MAFSAUS Thread 11 - (No Spoilers!): Dodgy dates with alternative mates, fast talking liars should have their plums squeezed with pliers, Wacqui Jacqui has gone off the rails, this season is full of relationship fails.

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Place your best on who’s going to survive final vows.

Rhi & Jeff

Er yeah that’s it.

Yes I thought that awhina looked like she had been crying. I hope she is seeing sense finally. Adrian is incredibly frustrating.

Slightly off topic, however, I’ve noticed Carina and Rhi have both attended the meal with a ‘wet hair look’ and I’m wondering if anyone knows what the product may be as I’d like to try it? I’m sure I won’t pull it off like those two stunners and I’ll just look like I’ve been caught in monsoon!

Rhi definitely pulled it off better than Carina, she has too much hair for it to work.

Trying to wrap my head around Dave thinking Paul’s out of order for meeting another match out of curiosity, before dashing back to Carina. But Jamie did the same thing to him (as did Ryan and Jacqui to each other) and that’s not a problem? 🤨

And while Awhina felt she failed, it helped her get some perspective on how little Adrian cares.

Awhina needs to open her eyes and realise that Adrian is in it for a good time, not a long time, and definitely not interesting in leaving Sydney.

Yeah, I misread the pp as ‘who Paul goes to for wellness advice’ 😄 Hadn’t clocked that he was a wellness advisor till tonight!

Way too much Paul tonight. Just fuck off with your fake crying and shite hair.

i hope Ryan and Jacqui stay together because it keeps two other people safe from them.

Adrian only stuck around for the free holiday after Awhina met his awful family and was ready to dump him. She needs to cut her losses.

I think Jacqui and Ryan are all about winning. Sadly, I don't think Ryan has any idea of the depths of Jacqui!

I missed Wednesdays episode so don’t understand why everyone is fine with Jamie meeting her other person. Dave seems totally relaxed about it. How come?

I think Dave was fine with it because it took the focus off himself, and because he doesn’t really have deep feelings for her ( I’m still not buying his recent ‘turnaround’). I think his overriding feeling towards her is still that he is intimidated by her!

Also, Jamie's date never turned up!

Don't forget that not once has Jamie ever done anything that would have hinted at infidelity or of having let Dave down in another way. The rest of them though...

I think they’re all piling on Paul because his and Carina’s relationship was supposedly good. Also because her morals are obvious to the others- she’s very loyal and expects that back. She was so bothered by the partner swap.
With Jaimie and Dave, they are not secure and Dave has given Jaimie reason to doubt so I don’t blame her and neither does he.

Luckily I’ve never met a man like Paul. Just watching him make excuses and say sorry like it should all go away makes me so uncomfortable. I like Carina’s silent treatment, it’s quite powerful . I just hope she sticks with her gut feeling.
Paul is violent 🚩
Paul is a liar 🚩
Paul has a wandering eye 🚩

Far too much Carina and Paul tonight - so
dull going over the same thing constantly. I’m probably a lone voice here but I find Jeff and Rhi incredibly boring and Jeff particularly is so smug. Also it was a task - like Jamie, I think I’d have gone out of curiosity too so can’t see the issue tbh.

Oh the pile on for Paul is totally justified. He should have been kicked off for punching the wall. I was just wondering if I’d missed something re Jamie & Dave - seems not.

Carina hasn’t seen what we saw. Paul was straight up for it and was sleazy . No thought for Caroina . Jaimie was more transparent about being nosey plus she’s been hurt and her security isn’t there.

Rhi and Jeff are lovely. Just wish she’d lay offf the Botox then her face may have more expression.

Yesterday has to win the prize for most boring episode of all time? After 20 min of pre-dinner filler, we then had 20 min of Paul justifying himself. I can't be the only one who finds him and Carina really boring, despite the "high drama"? Honestly my eyes were glazing over. It was just the same argument for a full 20, and I just wasn't invested at all.

Also, I like Jamie, but i think her whole chirpy "I'm just a curious sod, me!" act was really disingenuous. How was her decision any different to Paul's?

I don't see a problem with Adrian. He's been blunt from the start. He needs to learn to soften his delivery but ultimately he has never bullshitted Awhina, a la Dave, has he? He told her from week 1 he wasn't sure whether he could handle stepping in for someone's kid. Last night he clearly told her he would potentially move across the country for the right person and at this stage, he couldn't say whether that was really her. When pushed, he gave her a flat "no". It hurts and it's brutal, he could have been gentler in how he said it, but he isn't future faking her. I think Awhina is so upset because there are a lot of people who will be going to final vows with sham relationships, unfortunately Adrian has broken the news to her ahead of time. Maybe she was hoping to get that final vow big moment.

@CuttedPearPieI completely agree about Adrian.

You can just tell with Paul that all the hand-wringing and high emotion are to disguise his complete rage that Carina isn’t forgiving him and moving on already. You can tell that he isn’t genuinely remorseful or has actually taken the time to think about how Carina actually feels. It’s all just irritation for him that she’s making such a big deal about it. I genuinely believe that if this relationship wasn’t played out on international television that he’d be talking with his fists.

I agree

I have liked Awhina but I’ve absolutely no sympathy for her at this point. She’ll have a string of crap men in and out of that child’s life.

I think Awhina has been making up for the time she lost having settled down with her high school boyfriend and having a baby at a young age. That's why she stayed for couples' retreat and then glossed over all the poor behaviour. But she's being forced to face reality now the fun's over.

Where do I look? Daren't search anything as I don't want any other spoilers to pop up!