Strictly 2023 Thread 2 - Let's Take To The Floor NO SPOILERS

[EineReiseDurchDieZeit]

Carry on!

Jade was born with foetal alcohol syndrome, her mother had/has a lot of issues.

I seem to remember that Jackiey Budden (Bobby's grandmother) did her best to exploit Jade's fame when she was alive.

Yes to both

@CaveMum

I don't know about the video, didn't we need a separate thread for videos because some people complained they couldn't load the chat?

Start a Strictly Videos 2023 Chat if you want? I'll join and so will others

One SCD videos thread, as requested!

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/telly_addicts/4899144-strictly-come-dancing-2023-the-one-with-all-the-videos

Jeff Brazier wasn't perfect to Jade when they were together, I remember they both went on a reality tv show, and he was all about image and following the trends of how you need to be to be in the public eye and be popular. Obv very young, but he did want to be famous and have a career in the media.
So yeh will be interesting to see how Bobby does for the 3 months strictly on on for.
You cant be happy go lucky 24/7, its not healthy.

Jade Goody was no angel and aside from all the racist controversy while she was on BB there was the whole tawdry look at me! round of sleb appearances and public washing of dirty linen from her, her mother, Brazier and Jack Tweed that until she fell ill seemed relentless.

The mother was very much the worst of the lot, but tbf, it was a very low bar.

Jade should never have been on BB or any reality show as her own background, upbringing and issues meant she was always going to get caught up in something that was way too big for her to know how to deal with and she was always going to end up exploited for the "humour" element of the stuff she said.

@CaveMum I remember watching your link last year and getting goosebumps! So lovely and just what a rumba should be, in my opinion. Soft, romantic, a love story.

Thanks for posting it again. 🥰

Indeed @SoIinvictus

Big Brother never had the contestants well-being at heart and with the controversy around Love Island you have to wonder whether ITV is wise in bringing it back

So many couples I like this year, my favourites already are

Nigel and Katya
Amanda and Gio
Bobby and Diane
Angela and Kai
Annabel and JoJo

But I'm especially looking forward to Eddie and Karen. He seems really fun and I think Karen is the best female pro

I don't mind a ringer but have they ever had one as obvious as Layton? Anyway he will be good to watch so looking forward to it

I'm also hoping that Les does reasonably well bless him

There will be tears for sure from Annabel and Bobby with the death of husband
and mother

Thank you @CaveMum for posting that dance I hadn't seen it before , breathtaking

I don’t deny that Layton will be good to watch, but for me it’s a step too far. I won’t be voting for him.

Can you explain what you mean by this?
Haven't read whole thread.

@BaconAndAvocado

The PP means his dance experience which is enough to class him as professional

Alumni of 3 theatre schools
West End Performer
Has given dance lessons for money
Competes in international competitions

@BaconAndAvocado posters have been discussing Layton’s previous dance experience (multiple West End roles with extensive choreography) and the unfair advantage this gives him over others. There have been others in the past with prior dance experience (Denise van Outen, Caroline Flack, etc), but Layton is by far and away the one with the most obvious dance background.

I would guess that inviting a professional dancer to appear on the show and be judged alongside fourteen people who don’t actually sing and dance for a living is a step too far on the part of the producers?

It wouldn't surprise me if that's why they chose him.
Their ratings went right up when Ashley Roberts was competing.

I wouldn't say he's necessarily more of a ringer than Ashley. But those two are a long way ahead of the rest.

“but for me it’s a step too far.”

Good use of words considering we’re talking about dancing.

Thanks for explaining.
Yep, seems unfair but, as you say, he won't be the first!

I think personality has come to play a huge role in terms of public voting and, ultimately, the winner.

Think Chris and Ola, Hamza and Javita. Not the greatest dancers (slebs) but their personalities shone.

With that in mind, and it's obviously very early days, I think Bobby Brazier is looking good!

Re Layton I fear it wont be an easy ride being the ringer as the public wont vote for him . So multiple times in the DO and being saved by the judges each week. It can get embarrassing, I hope he is prepared

I also think that he was expecting to be a massively shocking centre of attention "ta da" contestant. The build up in the press- him apparently insisting on a male partner, he's going to wear women's clothes him already being a professional dancer etc etc. While the only one of those that's garnering a reaction is the last one.

I actually thought he seemed (in the Clauditorium) quite subdued- I mean, he kept dropping "I'm out, I'm me" into every sentence as if he was expecting a reaction, but he just didn't get one. And why should he? It's 2023, he's not the first openly gay contestant, he's not the first contestant to dance with someone the same sex. When the camera wasn't on him, he almost seemed uncomfortable to be sitting there. Kept fiddling with his hands and looking down and was always a second late reacting to what other people were saying.

I think he's actually going to prove to be quite fragile. And I'll probably end up feeling sorry for him.

But by heck the J- word and the weeping nans are going to be something else.

It's going to be an interesting ride for sure.

@EineReiseDurchDieZeit yes, that’s exactly what I mean.

Leyton is already getting criticism on strictly social channels, and I saw he replied to one of them - I just don't think its fair on him to have invited him in the first place.

I don't really understand what he means