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EastEnders: the SPOILERS thread!

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Southeastdweller · 06/09/2024 09:42

Welcome to the EastEnders spoilers thread, where we post and talk about any EE spoilers we've read about, including those in early release episodes on iPlayer.

Link below to watch episodes on BBC iPlayer - these are usually dropped at 6am on broadcast days - and you can read brief synopses of upcoming episodes:

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006m86d

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Meredusoleil · 13/10/2024 13:12

Have to agree! Such a pretty face but unpleasant character 😐

Meredusoleil · 13/10/2024 13:15

Just read the link posted earlier on. What a hypocrite Penny is! So much for her facing the consequences of her actions when she smuggled drugs into the country via Lauren 🙄🤦‍♀️😯

Meredusoleil · 13/10/2024 13:16

Also, ultimately, Penny should not have left herself logged onto the website on the laptop. That is her responsibility, not Chelsea's!

Shellingbynight · 13/10/2024 13:18

And (while we're at it!) the only reason Chelsea wanted to 'ruin' the night was because Penny deliberately lost Chelsea her job, and then treated her like a servant.

Arconialiving · 13/10/2024 15:49

Shellingbynight · 13/10/2024 12:11

I agree the dynamic would be interesting to examine, but it would mean suffering a lot of screen time from Jack, which is bad enough - then add Penny to it. I wouldn't be watching that episode.

I am struggling to think of any positive/nice Penny has done since her return. She started out by planting drugs on Lauren and finished up being absolutely evil to Chelsea. She seems completely out for herself.

This is very true too!

Eastie77Returns · 13/10/2024 17:21

I caught up on the last two episodes in one sitting and felt dizzy trying to keep track of the Cindy/David/Junior/Ian/George scenes and revelations. It was all a bit much. How many times can we hear Cindy repeat that she doesn’t love Ian but wants him for the security etc etc.

Why didn’t David just tell Bianca who Holly is?? Surely she would be happy to know she has a niece and possibly reconnect with her brother. She had just told him how lonely she he has just walked off and left her in Sonia’s big ole house.

I think Ian will find the recording and play it at the wedding to humiliate Cindy.

Autumnleaveswhenthegrassisjewelled · 13/10/2024 17:27

I feel like Cindy gets such a bad rap and is seen like the bad guy, whilst Ian is seen as her victim.

Back in the day he was so awful to her. He made her work in the chip shop most nights, when she was a mum to three young children under five, including two toddler twins. He controlled the money he gave her and was rude and condescending to her when she asked for more love, money, nights out other than the Vic, and he used to humiliate her by being rude, obnoxious and competitive with everyone around him. He was abusive to her on a meal out with his mum and Phil, and also rude to his mum, which is why Phil ended up putting his head down the toilet. It's only when Jane came into Ian's life after abusing and torturing Laura for not living up to his expectations of being a perfect put up and hush wife, that he mellowed out a bit.

Cindy had an affair out of frustration and trying to find some joy, with a lifeguard, and ended it when she realised she had done wrong. She tried to be extra kind to Ian, out of guilt, but he carried on being awful to her. David Wicks noticed all her mistreatment and called it out and told her she deserved better. She thought he meant that he would give her better so gave her heart and soul into trying to build a life with him, only for him to betray her when the going gets tough.

EE always fails to remind viewers of the reason why Cindy ending up trying to have Ian shot. She tried to leave and make a new life for herself with David and her children, with Barry's help (who could also see she deserved better) and when Ian found out he blackmailed Cindy into staying with him. She wasn't even going to go far, just to a flat somewhere in East London and told him he could still see the children. He had made her to sign something to do with a mortgage for an extra big house (two of the terraces on Alrbert square joined together), which was fraudulent, unbeknownst to her, and when she was ready to leave, he threatened to have her put in jail for signing something fraudulently, unless she stayed, or gave him full custody of the kids. She was distraught as her children were her world and became so panicked and desperate that she arranged to have him shot, then woke up out of her insanity and tried to cancel it and tried to take Ian somewhere safe.

When she eventually came back to the UK after being on the run abroad (abandoned by David at this point), even though Ian had his children back with him, he had her put in jail whilst she was pregnant, ONLY to stop her getting custody of the children. He wasn't interested in having her arrested for ages, it was only when she turned up asking for access to her children, that the woman trying to help him become local councilor for her own crooked gain (Annie), had the hitman tracked down and had him forced to confess by Phil. The father of her unborn baby, abandoned her, when he found out what had happened and pulled away all her legal support.

