The Traitors #3

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Continued discussion for season 3 of The Traitors

I get that it might get annoying, but to be fair it's what the producers want! They know that people will be looking for links after the relationships in S1 and S2 so they are editing to encourage people to look for things that may (or may not) be there. People instinctively look for patterns: we (the viewers) are playing the game just as much as the players.

On the contrary, I think Fozia has every characteristic that gets you banished: intelligent and astute, kind, brown skin. I don’t think she’ll be in the game for long, which is a shame because I really like the little we’ve seen of her so far

Plea to Traitors producers for Season 4 - more Fozias and fewer mediocre white men next time please!

Is it not easy to surmise who are faithful by looking at who are the last 2 people to enter at breakfast?

Episode 1

Traitors 3: Yin (m), 2 others who walked in last to breakfast are faithful.

Episode 2

Traitors 3: Keith (m), 2 others who walked in last to breakfast are faithful.

Traitors 3: Elen (m), 2 others who walked in last to breakfast are faithful.

Episode 3

None

Episode 4
Traitors 3: Maia, 2 others
Last 2 to walk into breakfast - Freddie and Charlotte are faithful.

The Traitors put up 3 names for the chop. The last two that walk in last to breakfast are faithful.

Someone upthread said a former contestant has said that the breakfast scene is shot a few times and heavily edited. So it won't play out like we see it, with the three possible murders being left until last.

I think the Faithful need you in the Castle Bobby
Great insight there!

By asking for volunteers to leave the train coaches, the three kindest people probably left before they reached the castle, maybe why the group has not been as nice?

To be honest, in the vanishingly unlikely eventuality that I ended up in The Traitors, having watched the first two series, I'd think there was a reasonably strong chance that the people getting off the train would be back before long. So I might have taken a gamble on that. (Would not have paid off for Jack, admittedly!)

I agree with a lot of people here who say this series isn’t grabbing me as much as previous ones. During last night’s episode I was finding everyone really annoying apart from Minah and Kas. And Kas is gone now. I’m not really rooting for anyone.

I don't think the 3 chose out of kindness to leave the carriages in episode 1. Alexander played devil's advocate, noone else wanted to put their name in the hat so to speak and so he had no choice as he'd already offered. Jack and Fozia both did it on a 50/50 risk that something good may come to them for their sacrifice.
I think the task highlighted the unlikeable traits in others who adamantly said no I.e Tyler and Armani

Fozia strikes me as a doer. I don’t think she necessarily thought something good would come to her for leaving the carriage, she just couldn’t sit there and watch people do nothing. Which was borne out on her first time at the round table, where she spoke up for Kasim.

You say that they are already people very much in play, but that's only because of what has been edited into the programme we are actually seeing. They producers will already know who the traitors decide to go for at the end of each episode, so it makes sense that that episode shows more of those faithfuls than others.

Likewise Linda in the traitors huddle at the end - we only think she says very little of note, but that is only because of what we are being shown. I reckon there's plenty of discussion that we don't get to know about.

I mean, they are all in the castle / playing the game for 12+ hours a day, and those hours are condensed into a 1-hour programme.

Plea to Traitors producers for Season 4 - more Fozias and fewer mediocre white men next time please!

why ? we don't know Fozia yet. I

Presumably they're all being filmed the whole time they're in the castle and in the cars going to and from the tasks. No chance to speak to anyone else outside those times because when they're taken back to their accommodation, it's one person per car? Ditto in the morning. Somebody on the previous thread said there was tight security in the hotel to prevent them from communicating. Now envisaging something like a cross between Premier Inn and Colditz!

No, but I don't think anybody is having any difficulty distinguishing her from everybody else.

She has only been I the castle for one day, but she is by far more likeable and perceptive than those mediocre men.

If the person they tried to recruit turns it down, surely that would be a get out of jail card for them (I'm looking at Anna and Freddie)? They turn up to breakfast, nobody is murdered and they explain they were asked to be a Traitor? Surely that would convince some of the Faithful they are telling the truth? (Unless the Faithful allege a double bluff of course).

Ok, so I just watched episode 4. And in between watching episodes 3 and 4, I somehow binged on the Australian Traitors and now I’ve came back to the Uk version I can see it is sooo different how people react!

The Australians very much took it as a game from start to finish , but this episode on the Uk traitors so many were getting annoyed and angry and tearful.

I don’t know if it’s usually like that? The contrast was interesting though.

Armani didn’t play the game well at all and as Mina said she was doing too much! Mina is brilliant and this is off topic, but she has such a great natural (?) looking smile! I’d love teeth likes hers lol

Yeah it was strange to hear Kas had been ostracised, I didn’t hear many people deny it when he said it so unless it was edited out it may well be the case. He definitely looked uncomfortable walking around.

As Fozia said , people need to remember this is just a game. Even if he is the traitor why ostracise him?

I think he didn’t react great at the last roundtable though by essentially hinting that people were likening him to a Harold shipman type person? I didn’t get that.

I think what people were meaning by it’s perfect that a doctor would be a traitor, is the idea that doctors are trustworthy and are associated with keeping people alive ie. Nice people . So subconsciously you might not suspect them and therefore that’s why he was chosen to be a traitor.

I can’t believe the nerve of that guy to criticise Kas for “toying” with them at the end before he revealed he was a faithful lol

Yeah it was quite odd , I’ve just binged that - series one. He was called Paul and sounded like he was British. He lasted until near the end but you rarely see him.

I also read he kept swearing on his families life that he wasn’t a traitor, which you’re apparently not supposed to do.

I think he didn’t react great at the last roundtable though by essentially hinting that people were likening him to a Harold shipman type person? I didn’t get that.

The Harold Shipman comment was in response to one of the men saying at the round table that Kasim was a doctor by day and a killer by night.

Hmm…Still don’t really get it. Harold shipman from what I recall was a doctor ‘by day” who also killed “by day” in the course of his duties.
Seemed OTT to bring his name into it.

I think most people hearing “killer doctor” would think Harold Shipman tbh. I imagine it’s something that most decent doctors would be quite sensitive about - as obviously he’s not representative of the entire profession - so I can understand Kas saying that…Jake?… was making him out to be like that

There aren’t that many famous killer doctors, so Harold Shipman comes to most people’s minds when you think of a killer doctor.

The only other one I can think of is Dr Crippen but I doubt many would think of him as he killed people’s over 100 years ago 🤣

Yes, I imagine doctors take the Hippocratic oath very seriously.

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/traitors-harold-shipman-who-b2673670.html#:~:text=The%20reference%20to%20Shipman%2C%20Britain's,Shipman'%20has%20sent%20me%20west.

I just googled it to see what others were saying online as I don’t have Twitter or Facebook or anything and a lot of other people think it was a bit left field too.

From the article : an additional viewer chimed in: “Anyone have a Harold Shipman reference on Traitors on their bingo card?” with one more person calling it “the wildest thing I’ve heard in a while”

Glad it’s not just me 😵‍💫 I mean I watch a lot of true crime but even my mind didn’t go there. I guess we are all different but I found it bizarre! 😂.