Yellowjackets season 2 🐝

[SpookyBlackCat]

Is anyone else a Yellowjackets fan? I think season 2 will be released soon. I’m currently re-watching season 1 because I think I probably missed a lot. But it would be good to have done watching buddies.

Shauna is deeply traumatised - and who wouldn't be after a plane crash, survival in the wilderness and all the things that happened, plus she's going through a pregnancy at the same time and we still don't know how that ends up. I don't think she's ever figured out who she is - she's trying to live Jackie's life for her, out of guilt, but without ever establishing her own identity. She doesn't know if she's Shauna or Jackie, or whether the experience in the wilderness made her a victim or a killer.

Caillie has suffered from being brought up in this environment. She doesn't really understand who her mother is either but she wants her life to be more exciting and now that Shauna has confessed to her, she thinks her mother is cool for the first time. I think she'll continue to get close to the cop but ultimately end up killing him - like mother like daughter - in an attempt to protect Shauna when she finds out that he's close to the truth. I think the dressing up as a dead yellowjacket for halloween in season 1 is preshadowing the fact that she wants to emulate he mother and the other yellowjackets.

I agree @Kittylickingplate Walter is too good to be true. However, I think Misty will prevail.

@HalloumiFries I like your thinking about Callie wearing the Yellowjackets outfit as a foreshadowing. It is the kind of show where you wonder if every little thing is significant. Clever writing and production - Great for creating fan sub reddit threads. I like the details - Lottie's "sunshine honey" in the B&B gift basket, the film titles behind Van in her shop (very approriate) e.g. Into the Wild, Mean Girls, Bound.

I wonder if the the little wooden wolf Javi carved that Shauna put in the upstairs window meant he would be a lone wolf (on his own).
Random thoughts on this episode:
Javi looked way too clean to have been on his own for 2 months.
Natalie's lack of roots also disturbs me (has been since season 1)
Is the Travis actor just a bad actor? he seems wooden to me and so I can't understand why Nat is so obsessed with him. His reaction to Javi's return was lacklustre. Are we just meant to think he is "cut off" due to trauma.

I think the carved wolf somehow relates to the Roman references/Romulus and Remus type linkage. It reminded me also of GOT ‘the lone wolf dies, but the pack survives’. I like the mysticism and animal references. The white moose was interesting, in most ancient cultures white animals are sacred and I literally said out loud “don’t kill it!” when Nat had a clear shot.

I think Nat is attracted to unpleasant and uncommunicative Travis because she grew up with a violent and miserable father. My own therapy really highlighted to me why I had chosen certain men in life. I can see Nat’s reasoning as a teen, and as an adult you can see the trauma bonding and codependency with the empty shell that realistically Travis was from the get go, has ruined her. I actually identify the most with Nat I think…. Not identify totally, just the way the character is as an adult makes logical sense as a trajectory. I’ve had the time and space and ability to break patterns, but I know how complex they can be and become part of who we are. I may be reading too much into all of this 😂

I think Shauna yes lived what she assumed to be Jackie’s trajectory but her heart was never in it, which is why I think she’ll self destruct until the final season then and go back to the cabin and go through some kind of mental and emotional rebirth.

I think like a lot of good stories, there’s a mix of cultures and religions and legends etc all worked together. I think it’s a bit of everything including native peoples symbols and maybe even trigonometry as it’s mentioned so often. and it reminded me also of the Picts/ Pictish symbols, alchemy. It’s all interesting and I’ll be so annoyed if we get to the end and none of it made sense. Nobody needs another Lost!

Episode 5 seems to have picked up the pace. Have just found out that there's a two-week gap now until the next episode and am gutted, really want to keep up the momentum now.

Can anyone tell me if any of the present day episodes have made reference to the length of time they spent in the wilderness?

Wait, a two week gap???! Why? I was just thinking today how annoying it is not be able to binge a few episodes at once.

19 months, was in first series.

Interesting to see Misty destroying the flight box came out, I was wondering when it would!! Also wondering if they will go back and get Lil Miss Musical for dinner.

