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Call The Midwife Series 13 Part 2

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PinkFrogss · 04/02/2024 21:40

Or Call Saint Turner, as the show has really turned into.

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shearwater2 · 28/02/2024 22:13

Sister Veronica is just annoying, just always unpleasant and self-satisfied, and only pops up at mealtimes and for torturing children with complicated singing.

RosaMoline · 29/02/2024 12:30

Agree with PPs that CTM has lost its way. I too used to have a good old cry. Not anymore….

Tarkan · 29/02/2024 12:41

I've never cried at a TV show like I did when Barbara died. I lost a friend to meningococcal septicaemia when I was 17 so there was a mixture of the emotions coming back from that but also just because Barbara was a lovely character and deserved a happy ever after with Tom. Sad

I used to always make sure the tissues were handy when CtM was on. I couldn't tell you the last time I needed them.

DelphineFox · 29/02/2024 12:51

I think a lot of people want cosy/heartwarming Sunday night viewing as an escape though. So that's probably why it's gone in that direction.

maddiemookins16mum · 29/02/2024 13:00

Tarkan · 29/02/2024 12:41

I've never cried at a TV show like I did when Barbara died. I lost a friend to meningococcal septicaemia when I was 17 so there was a mixture of the emotions coming back from that but also just because Barbara was a lovely character and deserved a happy ever after with Tom. Sad

I used to always make sure the tissues were handy when CtM was on. I couldn't tell you the last time I needed them.

Me too. I literally sobbed. Even the next day I still felt very upset.

Warmwoolytights · 29/02/2024 13:06

The Christmas episode with Mrs Jenkins finding the graves of her children is one of only two times I have ever seen DH cry (a subject very personal to him).

LimberlostLark · 29/02/2024 13:16

It also used to be a great starting ground for talent - Miranda Hart, Emerald Fennell and Charlotte Richie spring to mind as people who went on to do big(ger) things.

LIZS · 29/02/2024 13:18

And you used to get well known actors guesting such as Anita Dobson and Phil Daniels.

Girliefriendlikespuppies · 29/02/2024 13:37

Just catching up with the thread.

I thought last week's episode was ridiculous (well more ridiculous than usual 🙈) why on Earth wouldn't Trixie want to go to NYC with her husband?? And I was waiting for Mathew to say, you'll be fine looking after Jonty won't you?! There's never in a million years hope in hells chance he would take his young son with him when he's trying to get a (?) business set up.

I really feel like the writers screwed Trixie over big time, they could have just let her be happy with a husband in the background that we didn't see much of.

dollybird · 29/02/2024 15:19

It's not what it used to be, but people still enjoy it. I think it won an award last week? And the comments on their FB page are all 'the best thing on tv' and 'it gets better and better' Confused

DelphineFox · 29/02/2024 15:42

It seems to be popular in the US. I've seen the "Godliness" of it being praised on the FB page.
When I read the books, I found the Mrs Jenkins/workhouse howl and the treatment of Jane in Shadows of the Workhouse really upsetting. I'll admit if the series featured too much of that sort of thing it might put me off. I remember reading Shadows of the Workhouse on a train and a fellow passenger asking me if I recommended it. I said no as it was too upsetting!

RosaMoline · 29/02/2024 16:25

Girliefriendlikespuppies · 29/02/2024 13:37

Just catching up with the thread.

I thought last week's episode was ridiculous (well more ridiculous than usual 🙈) why on Earth wouldn't Trixie want to go to NYC with her husband?? And I was waiting for Mathew to say, you'll be fine looking after Jonty won't you?! There's never in a million years hope in hells chance he would take his young son with him when he's trying to get a (?) business set up.

I really feel like the writers screwed Trixie over big time, they could have just let her be happy with a husband in the background that we didn't see much of.

YES!
The Trixie we know (and love?) would’ve been all over the opportunity to relocate to glamorous, exciting New York.
The stores, Park Avenue, Long Island, Broadway, Ciros….she would be in her absolute element!

InMySpareTime · 29/02/2024 16:47

I think Trixie would have loved to go to New York, but was really feeling rejected and not listened to by Matthew. For all he said "you'll be the first to know once I find out the situation re the warehouses" he made the unilateral decision to relocate and just assumed Trixie would trail along.
That, just after all his belittling her little job and turning down the job she found him, would have really made her doubt the wisdom of going to start a new life with him with no safety net and no certainty.

dayswithaY · 29/02/2024 16:56

And what’s the betting we will never hear Matthew’s name again, just like Lucille and Valerie.

