Amy Bradley is missing (Netflix)

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Is anyone watching? I’ve read about this case before so was very interested to see they’ve made a Netflix docu-series, especially since they have her actual family/friends/real witnesses involved in it.

Ive watched one episode so far. It’s such a sad but strange and intriguing case. Her poor mum and dad.

I think people are underestimation what family dynamics can cause people to say/do when they’re in a dysfunctional or toxic family relationship.

Is Alistair Douglas’s daughter brave? Perhaps. But I think it’s more likely that she’s hurt and angry and lashing out at him rather than being vindictive.

I agree but no matter how toxic family relations are, it’s quite unusual for a child to so publicly slate and drag their own parent’s name into disrepute.

@IShouldNotCoco Im sorry but I have to disagree with you on that.

Thanks for the link
How could Amy's Dad force her to come on the cruise, she was 23 ,with her own apartment ,a job her own money etc none of what he's said makes sense.

Watched last night and more Qs arose than were answered!

— where was her camera? was that missing? If so, then I think she went overboard by accident while taking pics.

— someone mentioned drugs. If Amy was using, then she could have got into trouble either by trying to buy onboard or maybe getting off the ship early to score and then finding herself in trouble.

— the photos were uncannily like her, but surely they could eliminate whoever they really were of, if not Amy.

— she didn’t fit the profile of, I don’t think, of a desirable young woman to enter the sex trade. She was 24, intelligent, strong physically and mentally, unlikely to be easily coerced. (Unless maybe drugs were involved)

Ocam’s Razor theory says the most obvious and simplest answer is usually correct. Amy went overboard by accident.

I get that her family want to believe she’ll come home one day, they hold onto that hope. I hope they get an answer before long.

Perhaps she felt obligated to go because it was a special occasion for her parents. But more than that perhaps she felt obligated/under pressure to go because there had been a family upset/there still was a bit of residual upset going on due to her coming out. Perhaps she was trying to make things up to her parents.

Why is Yellow’s daughter so invested in this case? I think because it is a very well known case and she wants to be a part of it, not because she is genuinely concerned about Amy. She wasn’t even born when Amy disappeared. Yellow was probably a womaniser who neglected his wife and family and that’s why his daughter doesn’t care about making her dad look suspicious. I can imagine her mum also trying to somehow tarnish Yellow’s image to her daughter. She doesn’t care about Amy, she probably just wants to look important.

someone mentioned drugs. If Amy was using, then she could have got into trouble either by trying to buy onboard or maybe getting off the ship early to score and then finding herself in trouble

I can’t recall if she took her handbag/wallet/ID/money to buy drugs with her when she’s supposed to have left the shop to buy drugs without any shoes on. And when you’re leaving a cruise ship it’s not a free for all. It’s controlled. You take your ships pass with you and any cruise I’ve been on it’s checked/scanned when leaving the ship and again when getting back on.

Not that it’s hugely relevant really but the US was very behind Western Europe in mobile phone usage. It was so much more expensive that widespread cell phone usage wasn’t till post-2000. Also I’m a similar age to Amy and a lot of my friends got very negative reactions from parents when coming out in the 90s.

How were their friends though?
Im.also a,similar age to Amy,as I say up.thread my nephew came out a couple of years ago he's 23 my sister his mum has been fully supportive and had an idea he might have been anyway ,my parents have also.been understanding but I'm not sure they would have been as understanding back in the 90,s had it been me or my sister that were gay
It's a,lot more mainstream now not hidden away thankfully

I do wonder about her shoes. On the balcony they found her Birkenstock style shoes. Not a pair I would wear to a nightclub so they could have just been shoes she was keeping on the balcony.

I feel that this is key to what happened. I doubt she’d have left the cabin barefoot. If any of her other shoes were missing then surely that changes things to something potentially more nefarious than an accidental fall from the family cabin balcony.

@VintageDiamondGirl if I recall correctly she was dressed down in the nightclub and Birkenstocks would have suited what she was wearing.

