboard and I nearly switched it off because I thought how can they drag this out when it’s clearly what’s happened. BUT, there seems to be too many odd things that happened afterwards? Could so many people honestly have got it wrong about seeing her. What motive would they all have.

Also, the girls who saw her with yellow - I personally think she went off to get drugs and something happened to her. Not sure about the trafficking angle, but I think she did leave her cabin (without shoes even) to meet someone for drugs. I find it absolutely terrifying that someone can be on holiday with their family and go missing - even whilst sharing a bedroom with their parents. I feel so bad for her family. It really is a strange story.