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Appreciation For The 1990s Pride And Prejudice

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EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 27/12/2024 18:45

It's never been equalled as novel adaptations go!! Everyone is perfect !

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ACatCalledPuss · 03/01/2025 17:02

It's unreal. I remember I was on my year out from uni in France when it was first televised and my mum bought me the box set. I still watch it every year.

Guavafish1 · 03/01/2025 17:14

I think she is a great over bearing middle class mother

MissRoseDurward · 03/01/2025 17:28

Though her sister marries an untitled man, and Lady C also marries down.

Though in wealth and character, Mr Darcy senior appears to have been superior to many men of higher social rank. Sir Walter Elliot, for example.

laplage · 03/01/2025 21:14

I came across this short film on YouTube recently and thought it very good.
I hope it's okay to post

cariadlet · 03/01/2025 21:38

Lunde · 03/01/2025 16:34

Yes Mrs Bennet married up - daughter of a tradesman (solicitor) marrying into the gentry

Lady Catherine married down - she was the daughter of an Earl but her husband was Sir Lewis de Bourgh (it's not specified whether he was a Baronet or a Knight) a lower level of nobility. Lady C's daughter has no courtesy title and is simply Miss Anne de Bourgh.

Agree that Mrs Bennett married up but a solicitor would have been very offended to have been called a tradesman.

Surely, her father would have considered himself to be a member of the professional class and so socially superior to tradespeople. He would have used the front door to call on any members of the gentry who were his clients rather than going round to the back door or tradesman's entrance.

FabulousPharmacyst · 03/01/2025 22:00

ShesNotACowShesAFox · 01/01/2025 20:25

I’m alway sacred to say this on Austen threads..but can I put this opinion out there <dons tin hat>

Alan Rickman was creepy as Colonel Brandon.

Joins you on parapet.

agreed.

flees scene

ShesNotACowShesAFox · 03/01/2025 22:03

FabulousPharmacyst · 03/01/2025 22:00

Joins you on parapet.

agreed.

flees scene

The way he whispers into Margaret’s ear “The air is filled with spices” makes me want to get in touch with the actress to check she’s ok after that scene

FabulousPharmacyst · 03/01/2025 22:23

ShesNotACowShesAFox · 03/01/2025 22:03

The way he whispers into Margaret’s ear “The air is filled with spices” makes me want to get in touch with the actress to check she’s ok after that scene

😂🫣

HotBath · 04/01/2025 00:12

cariadlet · 03/01/2025 21:38

Agree that Mrs Bennett married up but a solicitor would have been very offended to have been called a tradesman.

Surely, her father would have considered himself to be a member of the professional class and so socially superior to tradespeople. He would have used the front door to call on any members of the gentry who were his clients rather than going round to the back door or tradesman's entrance.

Mrs Bennet’s father was a smalltown attorney, probably dealing mostly with property and business — that would only have made him middle-class, a rung below the minor landed gentry Bennets. Different to being a barrister like John Knightley, which made you a ‘gentleman’ (Mary Crawford wants Edmund Bertram to become a barrister). The barrister/attorney distinction a big social distinction within what you might broadly term ‘law’, just like the difference between ‘physician’ (gentleman) and ‘surgeon’ ( not a gentleman) in the same period.

Lunde · 04/01/2025 00:27

The professional middle class was not strongly developed until the Victorian era. There were only really 3 professions considered respectable for a gentleman in Regency era - the military, the clergy and the Law but only if you were a barrister (gentleman of law) - solicitors/attorneys were considered lower class which is why Miss Bingley makes barbed comments about Mr Phillips.

An irony that Miss Bingley was so disparaging given that her own ties to trade were much stronger than the Bennets.

upinaballoon · 04/01/2025 12:06

upinaballoon · 03/01/2025 11:14

"If I had ever learnt, I should have been a great proficient. And so would Anne, if her health had allowed her to apply. I am confident that she would have performed delightfully.............................." Can't you just hear Lady C's voice saying it?

Dear Miss Austen, did you really start a sentence with 'and'? In the 20th century I was taught that I ought not to do that.

Dear Miss Jane Austen,

It has been pointed out that Miss Austen was your sister Cassandra, and you were Miss Jane. I do know this really because my father explained it all many years ago. It does seem a bit 'familiar' to call you Jane and that thought has caused me to want to look in the book to see what Mr. Darcy says in the letter to Lizzie. It's something like, 'Be not alarmed, madam...' but I will check in a few minutes.

It has also been pointed out that when you started a sentence with 'and' you were reporting Lady C's words and not starting a sentence of your own.

