Vanderpump Rules season 11 - the fall out from Scandoval

[thebellagio]

Wowsa, the new trailer for Pump11 is now out

It's only a few more weeks till it starts.

Who's excited!

https://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/pump-rules-season-11-trailer-tom-schwartz-exposes-scheana-shay-kiss/

This season was always going to be anticlimactic but the whole thing feels so forced now

I agree - feels cliche already. Feels like Tom will just keep trotting out the ‘I’ve been punished enough’ and Ariana ‘never forgive’.

Will only get interesting if people switch ‘sides’.

The problem for me this episode was it was all so contrived.

the set up of Lisa asking James about Graham cracker - clearly they already have the dog back. And the interaction between Ariana and Lala felt so fake.

I think VPR now has the same problem that RHOBH has - none of the cast want to spend any time with each other

Wow have you read Sandoval latest misstep? He’s compared himself to George Floyd, OJ Simpson and Danny Masterson. Fucking hell.

He’s foolishly gone to ‘I’ve paid my dues - I need sympathy now’.

think someone pointed out he’s only surrounded by people he pays/ agree with him. Needs far better advice.

the names he picked out for comparison is a WILD choice!

The fact that he chose a murderer and someone who was murdered as well as a convicted rapist was just insane.

he needs to be fired to be honest.

the way bravo celebrate these awful men is appalling. Even Schwartz when you watch it back is a horrible horrible person. And there’s all sorts of rumours about James flooding out right now as well.

Lisa, sadly, is there for the ratings so no chance of him being binned.

Schwartz on WWHL tonight so let’s see him ask for hugs again.

oh and his PR statement- D minus from me - totally obvs not his language so makes it even less of an apology.

Yeah it's definitely not Sandoval who wrote that apology

Have you read the entire NYT article? Its utterly hilarious. The writer clearly has the utmost disdain for reality TV, the way that they refer to LVP's restaurants as "mid places with bad food" and the constant references to the PR person who was SAT IN THE ROOM!. Even the way they refer to Ariana as "opening a sandwich shop with someone else in the cast" made me laugh out loud.

The fact that Bravo knew about what Tom had said and it STILL got published verbatim shows they couldn't do any damage control.

He's clearly now on a spiral where he's only surrounding himself by yes men, and anyone who dares to disagree with him is a hater. The fact that its literally 12 months on, and he's still digging his own grave is why the scandal hasn't dropped yet

Don't get me wrong as Tom Sandoval is the worst but as a producer I'd be telling them all either film together or leave the show.

So many Bravo shows have got to this. Trying to push another person out by refusing to film with them (To be fair Tom S did this with James)

I'd tell the lot of them either film together or be replaced. End of.

Quite frankly i think bravo should have yanked Tom out of filming as soon as he mentioned suicidal thoughts. They should have pulled him out and got him into intensive therapy to help him purely as a duty of care.

I think the man is an insufferable douche but if he is genuinely feeling overwhelmed because of the intensity of the backlash the producers should be showing some form of protection. not filming it as a storyline.

Absolutely the correct answer.

Is below deck down under also a bravo production or is that a separate production just shown on bravo? Cos I can’t understand the juxtaposition between how captain jason protected Margo and dealt with poor behaviour and how it’s actively encouraged on VPR

So now it appears Rachel is suing Tom and Ariana for revenge porn. This isn’t going away is it

This is a good point. Feel like LVP is always ‘it’s a bad thing not a bad person’

think she’s bound to hit back. It’s all getting a bit cringe how they are even entertaining’rebuilding’ with Sandoval. It’s so obviously just for the show.

I’m switching to summerhouse - hoping for more light entertainment 😃

im Becoming really uncomfortable with the misogyny coming from Bravo in general (with the sole exception of captain Jason).

even entertaining a redemption for Sandoval when he recorded the sex without consent, has repeatedly been shown trying to gaslight various women (Kristin, Ariana, Rachel), compared himself to a rapist, a murderer and someone who died, and repeatedly screams at women till turning on the tears to emotionally blackmail them (the way he was with LVP)

never mind the way they weaponised Ariana’s MH against her, while saying they all had to be nice to Sandoval to protect his while simultaneously ignoring the fact that Rachel was quite literally in a mental hospital while this was being filmed…

ive not see summerhouse, what’s it like?

I can't even bring myself to watch this season. Seasons 1 to when Jax and Britney left were great

ive not see summerhouse, what’s it like? @thebellagio

A bunch of friends from NY head to a shared vacation home on the weekends over the summer to party. It's fun, easy viewing a good mix of personalities

Like most Bravo shows the first few seasons are best

Ita boring as shit now that they are all sober. Time to move on.

I've just started Southern Hospitality. Not as good as VPR yet but has potential.

I’ve just seen the “news” that Jax and britt have split up. Seems a glaring publicity stunt considering their new show (which looks terrible) starts next week

i think bravo has essentially imploded. Because they won’t break the 4th wall they can’t show that the cast lives (on all programmes) have changed.

By failing to acknowledge the magnitude of scandoval and the opportunities Ariana has now had, as well as the merch opportunities that Scheana and Lala have created etc they are no longer showing their actual lives. Instead they just show manipulated and badly acted scenes. Its the same reason that RHOBH was awful this season

I miss the old VPR 😭

Spot on @thebellagio - the manipulation is so disjointed it’s no longer like you’re observing lives - just watching people doing improv to a theme of the day

It’s exactly that. Whereas actually there’s loads of stories to tell - Scheana and her podcasts / going to bravocon, Lala and her custody battle and relationship with her mum and brother who now live with her, Tom Schwartz and his family stuff, Ariana adapting to becoming a big star while knowing it’s only because her ex cheated….

there’s so many stories to tell but instead we just get some lame shit

needs a re-boot with some of the younger Sir servers. Do any of them actually work there any more?