Rise and fall Sundays 9pm

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Not 100% sure what it's about but I'm gonna give it a go and didn't see a thread.

Google tells me it's from the creators of " The Traitors" a BBC hit from late last year and spawned versions around the world.

From what I can tell there's an elevator and meant to be rich and poor people and you can rise or fall in this " society" as I say I'm not too sure but let's see if others are giving it a go or know more.

I won't be watching live though unfortunately

I may be in the minority here but Jeff is hilarious.

Rossi for win!

They have put Jeff up there so he's the easiest to boot out for them.

On another note is anyone watching tempting fortune?

This show is awful but I can't stop watching.

It's a fascinating insight into behaviour.

Jeff makes me laugh with his 8 business talk all the time.

From what I've seen so far being successful in business has nothing to do with what they are actually doing here. Jeff doesn't think he can do better, he just thinks he's more deserving.

Jeff gives me the ick, the heebie jeebies and the rage all at the same time! What a vile man he is. If this is what he's like on telly I actually dread to think how he must treat his family or his employees.

Me too. Such a major ick.

I follow Rossi on insta (I notice they made him say he was a fashion merchandiser rather than anything to do with social media) .He's absolutely brilliant and really funny. I think he is still holding back a bit.

@Togoodtobeforgotten

No is it worth a watch? More trash I suppose but that seems to be my diet at the mo and things are v difficult with one of my DC so I need all the trash / escapism I can get!

I am currently also on Love is Blind Season 4

I not entirely sure Jack has any real feelings for Syndney. The moment she was out of sight he was shrugging and saying 'well this isn't Love Island' I want to win

Yeah I am kind of confused how they jumped into bed together on the first night, when they’d apparently never met before?

Also do not like Jeff - he seems manipulative and really bitchy and vindictive for no reason other than being annoyed that he’s not in the penthouse. They’ve realised the only way to eliminate him is from the penthouse - hopefully he doesn’t manage to get his mates up there and they vote him out.

@kenyaswhiterefrigerator I agree

Me too, yuck, yuck and yuck...can you imagine having to hug him, not sure I could.

Also I’ve realised that the first 4 people voted out/down are all POC and now it’s nearly all white men at the top…..not great is it!

Unfortunately birds of a feather flock together mentality seems to be at play here.

I was just about to say this... although was unsure if I'd get shot down, hopefully not on MN! Seems like get rid of the people of colour and then the women... Marina was annoying but James and Connor massively threw her under the bus. I'm also not a fan of Matt...his 'I'm super calm and compassionate' demeanor, not buying it. He came across very nastily I thought, calling Marina a 'fucking snake' behind her back, as if how dare she have an opinion when he was so very superior. Takes one to know one!

The rulers realised that Jeff would keep coming up in that lift as the Grafters were desperate to be rid.

Be interesting to see if they do manage to vote him out going forward or if people may turn on the likes of Connor or James instead.

It's interesting that the grafters are likeable until they go upstairs and Rachel is far nicer since becoming a grafter

I think being a Ruler is probably quite stressful in that you’re always being judged and trying not to be voted out, so it probably doesn’t bring out the best qualities in people, whereas the Grafters can just relax and have a laugh with no pressure.

@kc431 good point.

Although when Matt said to Sydney as Leaders they had to get up, get dressed and get on with things I wondered what they were doing ?

It appears they are doing equal amounts based on what is shown. Are their tasks edited ?

Just a thought but whoever goes up last as a Grafter to become a Leader is surely in the best position.

You can't be eliminated and all the remaining Grafters are behind you and want you to win.

I can't see the format working going forward unless there are changes because it's a quite straightforward strategy

Absolutely and that's a where the programme will be flawed because people will realise the longer they stay as a gratfer the better.

True, but I think the work shifts are going to get more gross and demeaning as the days go on.... there's always a catch.

I'd have thought Ramona could have picked up some tops from home....

Oh nooo not Ramona...

At least they’ve got her to put a T-shirt on with the regulation basement gear.