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STRICTLY COME DANCING 2023

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magicalkitty · 04/08/2023 19:01

The first three celebrities will be revealed on The One Show tonight!

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Gothambutnotahamster · 21/08/2023 12:49

@Mrsjayy I don't like him as he makes everything about himself & doesn't showcase his partner very well. Neil is worse so i like him even less but Johannes is nearly as bad.

Compared to someone like Katya or Gio who can bring the best out in their partners (even when they're not very good) and makes the dance all about the partner.

Gothambutnotahamster · 21/08/2023 12:51

Anton was my least favourite as a dancer for the same reasons (plus he made even good partners look ridiculous) but he's my absolute favourite as a judge. My opinion of him has totally changed!

MavisMcMinty · 21/08/2023 14:16

Gothambutnotahamster · 21/08/2023 12:51

Anton was my least favourite as a dancer for the same reasons (plus he made even good partners look ridiculous) but he's my absolute favourite as a judge. My opinion of him has totally changed!

Same! Irritated me immensely as a pro dancer (and he really couldn’t dance Latin very well), with his “comedy” routines. But he’s great as a judge. In other judge-related opinion, Craig is now the least qualified judge of them all, compared with Anton, Shirley and Motsi.

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 21/08/2023 15:59

Anton's red trousered SAAAMBAAA with Patsy Palmer is one of the worst dances to ever grace Strictly. There's no trace of it on YouTube

Twonewcats · 21/08/2023 16:23

Some of these comments have really confused me.

Re PP saying Matthew Cutler being closeted while doing Strictly - he was married to Nicole Cutler at the time, and afaik he's never suggested he's not straight.

And Joe McFadden is straight.

ChessieFL · 21/08/2023 16:26

Craig may be the least qualified but he’s probably still the judge whose opinion I most respect. Anton is a good judge too. Motsi never says anything useful and Shirley’s comments are all biased on whether she likes the contestant or not.

EvilRingahBitch · 21/08/2023 17:11

Joe McFadden has definitely said he's straight, and barring a rather nasty anonymous thing on Twitter at the time of his victory I've never seen anything concrete to suggest otherwise - he's a bit camp and has played several gay roles but that's not evidence. Why would he lie?

OTOH Matthew Cutler is extremely private but it's widely assumed that he's gay and I'd bet you ready money that he is. Marriage could be either a youthful misunderstanding or a visa issue (there was a lot of that in international dance in the old days, but obviously it's a criminal offence so you can't ever own up to it).

Lentilweaver · 21/08/2023 17:13

Layton is already getting on my every last nerve.

Been rather put off by John Whaite's comments about falling in love with Johannes. Why would he say that out loud? Disrespectful to his partner.

Mrsjayy · 21/08/2023 17:18

Lentilweaver · 21/08/2023 17:13

Layton is already getting on my every last nerve.

Been rather put off by John Whaite's comments about falling in love with Johannes. Why would he say that out loud? Disrespectful to his partner.

@Lentilweaver John waite has pissed me right off. He's so dramatic it was all so un necessary 🙄

Gothambutnotahamster · 21/08/2023 17:25

I assume it was to garner publicity for his book @Mrsjayy - do really feel sorry for his (apparently long suffering!) fiancé though!

Mrsjayy · 21/08/2023 17:27

Gothambutnotahamster · 21/08/2023 17:25

I assume it was to garner publicity for his book @Mrsjayy - do really feel sorry for his (apparently long suffering!) fiancé though!

Yes he's bringing out his "memoirs " like he's Oscar wild or something 😃

Mrsjayy · 21/08/2023 17:29

Wilde* it's all very dramatic he's not allowed to mention Johannes response for legal reasons. (Johannes also has a book out)

REP22 · 21/08/2023 17:43

ChessieFL · 21/08/2023 16:26

Craig may be the least qualified but he’s probably still the judge whose opinion I most respect. Anton is a good judge too. Motsi never says anything useful and Shirley’s comments are all biased on whether she likes the contestant or not.

I agree. Craig is the "panto villain" of the team, but he is very often the voice of reason. I like him.

I like the contestants this year but sadly I feel that Layton is going to grate on people (or, at least, me). But perhaps that might be a deliberate 'casting' choice?

John Waite wasn't being particularly fair to his partner or Johannes with his comments about being in love, assuming they didn't know what he was going to say. It's easy to see how the Strictly curse works though, it's the same for acting. I remember back in the 1990s, Colin Firth and Jennifer Ehle were a couple for a while after filming Pride and Prejudice for the BBC. One of them (I think it was Colin) said "Acting is very conducive to falling in love". And it does happen, many many times over. Johannes must have been strong to have achieved all he has in his life so far, but there does seem to be a vulnerability about him that's made me annoyed at John Waite for talking about their partnership.

