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Rain Dogs anyone watching?

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crochetmonkey74 · 04/04/2023 21:12

What do you guys think?

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ProfYaffle · 11/04/2023 19:56

Found it, Harden Road, Stockwood, Bristol.

CaptainMyCaptain · 11/04/2023 21:21

It looks like the same place the friend lived in AIBU but filmed from different angles .

Notfeelinglikemyselftoday · 11/04/2023 21:43

I may be being really dim, but who is Iris' father? If Selby wanted to adopt then surely it wasn't him. And Costello was an imposter, right? She grew up in what was seemingly a normal house (and I assume income bracket), went to a good uni etc...

Agree that the acting was great and cinematography a dream. I thought some moments were absolute gold and others cheap thrills.

The ending was infuriatingly dull. In fact a lot of episode 8 felt like filler. And Iris was a total spare part.p

CaptainMyCaptain · 11/04/2023 22:00

Her family life wasn't normal but I'm not sure if this is a Spoilers thread or not. Costello mentions she hasn't had sex in 10 years - about Iris's age - I wonder if she was raped. She doesn't mention it but it could explain a lot.

RosaMoline · 11/04/2023 22:35

Crumpetdisappointment · 11/04/2023 18:37

what did her mother do to her?
do we know?

Yes. As awful as it was (SA) I felt this was skimped over. I wanted to know more, no matter how harrowing.
Why did Costello say she was ‘scarred’ down there? I don’t recall an explanation for that.
The Funeral Home scenes.. I realise this took a fair bit of artistic licence, and also it was meant to be a family run business…but as someone who works on one, Gloria’s behaviour (making crude comments about the deceased), behaving inappropriately & having your mates in the mortuary would be gross misconduct & an instant dismissal.
I did binge watch & enjoy, but found the ending very abrupt and unsatisfactory. I guess there’ll be a season 2 possibly?

Tellmethespoiler · 11/04/2023 22:43

I assumed the scarred down there was from childbirth. Maybe that’s wrong.

RosaMoline · 11/04/2023 22:46

Tellmethespoiler · 11/04/2023 22:43

I assumed the scarred down there was from childbirth. Maybe that’s wrong.

Yes, I guess that’s it.

Changeau · 11/04/2023 22:49

It's awful
And the kid was ridiculous, going on about the sopranos. As if. Pretentious bollocks.

dayswithaY · 11/04/2023 23:00

It’s put me right off Ade Edmondson.

Jellyheadbang · 12/04/2023 02:31

dayswithaY · 11/04/2023 23:00

It’s put me right off Ade Edmondson.

Yeah same. He was vile in this.
given some of the issues that the writer has been linked to, alleged disingenuousness (is this a word?), and the general formulaic feel of the programme , I question his artistic integrity and career choices.
On the other hand, I'm sure I've seen him in something else where he was a really nasty character, maybe he prefers roles detached from his comedic past?
Whatever we think, it has generally rave reviews so it's not going to harm his or DMC's careers any.

Along with Jack monroe and the aforementioned caitlin moran, the media luvvies' darlings are The Emporer's New Clothes of candid stories of a vividly imagined rock bottom: gritty working class life, illustrated by palatable poverty pretenders, never feckless enough not to have a decent grasp of our language and grammar, are still creatives, a bit rude and quirky but friends with The Right People, seen at The Right Places and able to assimilate by wearing and surrounding themselves with instantly recognisable trappings of the chattering classes.

To a lesser extent people like frankie boyle and Damien Barr have done this, not to the extent of inventing stories, smoothing rough edges just enough to ingratiate and conform to the expectations of the circles they want to move in.
Puts me in mind of the doolittle's social mobility and Alfred's speech about middle class morality in my fair lady/pygmalion!

There were elements of that programme DMC did with her brother, the country thing, that were OK, but his character was a direct rip off of Gareth from the office.
There are other gripes but I cant remember them.
DMC is starting to remind me of a less Hollywood Rebel Wilson. Crass, irreverent, sort of funny in a lazy droll deadpan show offy way but ultimately the same character in every production.

I wish we had more authentic women in the public eye, not enough to just have Kathy Burke and briefly mhairi black.
I used to love Katherine Ryan but either she's changed or I outgrew her.
When people reach a certain standard of fame, or in real life: managerial positions or become councillors etc they often change and lose the very essence which made them popular in the first place, the things about them we fell in love with are no longer there because they have to maintain a standard which will keep them on their pedestal.

I'm derailing with an insomnia fueled malformed mildly political rant 😴 but as a neurodivergent, once I spot someone's become inauthentic it puts me right off them.
I feel like Kathy bates in misery when she kicked off about the poor continuity at the kids' Saturday movie matinee (you cockadoodies!)

the80sweregreat · 12/04/2023 07:16

Ade Edmondson was in ' back to life' and was horrible in that too

dayswithaY · 12/04/2023 07:32

Reading about Cash Calloway, not sure how accurate it is, but seems she’s rather more privileged than she would have us believe. Why does everyone have to pretend to be a struggling, working class hero? If you’re a good writer just write, surely?