Then next year they’ll cobble together some storyline for Trixie where she’ll fall in love with a visiting doctor/vet/astronomer (she’s already had a vicar and a dentist).

greengreengrass25 · 29/02/2024 16:58

I think Trixie is past her sell by in this series tbh

OnceUponATeabreak · 29/02/2024 17:26

I still love it Smile

Uricon2 · 29/02/2024 17:35

Warmwoolytights · 29/02/2024 13:06

The Christmas episode with Mrs Jenkins finding the graves of her children is one of only two times I have ever seen DH cry (a subject very personal to him).

Yes, so much. Wasn't that also the episode with the young girl giving birth alone? Can't remember as I was crying so hard.

They really have lost their way with the characters as much as anything, it's too soapy and contrived. I think prequel series are the way to go.

LimberlostLark · 29/02/2024 17:42

Then next year they’ll cobble together some storyline for Trixie where she’ll fall in love with a visiting doctor/vet/astronomer (she’s already had a vicar and a dentist).

Bring back the dentist!

RosaMoline · 29/02/2024 17:46

I expect, because of Trixie’s heartbreak, they’ll cobble together some storyline about her joining the order 🙄

LadyBird1973 · 29/02/2024 19:38

I'd like to see the dentist back

SoundTheSirens · 29/02/2024 20:06

DelphineFox · 29/02/2024 12:51

I think a lot of people want cosy/heartwarming Sunday night viewing as an escape though. So that's probably why it's gone in that direction.

That’s a fair point but the thing that made it a success originally, and so contributed to it being renewed multiple times, was the fact it was a uniquely female-centric show that had both grit and heart, and was able to balance the heartbreak of the likes of Mrs Jenkins and the young Irish girl, or the impact of illegal abortion, or the effects of thalidomide on babies, with the cosy heartwarming stories with the happy endings. It handled death with sensitivity amidst the (mostly) joy and hope of new life. And it could do subtlety well too, building a story over weeks - like Shelagh and Dr Turner realising their feelings for each other, or Trixie’s slide from party girl to alcoholic.

Now there’s no subtlety at all. We’re hit over the head with foreshadowing, there’s no pathos or real suspense or attempt at light and shade. Virtually everything is neatly tied up with a bow within one episode, and usually in such a saccharine sweet way that we need Trixie’s old dentist boyfriend to treat the resulting toothache. Characters disappear and their storyline is left to dangle; at least the likes of Patsy and Delia were namechecked once or twice after they left! It feels rushed and disjointed…Matthew’s departure was utterly ridiculous, and even putting aside the ludicrousness that May’s mother would have had any clout, how come Shelagh and Patrick have never mentioned again the sword of Damocles that is her maternal concerns hanging over them? Everything has to be seen through modern sensibilities now - can you imagine how they’d handle the brother-sister incest storyline these days? And of course we don’t want endless one-note stories of e.g. Cyril or Joyce suffering racism every week, but it’s so unrealistic that it never happens.

Of course I still watch it, out of a lingering nostalgia, a liking for a handful of the older, established characters and a certain amount of sunk cost fallacy, but it is a pale, soapy imitation of its former self.

dayswithaY · 29/02/2024 20:07

Yes maybe that’s the logical conclusion - Trixie becoming a nun. Didn’t she used to do a keep fit class? What happened to that?

dayswithaY · 29/02/2024 20:14

Sorry I crossed posts with @SoundTheSirens excellent post. You are spot on.

They used to really push the envelope with storylines about incest, rape, etc. I remember an episode where a young girl with Downs Syndrome got pregnant, and another with Sister Julien championing a brother and sister living together in a romantic relationship. I cried buckets when a young mother died after taking the Pill.

Also, the grinding poverty of the East End used to be a running theme now it’s just turnips and Violet’s seaside trips.

LaBelleSauvage123 · 29/02/2024 23:04

There are no interesting nun characters now at all. Sister MJ and Sister Julienne are very one-note and that Veronica woman is awful. I liked some of the ones they got rid of, like the round faced smiley one and Fenella someone - they were much more interesting, but never allowed to really develop.

SoundTheSirens · 01/03/2024 07:15

LaBelleSauvage123 · 29/02/2024 23:04

There are no interesting nun characters now at all. Sister MJ and Sister Julienne are very one-note and that Veronica woman is awful. I liked some of the ones they got rid of, like the round faced smiley one and Fenella someone - they were much more interesting, but never allowed to really develop.

Sister Frances (the round faced smiley one) was a potentially wonderful character with an arc vaguely similar to Chummy’s, albeit without the policeman relationship, obviously 😄 But the way Sr Julienne nurtured and supported her to find her self-confidence, and the way she learned to advocate for the women in her care was great. She developed a real voice of steel when an errant father needed telling off! Of all the newer characters in the last 3-5 years, she was my favourite and I was sad to see she’d left.