I've done a bit of acting in my time and it's a strange old thing. You are so close with your fellow cast members and crew, working and existing as such a tight unit, revolving around each other, sometimes acting out intense emotions, and then the last night is over, the set is struck and that's it. Very strange. I wonder how many Strictly partnerships have gone on to be actual lasting friendships? Does Graziano still go out for a chippy tea with Kym Marsh's family? Does Jowita tag along to the bird hides with Hamza? Working so closely and intensely with someone for all that time and then it suddenly stopping altogether one week. It's almost like a mini-bereavement.

Twonewcats · 21/08/2023 17:51

REP22 · 21/08/2023 17:43

I agree. Craig is the "panto villain" of the team, but he is very often the voice of reason. I like him.

I like the contestants this year but sadly I feel that Layton is going to grate on people (or, at least, me). But perhaps that might be a deliberate 'casting' choice?

John Waite wasn't being particularly fair to his partner or Johannes with his comments about being in love, assuming they didn't know what he was going to say. It's easy to see how the Strictly curse works though, it's the same for acting. I remember back in the 1990s, Colin Firth and Jennifer Ehle were a couple for a while after filming Pride and Prejudice for the BBC. One of them (I think it was Colin) said "Acting is very conducive to falling in love". And it does happen, many many times over. Johannes must have been strong to have achieved all he has in his life so far, but there does seem to be a vulnerability about him that's made me annoyed at John Waite for talking about their partnership.

I've done a bit of acting in my time and it's a strange old thing. You are so close with your fellow cast members and crew, working and existing as such a tight unit, revolving around each other, sometimes acting out intense emotions, and then the last night is over, the set is struck and that's it. Very strange. I wonder how many Strictly partnerships have gone on to be actual lasting friendships? Does Graziano still go out for a chippy tea with Kym Marsh's family? Does Jowita tag along to the bird hides with Hamza? Working so closely and intensely with someone for all that time and then it suddenly stopping altogether one week. It's almost like a mini-bereavement.

Yep similar to a really intense holiday romance ending 😭

Twonewcats · 21/08/2023 17:53

EvilRingahBitch · 21/08/2023 17:11

Joe McFadden has definitely said he's straight, and barring a rather nasty anonymous thing on Twitter at the time of his victory I've never seen anything concrete to suggest otherwise - he's a bit camp and has played several gay roles but that's not evidence. Why would he lie?

OTOH Matthew Cutler is extremely private but it's widely assumed that he's gay and I'd bet you ready money that he is. Marriage could be either a youthful misunderstanding or a visa issue (there was a lot of that in international dance in the old days, but obviously it's a criminal offence so you can't ever own up to it).

I don't think Joe is particularly camp.
But why is it assumed Matthew C is gay? He's never said he is, and apparently the chemistry between him and Alesha Dixon was red hot.

Twonewcats · 21/08/2023 17:56

If Jo has a book out too, it'll be interesting to hear his take on it too. Although John's fiance would probably disagree.
It's a bit amusing that John released his book about his life but didn't expect everyone to be so focussed on him saying he loved Johannes 🙈

Lentilweaver · 21/08/2023 17:58

ooh Matthew Cutler was my favourite of the old guard. I thought he was amazing.

Ellmau · 21/08/2023 18:12

If Abbey Clancy can win the public vote, and Ore Oduba can turn public opinion around then anything is possible.

They both had the benefit of engaging personalities, and lack of arrogance. I'm not getting that from Layton at this stage.

EvilRingahBitch · 21/08/2023 18:19

Bringing two strands of the thread together, there are great photos of Christine Bleakley on holiday in Sitges with Matthew Cutler (her pro from the previous year), Ian Waite, and Mark Foster, with all the boys looking amazing in Speedos. The Sun hilariously tried to spin this as her having a romance with Mark and making Adrian Chiles jealous.

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EvilRingahBitch · 21/08/2023 18:25

Ellmau · 21/08/2023 18:12

If Abbey Clancy can win the public vote, and Ore Oduba can turn public opinion around then anything is possible.

They both had the benefit of engaging personalities, and lack of arrogance. I'm not getting that from Layton at this stage.

Ore and Abbey got on a lot of people's nerves to start with. No, I don't expect Layton to win over the public's heart, but it's not impossible.

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 21/08/2023 18:26

I personally thought it was a well known fact Matthew C was gay hence the split from Nicole and I am now baffled

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Romeiswheretheheartis · 21/08/2023 18:30

Just googled Matthew and he's 49! I have to keep reminding myself they don't stay frozen in time when they leave Strictly!

I have a family member working on Strictly this year, starting next week, so am looking forward to getting all the inside gossip!

Lentilweaver · 21/08/2023 18:31

What do they do after they leave Strictly? I worry for them. What is poor Aljaz doing? Other than being a doting dad.

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