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Australian Traitors Season 2: Spoilers!! Spoilers!!

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periodiclabel · 23/01/2024 16:27

For all those who have WATCHED Season 2 on Daily Motion and wish to discuss ... SPOILERS

The ending. What a blinder Camille played! And Sam still trying to talk her out of it. I would have done exactly the same.

I can't remember most contestant's names now but it was extraordinary how every time someone suspected Sam he deflected onto them and off they were banished. I couldn't work out if he was a genius or the rest of them were extraordinarily stupid. I certainly wouldn't be pleased if that psychologist woman was my therapist, dumb to the very last moment.

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wubwubwub · 10/02/2024 23:48

kenyaswhiterefrigerator · 08/02/2024 10:30

I thought that Sam was another Paul, playing up for the cameras. However, when Paul was outed he took it graciously and treated it like a game.

Sam was awful. He was such a sore loser. I can believe he was just being himself rather than playing a role

He absolutely believed he should have won and Camille should have given him the money, as if he would have done thay. Cocky little shite.

wubwubwub · 10/02/2024 23:53

whenwhenwhen · 04/02/2024 07:29

Agree with lots of the points above:

• Peak schadenfreude to see Sam taking home nothing at the end - delighted!
• Camille absolutely bossed it - well done her
• Annabel was so irritating, but basically the best player there
• The faithfuls were ALL dum dums, particularly Sarah
• The casting of this season was dreadful, starting with the "celebs" but particularly the "social influencer narcissist queen" types
• Amazing that each time they came for Sammy, he deflected, and the dumdums voted for the person who had led the charge. This was particularly the case in Simone and then Gloria's banishments.
• I actually enjoy Rodger as the host, he's different from Claudia but he is funny and classy. His minion Daniel however, was most definitely surplus to requirements, like a shit Teller

As much as I enjoyed seeing Sammy getting that takedown, I do think the producers rigged it at the end to save themselves $220,000 AUD. At no stage in either series was it mentioned that if only traitors get to the end, then they have to play a "Traitor's Dilemma" endgame. Every episode they literally said "If any traitors remain at the end, they steal everything" and that should honestly be the outcome, as much as we loved seeing "the Sherriff" being taken down a huge number of pegs.

Bringing in the "Traitors Dilemma" was not mentioned, or not actually fair, because the Traitors had played the game according to the known rules and won. If they had known about the "Traitors Dilemma" then they would not have engineered it as they did to remove the final faithful from within their midst. So it feels like an unfair sting in the tail.

I do think the Australian one probably has a far smaller budget, and the producers on this one messed up badly, possibly due to having insufficient people to "game" all the permutations and combinations through every day, though I maintain the problems began with casting this bunch of morons.

Presumably all the players were fully aware of all the rules before entering the game....it's a competition for huge amounts of money. It would be tightly regulated and they wouldn't be able to change the rules half way through etc.

Whether they remembered the players or interpreted them correctly is by the by....

NotTerfNorCis · 11/02/2024 21:48

Oh my God. Watching final. Don't screw over the woman, guys... what's she going for.... STEAL! Hahahahahaha.

SpttyMaldoon · 12/02/2024 00:33

I’ve seen all of the English speaking traitors and the spanish one too.

Both the Spanish and this one ended with more than one traitor and both had the traitor’s dilemma.

so maybe that’s the rules and we haven’t seen them mentioned in other Versions because it didn’t come to that.

don’t know if anyone else has seen other European versions where this happened.

final thought, Sarah has to be the worst player in the history of traitors and for her to say she was leaving with her head held high, it takes a delusional mind to feel that way.

burnoutbabe · 12/02/2024 07:44

The ending with the dilemma was a surprise for us as we were all excited about 3 traitors getting to the end and working out tactics.

With 5 they could 100% win and share 1/3 each.
Or try and get rid of one more traitor so share 1/2 but with a chance the faithfuls win.

I can sort of see why they do it at 3 traitors left, to force more excitement over a guaranteed win (or encourage them to do more voting against fellow traitors)

But I felt the whole ending to me as a view was just very flat. No reward for them playing a good game.

As camille, I'd have gone share and made it clear I suspected they would steal. But overall I'd think it better soneone gets it than no one. I'd prefer to be seen as a good sport than a sore loser or petty person at the end.

NonPlayerCharacter · 12/02/2024 07:51

As camille, I'd have gone share and made it clear I suspected they would steal. But overall I'd think it better soneone gets it than no one. I'd prefer to be seen as a good sport than a sore loser or petty person at the end.

Even with someone who had clearly recruited you precisely so that you'd do that because he thought you were gullible, and who had been a total arsehole?

RedToothBrush · 12/02/2024 08:04

burnoutbabe · 12/02/2024 07:44

The ending with the dilemma was a surprise for us as we were all excited about 3 traitors getting to the end and working out tactics.

