Amy Bradley is missing (Netflix)

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Is anyone watching? I’ve read about this case before so was very interested to see they’ve made a Netflix docu-series, especially since they have her actual family/friends/real witnesses involved in it.

Ive watched one episode so far. It’s such a sad but strange and intriguing case. Her poor mum and dad.

Yes I think regardless of what happened the ships management have a lot to answer for regarding how her disappearance was handled.

I imagine it didn’t cross her family’s mind to say the room shouldn’t be cleaned. Maybe they just presumed it wouldn’t be and didn’t think it needed saying, or they were so caught up in trying to think where she might be that they forgot.

Totally agree the navy man had been a punter that night. If not of Amy but another woman in that bar.

Also I think attitudes to tattoos were very different then, and might have been seen as a marker that she was less than and so stealable.

I went to uni in ‘95 and mobiles were given away for free as an incentive to take out expensive phone plans. Most of my peers had them by ‘98 when we started working. But we would never have used them abroad, rates were crazy so they’d have been useless on a cruise and probably would have stayed at home.

Sorry typo
‘thrust should read *Thoughts

I mean anything is possible but she was sharing a cabin with her brother and parents he would have to be brazen to try anything
Also why would she go to his cabin? ( genuine question)

Apart from the fact that the FBI appear to be keeping an open mind, I'd tend to agree that the simplest explanation would be the most probable. There was no suggestion from either of the two FBI investigators that going overboard was the most likely scenario. Meanwhile, their research into the photos was persuasive and the implication was that the IP leads were taken seriously.

As it is, I do find it odd, though. It seems a very high stakes way of trafficking someone (had passengers been prevented from disembarking, she presumably would have been found if alive at that point, and would be identified if repeated) and the bar described by the sailor didn't sound like a typical setting for a trafficked woman of such a value that would justify that risk. Sadly, I should think it's fairly easy to staff such places. Perhaps this just casts doubt on the sightings, or at least some of them, however.

I agree @x2boys I don’t believe for a second that she would go into his cabin.

I also agree that the most likely explanation is that she fell overboard, even though those photos look remarkably like her.

Perhaps he suggested it so they could carry on drinking? I dunno, but a lone man on a cruise?

I also wonder if the FBI seriously believed she had been trafficked, was possibly still at risk, and they had a good idea of her location, whether they would have allowed the documentary to be aired.

Surely this just heightens her risk? I know it’s a double edged sword as the press attention can bring forward new witnesses and sightings but equally if you had trafficked a woman to the Bahamas and then a major documentary aired saying we think she’s this trafficked woman in the Bahamas and may be accessing this website. Well you’re not going to keep her there when they’re on to you are you?

Yeah I thought about that too, but I reckon they have nothing to lose at this point.

There have been a number of Documentaries though over the years and her parents and brother have made several appearances on Talk shows discussing her disappearance
It's quite a well known case.

It just seems to me that Amy was a confident young women who knew her own mind, why would she want to have a drink with the creepy guy in the next cabin?
It's interesting to hear the different theories as to what could have happened but so very sad.

I've recently been on a cruise, so found the prog very interesting.
I do not think people realise just how risky a cruise can be.
If someone goes overboard, especially at night, virtually no chance of finding them.
There are more CCTV camera these days, so someone going overboard would be more likely to be seen.
From the prog, it appeared she had left the cabin. (her cigarettes and lighter were missing as well).
I found it interesting to hear from the FBI agents, who explained some of the investigation; (ie the computerised ID card showed when she entered the cabin, but not if anyone left the cabin), and how difficult it is to investigate in other countries.
Sad, but I think it likely she is probably deceased.
I think the cruise director was in a difficult position. He did not want to interfere with the rest of the cruise. I am not sure what he should have done differently.

I’m only on episode one at the moment so haven’t seen the whole documentary.

I thought it was a bit odd that her parents thought she was missing so quickly. Her dad sees her at 530 ish then she’s gone at 6 ish. He assumes she’s gone for a coffee etc. why ask for a ship announcement by 7? She’s an adult and those ships are large. She could have been anywhere. I’d understand them being concerned if she hadn’t returned when the ship docked but it seemed very soon to be concerned to me. Unless it was parents intuition and they just had a feeling something was wrong.

would the family have had any motive considering her sexuality?

Were any of her shoes missing? Surely you wouldn’t leave the cabin without shoes. So to me she either fell or was pushed over. There’s only her dad’s word she was seen at 530.

I’m not clear where her bedroom was compared to her parents, I assume adjacent but with no balcony access?

I watched it all and find it hard to believe she was trafficked. I don't think she fits the criteria and didn't seem vulnerable. Wonder if she felt let her down by her parents being judgemental about her sexuality. She had a good bond with her brother. The girlfriend's tearful account seemed very sincere - they really loved each other. If she was still alive I think she'd have found a way to contact her family and girlfriend.

The cleaners could have moved the table. Also, the balcony door was shut when her dad first woke up and saw her, then it was open when he next woke up and realised she wasn't there.