I'd say she's more trauma bonded to Ian, especially after the loss of her children, and she's never had any skills other than working in the chip shop and whatever she did in hiding, had a troubled upbringing. East London is expensive. She wants to, and has always wanted to, be close to her children, and has had all her impulsive decisions fuelled by the desperate love she feels for them. She turned to him originally because she was a vulnerable single mum, and thought he really wanted to love her. But he didn't. I reckon she loves George so much because he's the only guy who ever gave his heart to her, and she let it go, when the trauma of the past came back with Lucy dying.

Cantbelievethatimafoolagain · 13/10/2024 18:28

@Autumnleaveswhenthegrassisjewelled wow I didn't know any of this!

Eastie77Returns · 13/10/2024 19:04

Autumnleaveswhenthegrassisjewelled · 13/10/2024 17:27

I feel like Cindy gets such a bad rap and is seen like the bad guy, whilst Ian is seen as her victim.

Back in the day he was so awful to her. He made her work in the chip shop most nights, when she was a mum to three young children under five, including two toddler twins. He controlled the money he gave her and was rude and condescending to her when she asked for more love, money, nights out other than the Vic, and he used to humiliate her by being rude, obnoxious and competitive with everyone around him. He was abusive to her on a meal out with his mum and Phil, and also rude to his mum, which is why Phil ended up putting his head down the toilet. It's only when Jane came into Ian's life after abusing and torturing Laura for not living up to his expectations of being a perfect put up and hush wife, that he mellowed out a bit.

Cindy had an affair out of frustration and trying to find some joy, with a lifeguard, and ended it when she realised she had done wrong. She tried to be extra kind to Ian, out of guilt, but he carried on being awful to her. David Wicks noticed all her mistreatment and called it out and told her she deserved better. She thought he meant that he would give her better so gave her heart and soul into trying to build a life with him, only for him to betray her when the going gets tough.

EE always fails to remind viewers of the reason why Cindy ending up trying to have Ian shot. She tried to leave and make a new life for herself with David and her children, with Barry's help (who could also see she deserved better) and when Ian found out he blackmailed Cindy into staying with him. She wasn't even going to go far, just to a flat somewhere in East London and told him he could still see the children. He had made her to sign something to do with a mortgage for an extra big house (two of the terraces on Alrbert square joined together), which was fraudulent, unbeknownst to her, and when she was ready to leave, he threatened to have her put in jail for signing something fraudulently, unless she stayed, or gave him full custody of the kids. She was distraught as her children were her world and became so panicked and desperate that she arranged to have him shot, then woke up out of her insanity and tried to cancel it and tried to take Ian somewhere safe.

When she eventually came back to the UK after being on the run abroad (abandoned by David at this point), even though Ian had his children back with him, he had her put in jail whilst she was pregnant, ONLY to stop her getting custody of the children. He wasn't interested in having her arrested for ages, it was only when she turned up asking for access to her children, that the woman trying to help him become local councilor for her own crooked gain (Annie), had the hitman tracked down and had him forced to confess by Phil. The father of her unborn baby, abandoned her, when he found out what had happened and pulled away all her legal support.

I'd say she's more trauma bonded to Ian, especially after the loss of her children, and she's never had any skills other than working in the chip shop and whatever she did in hiding, had a troubled upbringing. East London is expensive. She wants to, and has always wanted to, be close to her children, and has had all her impulsive decisions fuelled by the desperate love she feels for them. She turned to him originally because she was a vulnerable single mum, and thought he really wanted to love her. But he didn't. I reckon she loves George so much because he's the only guy who ever gave his heart to her, and she let it go, when the trauma of the past came back with Lucy dying.

Cindy is that you?😂

Honestly I’d forgotten so much of that. I remember Ian was horrible to her at times and he was an extremely manipulative unpleasant person back in the day. He also married Mel under false pretences by pretending Lucy had Cancer and has been vile to all his wives.

I also liked the fact she called David out on the fact that she is seen as a slapper for having so many men whereas men like him are admired for their sexual adventures.

I feel for her as George is the only one she really loves. Unfortunately for her he is also the one who knows her best hence why he will never go there again!

the80sweregreat · 13/10/2024 19:47

Ian has been horrible to every wife his ever had
He treated Laura appallingly and took Jane for granted, tried to blackmail Mel and Sharon tired to poison him. Cindy is as below!
To think he was engaged to Denise once and Mandy !