With 5 they could 100% win and share 1/3 each.
Or try and get rid of one more traitor so share 1/2 but with a chance the faithfuls win.

I can sort of see why they do it at 3 traitors left, to force more excitement over a guaranteed win (or encourage them to do more voting against fellow traitors)

But I felt the whole ending to me as a view was just very flat. No reward for them playing a good game.

As camille, I'd have gone share and made it clear I suspected they would steal. But overall I'd think it better soneone gets it than no one. I'd prefer to be seen as a good sport than a sore loser or petty person at the end.

Be kind folks.

Don't be seen to be the mean woman, playing unfair with the nice boys who utterly respected and liked everyone else in the game.

Nope.

Aspire to be a doormat.

Jeez.

wubwubwub · 12/02/2024 08:20

burnoutbabe · 12/02/2024 07:44

The ending with the dilemma was a surprise for us as we were all excited about 3 traitors getting to the end and working out tactics.

With 5 they could 100% win and share 1/3 each.
Or try and get rid of one more traitor so share 1/2 but with a chance the faithfuls win.

I can sort of see why they do it at 3 traitors left, to force more excitement over a guaranteed win (or encourage them to do more voting against fellow traitors)

But I felt the whole ending to me as a view was just very flat. No reward for them playing a good game.

As camille, I'd have gone share and made it clear I suspected they would steal. But overall I'd think it better soneone gets it than no one. I'd prefer to be seen as a good sport than a sore loser or petty person at the end.

Wow, really? You'd let a little cocky controlling entitled gobshite win and "tell him off"? As if he'd have believed that she knew...he'd be laughing in her face about how much she fell for his tricks and how dumb and gullible she was.

She gave him what he deserved.

He didn't play a great game, the others were absolutely fucking useless. Anyone that accused Sam, mysteriously died. They were told over and over again that Sam was a traitor...god even the presenter hinted it....and THEY STILL went and banished anyone that said "error I think Sam is a traitor". Gloria said they were utterly idiotic too, they say there all at the round table going "it's aman, I'm voting for a man!" And they all voted her off. And STILL they never voted Sam....

Worst players ever. The UK lad Harry played a much better game and deserved the win even though he was a cocky little gobshite too.

wubwubwub · 12/02/2024 08:22

RedToothBrush · 12/02/2024 08:04

Be kind folks.

Don't be seen to be the mean woman, playing unfair with the nice boys who utterly respected and liked everyone else in the game.

Nope.

Aspire to be a doormat.

Jeez.

Edited

Funny how the PP isn't talking about how Sam was a sore loser...

Just how the little woman should have let the man win....

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 12/02/2024 08:33

Why would Camille hand over to Sam and Blake? I've heard it all now.

Everyone who made it to the final played a good game.
Sarah was there by chance but Camille was so much a good faithful that the traitors knew she'd be an asset.

She knew straightaway she couldn't trust Sam as he got rid of Ash early doors and showed no empathy.

He thought he was better than everyone else and from interviews apparently wasn't pleasant to be around even away from the cameras.

He had his social media followers to impress and people were scared of that too.

They recruited Camille as they realised she could have got them both banished.

She saw through them, that's a good game.
They relied on cheating her, that's a sloppy game.

burnoutbabe · 12/02/2024 08:49

I wanted Blake to win and he seemed gutted st the end.

I didn't think she as a woman should give in. But she as a late recruit maybe should.

I am in Camilla's position of being older and having money so to me it's only a game rather than being young and needing cash. That also applies to others such as last years runner up.

That final twist, unknown to the viewers, just spoilt the whole thing for me. I would have been happy with a camomile Blake win if banished Sam earlier. Or even if the faithful pulled it back (though unlikely when only Sarah and Liam left) but this ending was just anti climatic.

Piggywaspushed · 12/02/2024 08:52

As a point of order, Sam never said he needed money either. None of them did. He wanted money.

No one who goes on a show like this genuinely thinks of it as a income stream - what they hope for is enough profile to create fame and a future income stream. Wonder how that will work out for the Sheriff.

NonPlayerCharacter · 12/02/2024 08:53

A Camille and Blake win would have been great but was never going to happen. How could either of them trust each other?

I'm starting to think that as a game it just eats itself. There comes a point where the need for constant mistrust just stops it being satisfying. And I really hate steal/share as a way of ending it. By that point, nobody is going to share so it's all a hiding to nothing.

wubwubwub · 12/02/2024 08:54

burnoutbabe · 12/02/2024 08:49

I wanted Blake to win and he seemed gutted st the end.

I didn't think she as a woman should give in. But she as a late recruit maybe should.

I am in Camilla's position of being older and having money so to me it's only a game rather than being young and needing cash. That also applies to others such as last years runner up.

That final twist, unknown to the viewers, just spoilt the whole thing for me. I would have been happy with a camomile Blake win if banished Sam earlier. Or even if the faithful pulled it back (though unlikely when only Sarah and Liam left) but this ending was just anti climatic.

