Amy Bradley is missing (Netflix)

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Is anyone watching? I’ve read about this case before so was very interested to see they’ve made a Netflix docu-series, especially since they have her actual family/friends/real witnesses involved in it.

Ive watched one episode so far. It’s such a sad but strange and intriguing case. Her poor mum and dad.

I binged all 3 episode yesterday, always been quite interested on the case but this the 1st thing I have watched rather than read.

One thing that struck me was how divided the portrayal of Amy was over the Netflix show, the 1st episode or so she was really shown as the girl next door, lots of sweet childhood video footage, slightly longer curly hair which made her look softer somehow, a really family girl, lots of school sports events but as the show progressed I felt she became harder faced, lots more partying pictures, often looking quite wasted, fag hanging out her mouth, very sharp, severe haircuts and she oozed that kind of masculine “bad boy” energy. Obviously she was gay so in todays society just someone being their-self however two things struck me I would not be surprised at all from image alone that she went looking to score drugs but also how depressingly compromised she must have felt at a person to be expected to put on an evening dinner dress, make up etc when she clearly didn’t identify as someone who would ordinarily do that…

I felt quite clear from the programme that there were still very much issues on that cruise with reference to who her patents expected her to be and who she was and the pressure in 1995 that would bring too all.

That being said I believed the two young girls account of seeing Yellow and Amy as they had previously already spoken and got to know her that evening. The FBI said they couldn’t be sure of the time however the girls said when Y&A went up the glass lift to the pool deck at that time it was closed which suggests to me that it more likely to be the time that they believed rather than earlier in the evening and coming back to my previous thoughts I believe she might have gone back looking to score/buy drugs and from there something happened.

How far would it have been to shore?

Tbf she was 23 even the photos where she looked drunk and was smoking wasn't anything out of the ordinary for a 23 year in the 90,s ime anyway
I think someone did say they thought she has gone to score drugs but Brad denied it saying it wasent her thing
Maybe he was trying to protect his parents or maybe he didn't know everything about her.

No idea. That didn't come into the NF series that I saw. However, the ship docked early morning so I imagine quite close. The ships usually cruise slowly or wait just outside port until their port time is upon them.

Why do so many of you believe that a person walking in/out of a cabin would definitely wake up the other three sleeping inside? If Amy left the cabin, she probably didn’t do it loudly banging the door and singing aloud, she must have been respectful of her whole family being asleep, so was quiet about it. We all do the same when we know someone is asleep nearby.
On a different note, I’m not at all sure she wanted to try and swim to the shore, leaping from the balcony. Surely, she couldn’t have been so stupid? Who jumps from a massive gigantic cruise ship to the murky ocean below at the crack of dawn? The whole idea is ridiculous.
As for the fingerprints on the balcony glass..did they belong to Amy? If there weren’t forensics involved, they could have belonged to any other member of the family, or even the cleaning staff because they apparently cleaned the room before proper investigators arrived.

James Renner actually went on the boat and filmed his own footage of what the environment on the boat was like and he was able to go into the room the family had and onto the balcony if look at the video. He films over the side of the balcony (which was small as well).

To me, it sounded as if Amy didn’t want to be sleeping right next to her brother every night on the sofa bed so she sometimes slept out on the balcony. The room they stayed in is very cramped. If you’re the sort of person who likes privacy, it could be annoying.

Whoever said on this thread that the Netflix show had presented things a certain way for their own ends is right I think!

Everyone saying she went overboard, what happened to her body? The police officer said that if she went into the water, she one hundred percent would have washed up on the beach. Even if sharks would have got hurt, they would have found something like an arm leg or clothing.
The ship by that time was right near the dock with the tide coming in, bodies float. She wouldn't have sunk.She would've been pulled onto the beach

On a different note, I’m not at all sure she wanted to try and swim to the shore, leaping from the balcony. Surely, she couldn’t have been so stupid? Who jumps from a massive gigantic cruise ship to the murky ocean below at the crack of dawn? The whole idea is ridiculous.

I don't think it's ridiculous at all. And she had talked about it. And she probably felt invincible after a few drinks.

When you say who jumps from a massive gigantic cruise ship, it really is not unusual! There is footage out there of people who have done it for a laugh, and since been banned from the cruise line.

I wanted to know what happened to her camera, and what were the last photos she took. The camera seemed important in the first episode, but wasn't mentioned again.

I think it's most likely she went overboard, possibly leaning out trying to take photos of the sunrise and coming in to port.

The photos of the sex worker were obviously not her - completely different jawline.

