Celebrity Big Brother (ITV) and Late and Live (ITV2) - Thread 4 - Please expect spoilers.

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Michael Fabricant was the first to be evicted, and his exit was followed by Mickey Rourke who was asked to leave, due to his misogynistic behaviour

Second evictee, third out is Trisha! Jack and Patsy were saved by the public, in a vote to save.

So, Ella is pissed off with Chris for not wanting to do a showmance with her. She also dislikes Jojo. She also seemingly has a penchant for bitching.

Daley has finally got some airtime. He's sick of the Chris and Jojo show, and hates that they know how to play the reality tv game.

The housemates are on an economy shopping budget. Chris just wanted spaghetti hoops, which hes got, but there aren't any snacks or biscuits. Chesney, the survivor of a 'drugs hell' thought he was getting artisan bread from CBB, but was mistaken.

Speaking of Chesney, he's been spanked at a club by a muscly gay, and has been spotted by Donna at a swingers/sex party of some kind 🤭

Chris and Jojo are very touchy feely. The label for their behaviour is up for debate - some, like myself, think that they're flirting, others think that they're playing up to the cameras and are just mates. Do share your opinion.

(Also, apparently Jojo wrote on Chris' hand that she's bi.) Following this, Jojo thinks that she might be non-binary. Unsure of the correct pronouns at the time of typing this.

Donna is sick of everyone. Danny thinks that Patsy is playing a game.

The house is kind of split as follows:
Jack, Chris and Jojo
Everyone else

Late and Live on ITV2 is a bit hit and miss. They've got Tiffany, of 'David's dead' fame, and they aren't afraid to reference it every 5 mins. Expect chaos.

It was impossible to avoid spoilers, so please expect them. We love chatting about seasons past and the celebs in general, so expect a fast moving thread 🙌🙌

Here's the link to thread 3:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/telly_addicts/5314081-celebrity-big-brother-itv1-and-late-live-itv2-thread-3-please-expect-spoilers?page=40&reply=143575057

Thread 2:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/telly_addicts/5311905-celebrity-big-brother-thread-2?page=1

Thread 1:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/telly_addicts/5307304-celebrity-big-brother-starts-mon-7th-april-on-itv?page=1

Enjoy 🥰

Does anyone remember when patsy walked out of an interview on morning tv. I can’t remember why and it wasn’t that long ago but I wish she was that feisty and interesting on cbb.

I mean all those elements you'd assume would make an interesting story?

I really like Daley too

I feel like, in the back my mind, i do

Was it with piers Morgan? What happened 😄😄

No way really?

I've downloaded the app especially to vote for Daley. Not only because he was my first crush when I was 12 😍 but because Patsy is really annoying me. She's coming across as so arrogant. Daley is the most normal / likeable one in there imo.

Yes it was on GMTV i think with Susanna Reid. It was a satellite interview. I think they introduced her on the tv writing bit as ‘former drug addict’.
Patsy saw it written and refused to do the interview.
it was a couple of days/weeks after piers morgan had stormed off set.

Just googled but unable to link it. It was on gmb, patsy was at home in the US and was being interviewed by Ben Shepherd and Susanna Reid who were in the studio. Patsy took umbrage at being described on the screen as ‘from addict to wellness guru’, told them off and shut down her laptop.

I completely agree with this & struggling to see how anyone could see otherwise?!! Patsy said nothing wrong about brown sugar & yet Anjelica seemed to take offence. She’s definitely not a Patsy fan!

I’m also with Patsy in the ‘scum’ comments - married men sliding into a young girl’s DMs is grim. Ella only said he wasn’t married after Patsy made the ‘scum’ comments & her comments weren’t directed at Ella but at the married man!

I’m gutted Daley is up as he just doesn’t give a shit & he’s totally chill! Wish Chris was up & Jack again!

I’m loving Donna - how she got Daley to straighten her hair & good on him for trying! Not a Chris fan, but I loved how he naturally took over & did a good job!

But she definitely said 'we're not scum of the earth'

I'm so confused what she meant by we then

😭 okay yeah I remember

I remember being firmly on her side, now I just find her unbearable

I took it that she was calling ella scum of the earth

She wasn’t calling Ella scum at all, but the married man for sliding in. Ella did seem to relish saying he was married though until it was clear Patsy wasn’t impressed & then changed it to saying it was before he was married.

But she didn't

She said we're not scum of the earth

Patsy seemed concerned about the wife, so I assume she’s been cheated on (or someone close to her has).

Just seen Chris taking a pee on L&L - that’s fucking disgusting!

Danny saying non-disabled actors shouldn’t play disabled parts or straight actors shouldn’t play LGBT characters & yet he makes his money from parodying women - fucking hypocritical! Put me right off him & especially for how he went for Daley! Danny was one of my favourites but I’m not a fan anymore!

I do think that’s a ridiculous stance to have re actors. Acting is their job and that’s what they do. I think any person - able bodied or otherwise - would find portraying Christie Brown nigh on impossible which is why what Daniel Day Lewis did with the role in My Left Foot was a brilliant example, so well done, Daley, for flagging that.

Edited to say: a whole lot of acting is observing, empathising and expression. It’s not about just ‘being’. There is a need to connect with an audience. Leave the rest for documentaries.

I agree @ConstantlyFuriosa

Tiffany is hilarious on L&L - I’m still loving her tonight!

The repeated talk of sexuality and gender is really grating on me. Yes, we know JJ is gay, she manages to mention it at least once an episode, even in her nomination. Nobody cares surely?

Then the 'thinking out loud' (on national television) about whether she is non binary?! Firstly there's no such thing (sorry if anybody is offended, but let's face it, it's a fact). She just seems attention seeking. Also the NB thought seemed to be a cover up for whatever secret messages her and Chris were doing.

Ella seems so miserable and seeks offence in everything. Blatantly fancied Chris at the beginning and was jealous.

L&L is woke AF and that Pollard woman is disgusting so I've stopped watching that.

Maybe I'm just in a bad mood, or I'm going off the show altogether, I don't know.

Honestly the non binary shit is so fucking boring, save it for your navel, Jojo.

Oh my god did he say words to this effect?? I missed a doozy (as my OH says) tonight

@SoMentallyDrained I'm with you, it's boring "I'm xyz.." Jaysus Jo just be FFS.. might be the world she's in/used to & I normally never make excuses for this shite but she seems nearly indoctrinated into this pan/non binary bullshit, like it's her USP

also @ConstantlyFuriosa ✊

There was an uproar about a non disabled person playing a character in a wheelchair in glee many years ago. However some of his dream sequences was him walking etc. They couldn't do that with an actual disabled person.

And the guy who played the son in breaking bad does have cerebal palsy but played it worse for the show.

He did @Scorchio84Daley was quite cool & bemused by it & kept saying it was acting, not someone’s lived experience. Danny also referenced colour/race & Daley said he wasn’t bothered about who played what (can’t remember exactly he said)& Danny told him that Daley had to remember he was speaking from a position of privilege!!WTF!!

Then Danny said something like ‘we’re not really in a position to have an opinion’ and again Daley looked totally bemused & said ‘well we were talking about race’ Looked like then Danny realised Daley was black and said ‘oh yeah’ or something to that effect.

Daley was totally calm & bemused throughout the discussion & just kept making his very valid points. I just wish he’d asked Danny how he reconciled the words coming out of his mouth with what Danny himself did to make a living!