Stacey & Joe - BBC 1

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On in about 15 mins, anyone planning to watch?

Anyone who’s had both would pick teenage boys.

Wow what a sweeping statement! You actually think all boys are shits and girls are angels?

I had one of each. Daughter, never a moment's stress. Son? Son is a bit like Joe. Means well but finds it hard to focus on anything. It's hard to live with.

It appears that many of Joe’s problems and issues are around what happened to his dad and the fact he was there when he passed away so suddenly and nobody was aware it was going to happen.
There is generally a bit of a process to someone passing away ( or you can brace yourself for it a bit ) , but this was such a shock to him aged 12 and he clearly can’t process it , even 30 years on.
Plus his AdHD too. It’s obviously manifested by him being like he is sometimes ( is my uneducated view of his situation, only from seeing how he was with the therapist )
He didn’t seem to understand that Stacey was being nice about him and giving him praise. He just saw it all as her being negative about him as well.

Yes, lots of unresolved issues there. Death and grief are our last taboos for discussion, it's obvious he's never addressed his childhood with any depth and has internalised feelings of blame and inadequacy to the extent that he now expects people to view him in this way whether they do or not. It's sad and not uncommon. I wish them well and hope he sticks with therapy. He doesn't understand himself yet. It would help.

He didn’t seem to understand that Stacey was being nice about him and giving him praise. He just saw it all as her being negative about him as well.

I agree. I think his mind is racing so much that he's hearing "you're off doing this" and speculating when, trying to remember, trying to work out what that means, can he change, so that he misses hearing "you're a great Dad".

I think Stacey sometimes delivers a shit sandwich of you're great, but this is bad, but you're great.

They might both benefit from slowing down. Stacey could tell him how great he is and let him digest that and feel valued. And maybe later say how she feels when he's unreliable.

I am really enjoying watching them. I thought Zach was a brilliant example of showing the bravado of a teenage boy along with his anxiety about being an extra and then his joy at achieving what was asked of him. It's like watching someone grow in real time.

Joe could have done with some counselling after his dad died. It probably wasn’t suggested back then.

He didn’t seem to understand that Stacey was being nice about him and giving him praise. He just saw it all as her being negative about him as well

A big part of ADHD can be Rejection Sensitive Dysphoria, that's what it looked like to me when they were at the counselling

That makes sense because of the physical discomfort he was feeling.

I'm loving this whole series.

Joe was AMAZING with the kids in the classroom, and brilliant at talking to people. People like being around him... energetic, caring, fun, good laugh.

Stacey has too much on her plate. An absolutely gem of a girl.

They have money. She needs to spend it on help in the house and a nanny. Take the pressure off her relationship with Joe.

I think she's got Joe in counselling so he wakes up and helps carry the load. That's never going to happen...not through counselling anyway. She needs to just let Joe be Joe and get the help she needs from nanny/cleaner etc

I think she's got Joe in counselling so he wakes up and helps carry the load. That's never going to happen...not through counselling anyway. She needs to just let Joe be Joe and get the help she needs from nanny/cleaner etc

I would assume they've got a cleaner (Euan from SYLO? 😅). I'm pretty sure with the size of that house, and their busy lives, they won't be doing the cleaning themselves

🤣 yes Ur right! Maybe a nanny then👍 too much for Stacey with her career.

@TheTigerWhoCameToBrunchI haven't taken your comment personally, you are simply just wrong.

She has help,there's no way she could do what she does without it. She has a PA who I bet does a lot of childcare and her parents fulfill the roll of a nanny. I'd be my bottom dollar there will be a cleaner /gardener too.

Just jumping in I have only caught snippets of this but did catch the episode of him with the school kids

Joe was AMAZING with the kids in the classroom @Doubledenim305
Totally agree. He was fantastic. He instantly built their trust and got them talking about things such as their own neurodiversity and how it impacts them and also how they are bullied. When he had the instant insight to tell the boy that was being bullied that there is nothing wrong with him he doesn't need to change the bullies' are at fault I was very impressed. As someone who works with young people and has run programmes in quite disadvantaged schools this kind of openness does not come easy. He needs to do more of this he would be brilliant and have such a great impact

I've been enjoying it so far - is next week the last episode?

30 years ago when Joe was at school, I don't think ADHD was really recognised (certainly not where I was teaching). Kids like Joe were just seen as disruptive and wasting their education (not my opinion obviously but recollections from the time).
It was great to see him in the classroom with the kids who he could really relate to. I wonder if his discomfort in the counselling sessions maybe stems from his childhood, having to deal with the devastation of losing his dad so suddenly and his ADHD as I doubt there would have been much help available to him then.

Seems like tonight was the last in the series.

Found it super interesting how Stacey was explaining about Shabbat.

Nice one tonight , they seem so happy.
It is sad when your teenagers don’t want to do the family things anymore, but she handled it well.
They are a lovely lively family and I’ve enjoyed all the episodes.

Me too. Not a programme I'd have sought out but lazily left bbc1 on a few weeks ago and I've fallen for it. Made a really pleasant half hour. I'll miss it.

Lovely, lovely show. And really wonderful that they show how much a working mother has to do, even if she's got a lot of money.

I really enjoyed tonight's. Joe made me laugh over his panto costume, and it was lovely how excited they all were to see him performing.
And the love they both have of being with their huge extended families is heartwarming.

Absolutely love this show. Can’t wait for the next season.

I've also enjoyed it! I was in a foul mood when I turned it on last night and that just evaporated...
In reality Joe would drive me bonkers, he's the opposite of me, but they both seem genuine people. I've always liked Stacey. Her house is amazing - I wonder how far from 'civilisation' it is as does seem like they have no near neighbours.

So pleased there is going to be a second season. Pure joy watching this.

They seem to live ‘ in the wilds ‘ of Essex!
My guess, based on nothing much , is it must be Epping or Ongar way in Essex , but no real idea. Probably one of those little places that have a cute sign post that is hand carved at the front of its main lane!