Southeastdweller · 13/10/2024 20:28

I think the only woman he treated nicely for their entire relationship was Mandy, but she never loved him. He treated Cindy well in the early days, but she still had an affair with Simon and she didn't come clean about it until after Steven was born.

I also remember him having a brief relationship with Donna until he found out she was his half-sister.

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Autumnleaveswhenthegrassisjewelled · 13/10/2024 22:18

the80sweregreat · 13/10/2024 19:47

Ian has been horrible to every wife his ever had
He treated Laura appallingly and took Jane for granted, tried to blackmail Mel and Sharon tired to poison him. Cindy is as below!
To think he was engaged to Denise once and Mandy !

Oh my goodness i forgot about him and Denise 😂

Autumnleaveswhenthegrassisjewelled · 13/10/2024 22:23

Eastie77Returns · 13/10/2024 19:04

Cindy is that you?😂

Honestly I’d forgotten so much of that. I remember Ian was horrible to her at times and he was an extremely manipulative unpleasant person back in the day. He also married Mel under false pretences by pretending Lucy had Cancer and has been vile to all his wives.

I also liked the fact she called David out on the fact that she is seen as a slapper for having so many men whereas men like him are admired for their sexual adventures.

I feel for her as George is the only one she really loves. Unfortunately for her he is also the one who knows her best hence why he will never go there again!

Hahaha I saw it all on Classic Eastenders a few years ago and found it honestly heartbreaking, they way she ended up in jail, away from her children, whilst Ian got to play super dad- whilst he was the one who put her in that position. I feel like he was a classic example of how abusive men don't always have to have the toxic darvo personality and can be wimpy and cowardly too, man of the community too, and don't always show their true colours straight away. We've seen it so much here on Mumsnet, who would have been telling her to LTB if it was real life.

the80sweregreat · 14/10/2024 06:48

Oh definitely, Ian is bad news and on mumsnet any of his many wives and fiancés would be told to just leave him ! He is a bunting full of red flags that one

MichaelAndEagle · 14/10/2024 18:29

God Penny is so annoying. As far as I'm concerned the crush was her fault anyway.
She was responsible for checking numbers, checking exits were clear. There were other ways extra people could turn up, fake tickets or whatever, you have to check the actual numbers coming in.

the80sweregreat · 14/10/2024 18:37

I didn't enjoy todays one much
A lot of angst and I agree that Penny is annoying.
Is the Denise actress pregnant?

MichaelAndEagle · 14/10/2024 18:38

Ooh I'm watching now, I'll look out for her carrying a huge bag, or always being behind a counter.
She must be on the older side for having a baby?

the80sweregreat · 14/10/2024 18:39

It was mentioned on here that Diane parish might be pregnant, but I don't know if it's confirmed or not ?
How will they write her out I wonder especially if she is back with Jack.

the80sweregreat · 14/10/2024 18:40

Diane is 54 in real life

Sendcrisis · 14/10/2024 18:41

Funny how Denise could blurt out a secret about Chelsea but she's kept her own secret about hitting Nish. Awful character. Why are they making everyone so unlikeable

MichaelAndEagle · 14/10/2024 18:45

Gah! Can't believe she blurted that out! It was still penny's fault!

Don't think Dianne Parish can be preggers.

Eastie77Returns · 14/10/2024 20:03

I don’t think she is preggers but is something going on with her boobs? Or is it just the tops she has been wearing lately. She looks fabulous in any case and I would not put her at 54 (I think Denise the character is meant to be the same age). Jack is punching waaaay above his station.

Shellingbynight · 14/10/2024 20:07

Yes, Jack is definiting punching.

Everyone was annoying in this episode!

Why is Vinny cosying up to Nish who tried to stab him to death about ten days ago?

Penny is unbelievably self-centred. If only she really was on her way to Paris.

Jumpers, Junior, Freddie, Amy, all annoying.

Even Chelsea was annoying harping on about Denise definitely blurting out her name. Then she blurted out her name. 😠

Bunionbabe · 14/10/2024 20:31

Ir looks like Denise has new boobs, Sharon's face looks odd, sort of frozen and lop sided and Kathy has overdone the face lift/fillers and blusher. EE must have it's own plastic surgeon on speed dual.

catin8oots · 14/10/2024 21:42

Pisses me off no end that not one single drink they have in the pub has ice in it. Look. You won't unsee it now.