Were any of her other shoes missing? Who knows. I cant recall any mention in the show about her belongings being checked and items being missing. It’s almost as if certain things were deliberately omitted or glossed over because it suited the family/makers of the documentary to lead our minds in a certain direction only.

What a sad story. I hadn’t realised that cruises weren’t particularly safe and that there’d been a few incidents.

The most logical explanation feels like she fell overboard. Maybe she left the cabin went up deck and there was a scuffle with a man and she was pushed and fell overboard. The man in the neighbouring cabin seemed like a real creep. Going up to the disco to “…look at girls”. 🤮

A small part of me wonders if she was indeed taken and that she hasn’t called home because she’s had children and she’s in fear of something happening to them but I do wonder how anyone got her off the ship. In the documentary it said the cruise staff searched their own cabins so she could’ve been kept there.

I didn’t like the cruise director, Kirk. He came across really badly. Regardless that they did what they could, he came across as cold and insensitive and a bit of a prick. I also didn’t like the navy guy who seemed to be in bars looking for women and didn’t do anything when he told by that girl she was being held.

All in all a curious and sad story. I hope her parents and brother get closure.

IIRC her wallet and cigarettes were missing but her shoes were left behind.

To me, the fact that her shoes were left on the balcony is the clincher and is what makes me believe she unfortunately went overboard. Nobody is leaving the cabin without any shoes on and if another pair of her shoes were missing you'd think it would have been mentioned.

I can’t believe her dad wrote a 3 page letter to her girlfriend saying how he was disappointed. Maybe she was really depressed and had been pressured to go on the holiday and even killed herself or made a plan to leave the ship to get away from her homophobic family.

There’s an awful lot of people who are convinced they’ve seen and spoken to Amy. The woman in the toilet, the man who was scuba diving, the sailor in the bar. They couldn’t all be Amy. People just want to get involved, look at all the people who claim to have seen Elvis or Tupac.

The doc didn’t mention Frank Jones who conned the Bradley’s out of £££s for a rescue operation that never existed, he went to prison for it.

Not sure about Amica, Yellow’s daughter either. I think he was just a sleaze who loved to flirt with drunk tourists. I don’t think he’s a trafficker.

Huge sympathy for Amy’s parents but her Dad wrote a 3 page letter to Amy’s GF when she came out, who does that?

What a sad story. I hadn’t realised that cruises weren’t particularly safe and that there’d been a few incidents

They're very safe.

Are you aware of how many people go missing or have accidents on non cruise holiday worldwide?

And if you look at the link posted it’s very clear that going near cabin balconies, or the railings on a deck when you’ve been drinking isn’t really a good idea.

Balconies and alcohol just don’t mix. Multiple young people (mostly men) die every year on holiday from falling off balconies. It feels like I see a story about it on the BBC news app depressingly regularly.

@doodleschnoodle

The amount of times it’s happening of late is astounding. There’s hardly a couple of days go by when there’s another report of an accidental death or serious injury happening in some holiday hotspot or another.

But if you happen to be a victim of crime (of any sort) on a cruise ship, it’s not easy to have it investigated or for the perpetrators to be brought to justice. Because it’s not always clear who has the authority / responsibility to investigate. You are on a moving city with limited access to law enforcement.

Rebecca Coriam is another young woman who went missing from a cruise. But in this case she was a crew member. Foul play was likely to have been involved in that case - more likely a dispute. But again, it was all brushed under the carpet.

This is very true.

@IShouldNotCoco it’s very obvious from what we see in the press that very few families are happy with the foreign investigations into a loved one’s death or accident whilst on holiday on land either.

I do believe that she accidentally fell in.

What I wonder though, is the lingering on the website on key dates from one IP address in Barbados. That's a bit of a conundrum.

Yeah that's weird I can only conclude that he thought Amy,s girlfriend had lead her astray and she wasent,really gay
From the Documentary we know Amy had at least two girlfriends and had kissed another girl so she clearly was gay
The 90_s were a different time im the same generation as Amy and most of my generation were very accepting of people having different sexualties to their own
But my parents generation not so much