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Channel 4 - To Catch A Copper

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NameChangeAsICouldBeOverReacting · 29/01/2024 21:11

Thoughts?

I was luckily able to watch this during work due to my job and it absolutely SHOCKED me to my core and really affected me.

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ThePure · 02/02/2024 08:46

amp.theguardian.com/politics/2023/dec/23/james-cleverly-apologises-for-appalling-date-drug-joke-at-no-10-event

James Cleverly I am afraid is part of the problem. I expect he would watch that program and not be able to see anything wrong.

BirthdayRainbow · 02/02/2024 14:52

I'm watching it now and my heart was in my mouth at the lady on the bridge as my relative went there to try and jump and I was terrified it was her.

The policeman who had sex with the drunk woman, so far really feels like he is a rapist and it making shit up to try and get away with it.

billysboy · 03/02/2024 13:24

And still no accountability or anything done

Aaaalrightythen · 03/02/2024 13:56

@misscockerspaniel I won't click on a Fail link, but presumably she didn't just "sit on her sofa" when she saw it, considering she was actively part of the show Hmm

TooBigForMyBoots · 04/02/2024 01:08

Fair fucks to Sarah Crew.👏 We need more like her.

vjg13 · 04/02/2024 15:35

ThePure · 01/02/2024 00:07

This is an utter utter horror show
It hardly gives you confidence in policing

Cocking being acquitted. His stupid wife and a
whole jury believing that crock of victim blaming bullshit. Ill health retirement on a full pension for a rapist. I am enraged.

The ridiculous 'reflective practice' where essentially they do no reflection at all and another blokey officer who likely shared their views gives them a pat on the back for swearing at and humiliating a vulnerable person. I have no idea what law they were deploying to return her to the hospital if it was true that she was not detained under the mental health act

The bridge incident officers pulling a traumatised person by her hair, pushing her out of the car handcuffed on the floor and holding her by her throat. Apart from anything else how dumb would you actually need to be to pepper spray someone inside a car that you were driving in.

I do have some sympathy that the police are not the right people to respond to mental health incidents as they don't have the right training or mindset but rather than withdraw from it completely they need to work with mental health services to work differently so we can manage this stuff. In my area we have a mental health joint response car with a mental health nurse on duty to talk people down and prevent this sort of stuff. People in crisis do present to police and they can't just wash their hands they need to get better at dealing with it.

Yes to all of the above. A very hard watch. The police absolutely need mental health professionals to work alongside them in these cases.

urbanbuddha · 04/02/2024 22:37

TooBigForMyBoots · 04/02/2024 01:08

Fair fucks to Sarah Crew.👏 We need more like her.

Agreed.

Andthereyougo · 05/02/2024 21:16

Omg, my heart’s in my mouth, that baby is going to get injured, its limbs are so tiny, someone falls and it’ll get crushed. Stupid bloody coppers couldn’t sirt out a scrap in a playground.

commonground · 05/02/2024 21:19

And the observer saying 'what could the officers do? She threatened them...' Yes, she was on the phone saying this. So how about backing off, not seeing it as a red rag to 'have a go'.

Then the 8 officers piling on to the bus! It's literally unbelievable. Except it isn't.

Andthereyougo · 05/02/2024 21:28

And spraying whatever it is so close to a baby.
They made no effort to de-escalate or negotiate with the bus driver to let her continue on the bus. Yes she swore but she was so upset I can understand it.
Glad she’s going with a solicitor.

LIZS · 05/02/2024 21:33

This episode is no better. If you choose to overlook racist connotations you won't find any. Yet by their own admission it is not a diverse body who investigate,

Surely those 8 officers could have been better deployed elsewhere. Her "threats" were empty.

commonground · 05/02/2024 21:33

"I've never seen any racism in this force - and that is the truth" says the white male officer....

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NameChangeAsICouldBeOverReacting · 05/02/2024 21:36

Not managed to watch tonight’s episode, but caught the first 10mins. So worried that poor baby would have broken a leg or arm or something!

You do have to wonder if the same treatment would be applied to a white woman who asked for a change ticket.

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LIZS · 05/02/2024 21:43

The inspector reassuring them they did nothing wrong and willing to contest the removal from frontline duties Shock - no bias there then , even though they failed to follow procedure in approaching and arresting him.

Bagpuss2022 · 05/02/2024 21:52

That poor guy with the brain bleed they have failed him he asked for help and they didn’t and failed him

Andthereyougo · 05/02/2024 21:54

They may have thought the young man was drunk but he’s was left lying in vomit for 3 hours, visible on their cctv. No one even looked in his eyes, checked if light was affecting him. Why on earth couldn’t they have had the nurse there when he was first in custody? 5 minutes would have shown a HCP he was ill.

Toddlerteaplease · 05/02/2024 21:57

They are being very defensive about the way he was treated.

crampycrumpet · 05/02/2024 21:59

I was on the police's side for a while but they left Reon for 3 hours

Three hours

crampycrumpet · 05/02/2024 22:00

Thank god he is well!

Onheretoomuch · 05/02/2024 22:07

I can’t bare it. WTF is the point of the IOPC !!!!!!!!! They need investigating !!!

Turkeyhen · 05/02/2024 22:15

In the "reflective practice" interview it felt to me like the older white officer was totally undermining the black diversity officer's attempt to challenge the female officer's decisions on the bus.

Toddlerteaplease · 05/02/2024 22:22

Yes I thought that. I can't believe she was exonerated.

londonmummy1966 · 05/02/2024 22:36

My DD tried to get on a bus at Bristol Temple Meads to Go to school in Wells. Her bank card wasn't working as she needed to put the PIN in and there are no pin pads on the Bristol buses so she was chucked off. She was subsequently able to withdraw cash form a cash point at the station and get the next bus. It was raining incredibly heavily and she ended up quite ill with a chest infection because the bus drive refused to let her in in the pouring rain. I raised this with the bus company who told me that there policy was if you are over 16 and can't meet their criteria for paying on the spot they'll kick you off. SO I fully accept that this mother tired to pay in cash and was told sorry we have no change, tried to pay by card and the reader didn't work and was then told to get off the bus. Unlike my DD who wasn't strong enough to stand up for herself and say that if the bus can't take payment they should take a name and address and et them stay on this mother clearly said she needed to get to school. End result she and her child are attacked by 8 officers and her baby is Parva SPRAYED....for not paying a bus fare she tried to pay 2 different ways. Why the F aren;t they looking at the bus driver who wasn't prepared to take a sensible view ?????

PangramAddict · 05/02/2024 23:04

Yep.
And then they all sit around have reassuring chats.

Can't believe she said she used the "I'll call social services because you swore in front of your child" multiple times and would again!
Christ, she'd barely get six foot into the Asda down the road from the incident without threatening ten mums the same!

And as for leaving Reon for THREE HOURS! Arent you supposed to check on inebriated people so they don't CHOKE on their own vomit?! Not leave them lying in it? Appalling.