RACE ACROSS THE WORLD 2024

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Just seen my first advert that it's back!!!! Japan to Indonesia starting 10th April, brilliant, my absolute favourite!

Devon millions of teens never get to travel and they cope just fine. My ds will never backpack due to food allergies, he'll have to wait until he has the money to afford good hotels.

That is what I understood too, as the first European country that the Japanese started to trade with was Portugal.

Also, the Japanese didn’t have a written language before they started trading with China. They took the Chinese writing and applied it to their own language. Then they created two different phonetic alphabets to enable them to spell out words they didn’t have a symbol for. That is why the Japanese name for the symbolic alphabet is Kanji - Chinese letters. A Japanese friend told me that she had a conversation with a Chinese woman entirely through writing as although they couldn’t speak the same language they could both understand the same symbols.

It’s probably the obvious unsaid thing but the Latin for bread is panis, which is where all these words stem from. I also love words and their origins and the links we don’t realise are there.

Amy ideas for why it’s bread in English?

I love the origins of words.

Bread has a Germanic root. And as it's a staple everyday food, I guess that has stuck rather than the Latin/French pain.

Again, not to de-rail thread but I read the "Old" Portuguese for bread was "pan" (apparently most words that today end in "-ão" were written with the ending "-am, -an" or "-om" in Old Portuguese.)

(ed: spelling)

Interesting thank you.

dd says chicken / lamb is Germanic whereas beef / pork is French.

Yep. Because the people who tended the animals spoke mainly German based old English but the nobility, who ate the meat, spoke French.
So beef - French, cow - old English.
Mutton - French, sheep - old English.
Pork - French, swine (not sure about pig) old English.

Yes that’s what she pretty much said re French /nobility and the commoners.
I find it fascinating.

Being rather old and growing up in deepest Dorset I remember some German phrases were still in use as a hang over from old English, mainly ‘bist du’ meaning ‘are you?’ As in ‘I’m off up Dorchester amorrow’, ‘bist du?’

That’s fascinating! Are they still heard now?

My dd is 18yo and definitely missed out on school trips due to covid, she's keen to travel after college though. The lockdowns had a huge negative effect in her mental health and some of those issues cast a long shadow sadly.

The boys are endearing, I laughed when the taller one said he needs 4 meals a day! Typical hollow legged teen boy 😂

Anyone interested in dialect might find this archive interesting. Lots of recordings from the 50/60s. I know there’s also something similar dating back to the 1900s if anyone knows where to find it. https://dialectandheritage.org.uk/lavc/

Yes I think we forget how during Covid we were in the same storm but some were in yachts and some in leaky dinghies. It’s easy to remember it just from your experience.

No. The accent has pretty much gone and it was the very old boys who would use it when I was little

Me too. S Korea East Coast looks amazing!

Agree with everyone about Stephen. Viv saying he was her '3rd time lucky' does make you wonder how awful numbers 1 and 2 must have been.

Just catching up!

I've just caught up now. Really wanted to see where they all were in terms of budget left at the end of that leg but I didn't see it, did I miss it, or did they not show it?

@GoldenSpraint did they not finish the leg at all? I just assumed they got there quite a bit after the others.

It would be a shame if Brydie and Sharon went as they seem lovely, but tbh they’re looking the most likely to get the chop…

I'd never heard that about the Norman/Anglo Saxon words for the meat versus the animals. So interesting. Every day is a school day 🙂

In Scotland when I was young standard sliced bread was called a pan loaf. A plain loaf - which makes delicious toast - was cheaper. If someone was putting on airs and talking in a posh voice they could be described as "awfy pan loaf"

That’s a shame. I hope it’s preserved so where in audio or text.

i thought pan was french

Pain, pronounced “pan” is French. The words already discussed are very likely cognate from the Latin panis, as a pp mentioned.