The witnesses all wanted to be helpful, but I don't think they were particularly credible. The girls on the deck might have been mistaken about times or what they saw having probably been pretty drunk. The guy on the beach seemed to want to be the one that solved the puzzle. The woman in the toilet has a frightening experience and detail gets jumbled in situations like that.

Yellow seemed like a red herring. I'm sure the entertainment team were expected to interact with the passengers, dancing and flirting would be par for the course with single passengers. And he collected seemingly innocent (ie posed for, not sneakily taken bikini shots) photos of passengers he liked/had spent time with (who knows?). He might have been a perv, he might have been sentimental. I don't know what his daughter's motivation was to try to put him in the frame. But I wasn't convinced he would have the ability to steal passengers to order and be able to accompany them from island to island during shore leave. He remained an employee on the ship for another couple of years after.

My theory is that dad was woken by her falling. I think perhaps subconsciously he knew what had happened. He very quickly goes looking for her and in a relatively short space of time concludes she’s missing. This is a big ship and she’s an adult. Unless you had some sort of reason for believing something had happened to her, I don’t think you’d immediately conclude she was missing in such a short space of time. He was out combing the ship for her before 7am, as he asked for an announcement around that time. Why? He had seen her not along ago, she’d obviously been out and about on her own plenty on the trip, coming and going from the cabin at all hours, but something made him concerned very quickly when she wasn’t there when ‘something’ woke him up even though he’d seen her 30 mins or so previously. I think that something in him knew what had happened, perhaps not consciously, and his actions were born out of that.

I really think this. If a pair or her shoes are missing then she left the cabin. If not, far more likely that she went overboard. It seems like it should be pretty simple, really. On a ship, you wouldn't leave the cabin without shoes.

Apparently he's named after the father but just goes by Brad, instead of "father's name jr" I thought it was an add name choice 😆

I also think that the family initially did believe she had gone overboard. They went back home very quickly. I know grief can affect decisions, but if you thought your daughter had been abducted and was alive possibly nearby on a very small island, would you fly home for three weeks? I think the family ‘knew’ she had gone overboard but then in the grief/denial/people whispering in their ear, latched on to the trafficking theory.

If she had been trafficked and on websites etc, why did no one just book her? What about all the customers in that time?

It was also intriguing when the family flew back to the region and were searching the island, when her brother heard Amy calling his name from a passing car. Then when they followed the car, it turned out to have just one man in it, but the brother swore he could hear Amy’s voice clear as a bell. It’s woo and all but nonetheless interesting.

I think there was a lot of licence on the part of Netflix to make it a watchable programme.

I wondered what the point of that story from Brad was. Was he suggesting that she had been in the car and somehow had been got rid of before they got there? Or was it an admission that they were hearing and seeing things they wanted to or that they had become obsessed? As it just made me think that they had lost all logic by that point, understandably, but I wonder what his motivation in sharing it was as generally the family have been very fixed about what they think happened.

The population of Curaçao was about 130k at that time. The island itself is only 171 sq miles. It’s very small.

I definitely took that as them being very honest about their mental state at that time. The dad also said that he went into a shed and noticed a box of Tic Tacs next to a bed and because Amy liked them, he immediately thought that she must have been there.

He didn’t say that Amy must have been there, he said he wondered if Amy had been there. It’s not the same.

Does anyone know if the ‘witnesses’ were paid for their appearances on the show?

Netflix and co don’t strike me as philanthropic organisations.

Split hairs if you like; the point is that the father and son were being honest about their mental state at that time. The father seeing the Tic Tacs and them 'hearing' Amy call from a car.

Not sure what the point of your comment is at all. It amounts to the same point the documentary makers (and the family) were making.

It’s not splitting hairs. There’s a vast difference between thinking that someone must have been somewhere or wondering if they had been there. Similarly, there’s a difference between “Let’s eat Peter” and “Let’s eat, Peter” don’t you think?
The dad didn’t imply that he was delusional, but rather more desperate.

More spilling hairs... the point being made was that the family were desperate yes, but also delusional (hearing voices and jumping to huge conclusions).

You aren't adding anything useful to this previously friendly thread.

I watched the documentaries last night on the back of this thread.

Seems odd to me that she chose to leave with someone and wasn’t able to attract attention at all. I wonder if there was a darker side to her people didn’t know about? Also seems odd that the police was so certain some of her would have washed up and it hadn’t. Had she drowned.

Can I ask why people think cruises are inherently dangerous? We were planning to do a family cruise next year with our 4 and 6 year old?

Her body or part of it perhaps did wash ashore. The boat was so close to it. Perhaps people just didn’t mention it. Keeping the mystery ($$) alive.