Why do people think being a late recruit isn't "worthy" of winning as a traitor?

They played a good faithful game to get as far as they did, and then had to switch tactics and not get sacrificed by the other traitors.

Camille also had to remain undetected as a traitor as well. Which she did. (Mind you, all the traitors remained undetected)

In this case, Harry "an OG", trusted Camille entirely. He was absolutely convinced he had her under his thumb and he could get rid of her during the final. He absolutely thought Blake would share too, and he didn't... They all stole.

A late recruit who gets through to the final deserves, to have won just as much as any traitors, who odds are stacked in their favour anyway.

NonPlayerCharacter · 12/02/2024 08:59

Late recruits are only ever brought in to be decoys, cannon fodder or somehow useful for the original Traitors. It's a bad sign if they recruit you at a late point. They think you're gullible or halfway out already.

But it wouldn't be the first time a player thought a late recruit didn't deserve to win because they hadn't "worked hard" enough.

Slanabhaile · 12/02/2024 09:26

Just finished it last night and I cheered so loud when Camille chose STEAL. Sam was a great traitor, from the point of continually shifting suspicion away from him. But he was a horrible person, in the edit at least... I don't know him, so won't comment on him personally.

My view is that, at the end of it all, Camille out-traitored the Traitors so she is the winner (without winning any money).

One last thought.... Sarah is the biggest, most easily influenced, idiot I've even seen!!! Sam could have had a big red T tattooed on his forehead and she still wouldn't have voted for him to be banished!

Slanabhaile · 12/02/2024 09:27

In this case, Harry "an OG", trusted Camille entirely. He was absolutely convinced he had her under his thumb and he could get rid of her during the final
Do you mean Sam @wubwubwub ?

burnoutbabe · 12/02/2024 09:27

NonPlayerCharacter · 12/02/2024 08:53

A Camille and Blake win would have been great but was never going to happen. How could either of them trust each other?

I'm starting to think that as a game it just eats itself. There comes a point where the need for constant mistrust just stops it being satisfying. And I really hate steal/share as a way of ending it. By that point, nobody is going to share so it's all a hiding to nothing.

True.

And probably why there is no Australia season 2.

I liked that Harry won. I didn't like that he didn't appear to be happy winning as at that stage mollie lost and was upset. That was a bit if a downer really.

SpttyMaldoon · 12/02/2024 11:18

You just have to spend five minutes in Sam’s Instagram to confirm that he’s an idiot in real life too, and it’s his own account, no editing there.

he keeps saying how he doesn’t need any money and that he spends the reward money in a weekend, also, Camille has said she never said to anyone she is rich.

at the end of the day, the traitors usually go to ‘it’s a game’ to justify their betrayals and tactics, so i guess it’s fair for Camille to say ‘it’s a game’ to explain why she didn’t think she had to hand over any money to anyone.

Sam’s arrogance was his downfall because he thought he had Camille under his spell too.

the only victim here was Blake, he’s been labelled as a lapdog and weak character but he made it clear it was impossible for him to make any plans to oust Sam with Sarah derailing every round table.

Warmwoolytights · 12/02/2024 12:50

burnoutbabe · 12/02/2024 09:27

True.

And probably why there is no Australia season 2.

I liked that Harry won. I didn't like that he didn't appear to be happy winning as at that stage mollie lost and was upset. That was a bit if a downer really.

There was an Australian season 1, also on iPlayer. Worth watching too.

wubwubwub · 12/02/2024 13:24

Slanabhaile · 12/02/2024 09:27

In this case, Harry "an OG", trusted Camille entirely. He was absolutely convinced he had her under his thumb and he could get rid of her during the final
Do you mean Sam @wubwubwub ?

Edited

... yes 🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️😂

Slanabhaile · 12/02/2024 13:42

wubwubwub · 12/02/2024 13:24

... yes 🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️😂

😆 I do find that sometimes I have to really think about which version some of the players were in, they blend into one.

wubwubwub · 12/02/2024 17:52

In.my defence, they're two annoying, cocky, misogynistic young lads in the same roles in the same TV series ha ha ha

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 12/02/2024 19:21

They recruited Camille because she was onto them. They knew she was a strong player.
To switch tactics part way through nd make it to the final is a big achievement so she deserved it as much as anyone else.

Blake lost so many chances to oust Sam, there were a couple of rounds where if him or him and one other had said Sam he would have been out, but he changed his vote at the last minute.

kenyaswhiterefrigerator · 12/02/2024 19:29

My problem with Sam and Blake was their lack of grace at the end. Blake had plenty of chances to turn on Sam but he chose to ride on his coat tails instead of playing a game.

The previous Aus series saw all of the OG Traitors being ousted by new recruit Alex. None of them were nasty about being outed, they accepted she'd outmatched them and wryly laughed that she was the superior player.

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