And what about the girls who saw her with Yellow?

Her parents seem completely broken by her disapperence ,whilst anything is possible they have spent their life savings trying to find her and been swindle out of a lot of money in the process
Whilst they may have disapproved of her being gay ,most loving parents accept it eventually
If her Dad had anything to do with it ,it seems unbelievably cruel to have also destroyed his wife and sons life to plus how large could those cabins have been surely Brad or Iva would have woken up if there was an argument.

It then you have to get those vulnerable women to Barbados. Which is not so easy.

To those people who think she probably fell overboard: then how do you explain that later (after her dad noticed that she wasn’t on the balcony, nor inside the room anymore) she was seen by another young woman and her friend on the upper deck with one of the musicians named Yellow at the crack of dawn?
On the other hand if she did fall into the ocean, why is it not possible that she was eaten by sharks completely and that’s why no remains washed ashore? Apparently sharks are most active at dawn and mostly that’s when they go hunting, so if there was a group of sharks, it is possible that they devoured her completely. The local policeman seemed very sure that her remains would have been washed onto the shore but how can he be so certain?

Those girls recollection, s might not be entirely correct maybe they did see Amy and yellow together but it was earlier than they thought before she returned to her cabin they had been up partying all night and probably been drinking they could have lost track of time
Or maybe they didn't see yellow and Amy Amy was a fairly average looking girl, pretty enough, but could have resembled any number of young women with short dark hair at first glance maybe yellow had been with another young women and it was after the two girls,thought they had seen them together ?

Sightings and witness statements always have to be treated with massive caution. Even immediately after the event, people’s recollection of the exact time and details start to fade. By the time most people are interviewed, there’s no way of knowing how accurate the time was unless there was some specific event related to the sighting that pins it to an actual time, such as knowing it was 9 o’clock because the 9 o’clock news was on at the time, etc. It’s quite common for someone to be sure it was X time and for them to be an hour or even more off. Particularly in an environment like a cruise ship, where it can be a bit timeless in a way. If it was her, which it might not even be, it’s entirely possible it was a different time.

Investigations unfortunately get derailed a lot by inaccurate recollections, innocently done but it’s just a major issue when interviewing witnesses. They are unreliable because people don’t go through life taking note of specifics in case they are interviewed in the future about them.

That’s true. I also think that a lot of people who are “eyewitnesses” just want their 15 minutes of fame or revel in the attention, want to be seen as the crown witness or a hero whose testimony solves a case. So they tell some seemingly harmless lie that they saw XY on the island of Aruba or whatever, just for the attention.

I also think that if he had abducted her, it would have been a very odd thing to do. He was on a cruise ship with no way off, it was likely that within a very short of time there would possible be a large hunt for her - she’s a young white American woman travelling with her family. Her disappearance would be and indeed was noticed very quickly. She doesn’t fit any sort of normal risk profile for a trafficking victim. So he would have had to abduct and hide her knowing it’s entirely possible they would search the ship. He would then need to be confident in his ability to get her off the ship, when potentially it was going to be locked down by law enforcement. It is immensely risky, when there are much easier ways of getting human trafficking victims.

Turns out the initial response was lacking, but there was no way for him to know that in advance, so it’s a hell of a risk to take when there are so many easier ways.

I think it’s a actually more likely that he killed her due to being turned down or something that any human trafficking stuff, but I do really believe that the father waking up suddenly due to ‘something’ was Amy falling off the ship. Perhaps she made a cry, a shout, the sudden movement caused him to wake from dozing, something made him wake up, and she was gone. She had slip-on shoes IIRC, that she would almost certainly have worn if she was going to leave the cabin. She obv took her cigarettes with her and I believe she changed her shirt when she got back to the cabin, so would she then leave the cabin to go somewhere else on the ship without wearing shoes? It seems unlikely. But being barefoot on balcony wouldn’t be unusual.

If you look at pics of the actual cabin, not the reconstruction footage, I wouldn’t say that the railing was high either. If you had got onto the table or a chair to puke over (her brother said she wasn’t feeling well, so perhaps she wanted fresh air and to not wake up parents in the cabin), it would be very possible to tip over IMO. The railings are much shorter than on modern cruise ships.

This has been a really long-running discussion on unsolved mysteries subreddits etc, so a lot of the stuff in the documentary has been discussed pretty heavily up till now. There’s some good Reddit threads on it that break a lot of stuff down.

@milveycrohn

The Cruise Director, on a professional level, was caught between a rock and a hard place, I’ll give you that. But that doesn’t mean that he had to come across as an unfeeling prick on the show.

The eyewitnesses on the ship said that Amy stood out, specifically because there were very few people of her age group on the ship. One of the (then girls) who remembered seeing her with Yellow had spent enough time talking to Amy to find out stuff about her life.

I’m not sure if that makes them more likely to be accurate about the timing but I should imagine it does make it more likely that they did see Amy and not another girl.

I agree I think the simplest answer is often the one overlooked the most. The shoes is the thing for me. Nobody would walk off without shoes.