Amy Bradley is missing (Netflix)

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Is anyone watching? I’ve read about this case before so was very interested to see they’ve made a Netflix docu-series, especially since they have her actual family/friends/real witnesses involved in it.

Ive watched one episode so far. It’s such a sad but strange and intriguing case. Her poor mum and dad.

I’d have believed she committed suicide if it weren’t for the photos. I have photos of my mum in the 90’s with similar hair, plus with the humidity and conditions, your hair would look wild. Her eyebrows, ears…that is Amy. There were more photos that the documentary didn’t show, her right ankle is cut out to not show her tattoo, and her hair looks placed to cover her right shoulder to cover the Tasmanian devil tattoo. She had one on her stomach which you can faintly see in one where she is front on nude.

This was a time before social media and the internet hadn’t blown up, that would deter abductors now but not then.

At the start I did wonder if she ran away, maybe due to her parents not accepting her sexuality but by the end I changed my mind. I don’t think she could have known her family was so devastated and not been in touch.
I honestly don’t have any theories about what happened. I am very sad for her family. It’s awful her brother didn’t have a family of his own because of this.

I think sometimes you just instinctively know when something is wrong.

Dad saw Amy on balcony and only half an hour later she was no longer there, shoes left, patio door slightly open, no note to let her family know where she’d gone (1998, common to leave notes in this way. She would have known that her family would be waking soon for disembarkation).

Her dad said that something roused him from his sleep so subconsciously he either heard her leave the room or he heard her fall overboard. All adding to his unease and panic, in fact, about the situation.

An adult missing for less than an hour wouldn’t sound like an emergency to anyone else but clearly her father had a gut feeling that something bad had happened.

"I totally agree that it doesn’t make sense to abduct a white, middle-class American woman on a holiday cruise ship for trafficking. Surely traffickers are not that stupid. They know it would make an international case and would draw police - and public attention to the region which would potentially hinder their business and restrict their activities"

She went missing in 1998. It was on the cusp of when the Internet became daily life, before smart phones and before social media.

I was late teens when she went missing, I don't recall any news stories about this and i watched the news and read the papers. I only know of this incident because its a common online 'mystery'. It perhaps would have been more newsworthy in the USA and her home state but otherwise, as harsh as it sounds, plenty of people go missing every year so why would it have been an big international newsworthy story? The reporting of Madelaine McCann, Claudia Lawrence and Sarah Everard are the exceptions- not the norm.

Fwiw I think it is most likely she fell overboard but the point is people traffickers may today prefer vulnerable/naive/gullible women but in the past it may not have been an issue as there wasn't 50 odd photos being taken at once in a cruise ship disco which could implicate them and being middle class stock doesn't guarantee your parents would go above and beyond to find their child.

It’s an awful way to look at human beings, but to them, a white middle class woman would add to their variety of women they supply - so more choice for their customers. The navy guy calling the brothel an illegal nightclub, what a euphemism. You were paying vulnerable, kidnapped women. Scum.

I have gone back and forth about what I believe happened since hearing about this case years ago, but i think a lot of information has not been reported properly and I think she most likely did fall overboard even though the ship was passing through a canal, not deep out in the ocean. I looked into this and apparently a lot of people fall off ships and their bodies are sadly never recovered.

Brad has made so much of Yellow saying ‘sorry to hear your sister is missing’ before it was reported. But Yellow would have known because the crew phoned him as soon as Amy was reported missing to ask if Amy had in fact gone in his room with him since he had been seen dancing with her.

On cruise ships there is a lot of people hooking up with other people, often in a clandestine way. Passengers and passengers, passengers and ship workers. People who are married etc. Brad himself almost got into a punch up with a guy at the nightclub because he had been dancing with a married woman. So the first thing the crew established was that Amy hadn’t gone with Yellow into his room.

Yes But they would also.be more likely to be missed than a vulnerable young women who lives a transient lifestyle.

If she fell in (mostly likely explanation) then how come there have been sightings (naval officer, woman in the washroom, diving guy), and even more convincing, those later photos of her?
I mean, it's her in those later pictures. It's definitely her.

I do not understand how a middle class white American woman has been missing for so long - it's a real puzzle

At least one person knows ‘Jas’ and says it isn’t and never was Amy.

Me too, I'm put off cruises

And the Caribbean in general. Paradise on the surfaces, drugs, trafficking and shanty towns half a mile in

She must have gone of her own accord

Or fell overboard

I personally think she went to meet someone, who then abducted her

I don’t think the photos are her at all.