Changeau · 12/04/2023 07:34

I found the bit when she told everyone she had a first from Durham one of the most pretentious scenes I've seen on TV for a while.

CaptainMyCaptain · 12/04/2023 10:14

Why did Costello say she was ‘scarred’ down there? I don’t recall an explanation for that. That was one of the things that made me think Iris was a result of rape.

CaptainMyCaptain · 12/04/2023 10:16

Changeau · 12/04/2023 07:34

I found the bit when she told everyone she had a first from Durham one of the most pretentious scenes I've seen on TV for a while.

I wasn't sure if she was meant to be telling the truth as the other women had patronisingly told her 'she should have gone to university'. She did go to university because that's where she met Shelby but, given their chaotic lifestyle, it would have been surprising if she had got a first.

devoncreamtea · 12/04/2023 16:50

I thought it was absolute shite. I watched all of it - regrettably - and my overwhelming opinion is that no one who has ever really been poor has anything to do with making it. It was grubby poverty porn, with totally unrealistic characters and a rubbish non storyline.

Morewineplease10 · 12/04/2023 16:58

I completely loved it.

The characters, the writing, the acting, all of it.

BonnieLisbon · 12/04/2023 23:10

I've finished watching this now. I enjoyed it. I think Am I Being Unreasonable and Rain Dogs were a bit original and really held my attention. I've only watched bits of This Country but I don't think DMC plays the same character in everything based on what I've seen.

CaptainMyCaptain · 13/04/2023 09:51

I don't think her character was at all the same in TC, AIBU or Rain Dogs. She also played a woman accused of being a witch in Puritan times in a series I forget the name of.

Cheekymaw · 13/04/2023 10:29

I love DMC but found this utter shite. Watched three episodes. Really dreadful writing . Like it's aimed at Guardian readers' toxic single mum fantasies(used to read The Guardian myself until it turned into a misogynistic cesspit). I doubt the writer has ever met a working class or underclass person in their lives. Vile and not funny.

Cheekymaw · 13/04/2023 10:31

@crochetmonkey74 agree, same. I actually found myself getting quite angry tbh.

Cheekymaw · 13/04/2023 10:33

@devoncreamtea spot on.

Jellyheadbang · 13/04/2023 10:45

the80sweregreat · 12/04/2023 07:16

Ade Edmondson was in ' back to life' and was horrible in that too

That must be whT I'm thinking of. I bloody loved back to life. Funny thing is I don't think it was particularly representative of a woman's journey after a lifetime in jail but it had a certain charm and slight magical realism element that even the most horrible bits didn't feel as gratuitous as this show.
In respinse to another poster, i dont understand this need to play up working class roots either
I'm from a background of severe poverty and horrors and beleive me, NOBODY in real life is interested, it's stuff people look aghast at when I do mention things I've experienced and 9 times out of 10 the response is 'oh but you seem so normal'
People can't and don't want to comprehend it.

I have no idea how it suddenly becomes attractive when you're in the public eye.
jarvis cocker's common people still resonates so many years later and I think people who embellish their past with this sort of stoy do it for some sort of street cred points?
makes them seem more interesting and 'deep'?

when someone seems possibly disingenuous about their past, people dont challenge or query further because they will look like a c*nt and adding to the trauma.

The scene ref the university summed it up really, nobody from the chattering classes actually wants to 'know' anybody like that unless they can say 'oh shes a single mum BUT she has a masters', someone said to me they can see i had 'good breeding' once.

Having worked in and around supporting people for years, i come across the patronising attitudes towards the 'deserving poor' all the time.

Not all, but some people i know who do 'good work' sometimes seem to look down on people they perceive to have low aspirations.

The workers are often middle class and have uni education to become professionals in their chosen field.
in private they talk about people they work with disparagingly, always dressed up with a laugh or 'bless', re smell of their homes, the distasteful dress sense, general life choices...
they say it laughingly or in pitying tones and no matter how lovely they are to those they work with, its clear they absolutely see themselves as a different class or even breed.

the same people are almost obsequious to those who have a creative talent, skill, higher level qualifications, previously good jobs, well spoken but have just 'fallen on hard times' or had a run of bad luck.

I've brought it up more than once and it just serves to make colleagues talk to me less (or treat me like a bleeding heart woke!)

'Back in the day' anyone could go to uni but as fees become more prohibitive it became something largely only accessible to those with money.

I see a lot of organisations now offering alternative routes into professions, apprenticeship type roles to degree level, learn on the job, bursaries etc so hopefully the pendulum is swinging back around to produce a more balanced workforce.

Cheekymaw · 13/04/2023 10:51

@Jellyheadbang
Couldn't agree more. I take it you know wee Mhairi is full of shite as well?

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