I have duly noted both points

AliceMcK · 08/01/2025 22:30

Its my go to sad/sick/rainy day series, I can watch it over and over, it just makes me so happy.

JewelleryCat · 27/01/2025 21:16

Anyone going to watch Miss Austen when it airs on bbc?

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 27/01/2025 21:30

I'm really not sure about it to be honest

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HappyHolidai · 27/01/2025 21:59

I'm not convinced either but I expect I will watch it anyway. 😀

JewelleryCat · 27/01/2025 22:31

I’m going to watch it, see what it’s like

APurpleSquirrel · 27/01/2025 23:51

I'm going to watch it. Currently on s3 of Sanditon & rereading Northanger Abbey.
Found out this year is the 250th birthday of Jane Austen.

Crackers4cheese · 28/01/2025 05:44

on this day in 1813 pride and prejudice was published

JewelleryCat · 28/01/2025 09:58

Crackers4cheese · 28/01/2025 05:44

on this day in 1813 pride and prejudice was published

My calculator says that was 212 years ago. That’s amazing

Hoolahoophop · 28/01/2025 12:08

I'll be watching. I read the book last year and it was very enjoyable. I am sure it is one persons view of what Cassandra and her family were like, so be taken with a pinch of salt. But I enjoyed it so will hopefully enjoy watching.

I am reading Lucy Worsley's biography at the moment, and her interpretation of the family is very different from the picture in the Miss Austen story. But again, all biographers are a bit biased and Lucy Worsley see's Jane Austen's actions through her lens.

Its really fascinating, when there is so little reliable first hand information about a person, we can make them whoever we want them to be.

Still, I love Jane, because I love her books and she undoubtably worked very hard to make them. So I will watch anything remotely related to her world, either to fall in love again, or to complain relentlessly that they are wrong!

LIZS · 28/01/2025 12:25

Looking forward to Miss Austen , also read it recently. Have tickets for the opening of the Winchester house n the summer, not sure if sold out yet.

HotBath · 28/01/2025 12:40

Hoolahoophop · 28/01/2025 12:08

I'll be watching. I read the book last year and it was very enjoyable. I am sure it is one persons view of what Cassandra and her family were like, so be taken with a pinch of salt. But I enjoyed it so will hopefully enjoy watching.

I am reading Lucy Worsley's biography at the moment, and her interpretation of the family is very different from the picture in the Miss Austen story. But again, all biographers are a bit biased and Lucy Worsley see's Jane Austen's actions through her lens.

Its really fascinating, when there is so little reliable first hand information about a person, we can make them whoever we want them to be.

Still, I love Jane, because I love her books and she undoubtably worked very hard to make them. So I will watch anything remotely related to her world, either to fall in love again, or to complain relentlessly that they are wrong!

The David Nokes and Claire Tomalin biographies are by far the best, imo. Read alongside her letters.

Though I think my favourite book about Austen is Maggie Lane’s Jane Austen and Food, which is very illuminating and both scholarly and great fun on food in the novels (why are the Longbourn and Netherfield breakfasts at such different times so that Lizzie has time to get Jane’s letter after her own breakfast, walk three miles cross country , and arrive at Netherfield to find the Bingleys and Darcy still eating breakfast? What is it about Colonel Brandon’s gardens that suggests implicit sensual happiness for Marianne? Why is Mr Hurst shocked when Lizzie prefers a plain dish to a ragout?) and on Austen’s life and food production, cooking, eating at balls etc.

Shetlands · 08/02/2025 12:12

As I expect you all know, it's the 250th anniversary of Jane Austen's birth this year and also the 30th anniversary of the BBC's 1995 production of Pride & Prejudice (by far the best film/TV adaption IMO). https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0074r75/pride-and-prejudice-episode-1

To mark this anniversary, there's a wonderful, new interview with P&P's costume designer Dinah Collin on youtube, which you might enjoy.

HappyHolidai · 09/02/2025 18:00

JewelleryCat · 27/01/2025 21:16

Anyone going to watch Miss Austen when it airs on bbc?

Have now watched it. I don't know a lot of the detail of Austen's life and haven't read the book it's based on.

I did quite enjoy it, though it was a bit slow at times. Very good on sisterly relationships, I thought - all 3 sets convincing and different.

Was the surgeon in real life mixed race? I assume middle class people would have had strong prejudices then about that, though it was only the social position of his mother that was mentioned.

SpikyHatePotato · 15/02/2025 00:03

Saw this today (and yes, I know the quote is wrong Grin)

Appreciation For The 1990s Pride And Prejudice
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