There is also plenty of evidence from studies that eye witnesses are notoriously poor. People remember what they ‘think’ they remember, the reality is that people embellish/add elements/misremember things. The longer time goes on, the more skewed that ‘memory’ becomes.
I don’t believe the eye witnesses accounts happened as they believe they did.

The FBI were involved within days. People traffickers have never preferred middle-class white women with the networks to activate an investigation into their case - even before the internet.

Why have you been put off going on a cruise?

I’ve never felt unsafe on one and of the 36.4 million people who went on a cruise last year very few didn’t make it home due to any reason, let alone because of being murdered on board or getting drunk and falling over board.

On cruise ships there is a lot of people hooking up with other people, often in a clandestine way. Passengers and passengers, passengers and ship workers. People who are married etc.

Im laughing at this because never once have I seen Sodom and Gomorrah advertised as a port of call on my cruise itinerary. 🤣

Maybe I should have asked for my money back. 🤣

I thought the cruise manager was so odd and insensitive that I wondered if he had some involvement.

I believe she could have Stockholm syndrome and is stuck there after having children with one of her captors.

I’ve just been watching an interview with her brother on YouTube and he isn’t personally convinced that the photos are Amy. He says the nose is different and you can’t see her tattoos. He also said that they couldn’t try to book an appointment with ‘Jas’ to track her down because all they received were the actual photos and no information about where they came from.

You seem to be derisive of anyone who says something about cruises that you don’t want to hear. I have relatives who worked on cruise ships. People hook up on holiday whatever the situation if that’s what they’re looking for (and of course not everyone will be).

I don’t know why so many people call the cruise manager odd and insensitive. To me he acted normal and factual. He probably managed cruise ships for long years, maybe decades and encountered tens of thousands of passengers. He can’t possibly develop deep emotional ties to all of them because this is not his job. When Amy went missing it was still very early to conclude that she was dead or kidnapped, so he just tried to go on about his usual duties and make sure that all the other passengers could enjoy their time on and off the ship.
Imagine if he prevents thousands of passengers from disembarking the ship because a young girl cannot be found anywhere, but later she emerges from a male passenger’s cabin hungover and half naked, obviously having enjoyed a good night’s romp and snorting cocaine or whatever. It would be deeply unprofessional, he would most likely be fired from his job, and all those thousands of passengers would want their money back. As someone mentioned earlier, all kind of shenanigans happen on cruise ships, relationships formed, sexual encounters, drunken nights etc…early on in this case probably everybody thought that Amy probably did one of these things, simply because it is very common behaviour from passengers.

Imo he treated the whole thing with disdain and was giggling at some memories
I don't expect him to have deep emotional ties to Amy and her family but a little compassion to the fact something terrible happened wouldn't go amiss.

I agree @yallahbye Imagine making an announcement over the speaker and shutting down the ship for a 22 year old woman who had been missing for an hour or two at that point, and whose parents had admitted had been drinking all night. That probably happens all the time

No. She doesn’t have an entirely made up “syndrome” designed to discredit women who are survivors of violence.

https://cryingoutforjustice.blog/2015/06/03/the-myth-of-stockholm-syndrome-and-how-it-was-invented-to-silence-an-indignant-young-woman/

Imagine if he shuts down the ship to discover a woman is being held against her will by a member of his own staff.

But he didn’t even have to do that. A tannoy announcement would have been irritating for passengers but would have been a good first step. Next, having staff manning the exits, checking as passengers left the ship would have been an option.

The suggestion that he couldn’t shut down the ship so him doing nothing at all was ok, is laughable. If it were your daughter would you be ok with that. If it had been his daughter would he have done something different? He treated her parents appallingly.

It doesn’t work like that. I just explained why.
Btw I’m sure the exits were manned, they always are, you can’t just exit a cruise ship without anyone managing the entry and exit points. So then how did she leave without anyone noticing? You think someone held a gun at her and marched her down the passenger plank without anyone seeing it? Or she was drugged? But then she couldn’t have walked, and it would have been noticed anyway.
The smuggling her off the ship theory is inherently flawed.

Next, having staff manning the exits, checking as passengers left the ship would have been an option.

Unless you have been on a cruise you would not realise how strict they are with entry and exit of the ship. It is protocol for ships. You carry an ID card, as you leave, it is scanned and every single time, your face pops up on the screen in front of them, they look at you to check it and off you go.
Now... whether at this point her name was passed through to the security personnel, I do not know. But they would 100% know if she had left the ship. There is one point of exit and entry, only one. You don't just wander off the ship

If she had left, it would've had to have been through the loading bay or something