Glad the pace has picked up. Gutted a 2wk wait now!!

Did anyone clock the black eyed demon lady with toweling headscarf when Natalie was doing therapy with Lottie in present day, thoughts?! Is this Javi’s “friend”?

What do we think of the connection between Javi’s woman in the tree and Sammy’s woman in the tree?

https://mashable.com/article/yellowjackets-season-2-episode-5-javi

Sorry, I didn't phrase my question very well - I should have asked if there has been anything from outside the Yellowjackets circle to verify the 19 months. I can only recall the survivors themselves saying this was the duration. Others talk about surviving the plane crash and having to survive in the wilderness but I'm not sure they have ever verified the duration. They may well have done which would put to rest the extremely hare-brained theory which came to me yesterday.

Have seen the two week break mentioned in a few places online. Very annoying.

I'm not sure I can/should watch the baby episode.

@BeefyWellington l’ll not spoil it for you if you haven’t seen it. It is not as horrendous as the roasting of Jackie.

@BeefyWellington i can PM you what happens if you want to know? It is a very intense episode.

It is sad but not too gory. It was as well done as it could be.

I feel like it explained so much more about Shauna, why she gravitated back to Jeff and had Callie.

I am wondering if they go get Crystal…. And if they eat the placenta… that would be logical.

Do you think Lottie offered/is going to offer the child up, what with Shauna’s sense of threat from her/the group?

Very intense episode.

That dream sequence when they are feasting, my heart dropped.

Thanks - my husband has given me a brief synopsis. I just can't make my mind up if I should watch it or not, as it sounds tough. We turned it off last night as I was in a bit of a low mood anyway so didn't seem wise.

Watched it. I read exactly what happened beforehand to prepare. It wasn't as bad as I expected. Still awful obviously, but I think knowing what was going to happen helped.

Poor Shauna.

I've caught up now. That was intense and heartbreaking. The younger Shauna's acting was amazing. I'm going to be haunted by the last few minutes for a while.

On a different note - what is going on with Ben? His flashbacks/forwards/dreams are formatted differently to others. It's like alternate realities bleeding through.

@HalloumiFries no idea about Ben… he doesn’t look well, sepsis?

@HalloumiFries

You read this?
https://collider.com/yellowjackets-season-2-coach-ben-flashbacks-explained/

Talking about the analog vhs effects used in the intro and for Ben’s flashbacks. Could be for time setting (the wardrobe of the men in the flashbacks is so mid nineties too!!) or to link it to something else.

My main thought is Van and her video shop…

Fantastic link, thanks. I can't work out (I know, that's the point) if the boyfriend scenes are Ben's fantasies of what life could have been, or a genuine alternate reality. Obviously the latest episode showed another alternate reality but without the analogue effects. Makes me wonder how much of anything we have seen is real. Perhaps nobody survives and the present day scenes are a "what-if" scenario?

@HalloumiFries the last of the scenes with Ben and Paul where he says he’ll leave the high school behind to be with him and live authentically is not real. We know this because they watch the yellow jackets plane crash in the news on tv and because he obviously has been present in the forest all this time.

I think he’s reached a real low point, losing his partner/life, his leg. And now he’s stuck in the forest with a bunch of girls turned cannibal who could easily outrun him. I’d be feeling pretty terrible and depressed too in this situation. He’s also starving as he didn’t feast with the others.

I think 8 of them did survive and now the situation has turned full circle they will be brought back together again. Just wondering who the eighth person is, as only 7 so far.

I think the alternate reality scenes with Shauna were to show the depth of her love for the baby, how utterly hellish it would be to try and raise a baby when you are starving, and the extent of her fear/distrust of the other girls, especially Lottie.

She’s one of the strongest and most important characters in there so it was a real exploration of her character and explained a lot of why she is the way she is in the present.

As for why the episode ended the way it did, it has to be realistic and that is likely what would happen. Also to do otherwise would detract from the rest of the stories going on.

I'm a bit fed up with the Coach Ben hallucinations, he's not that interesting a character. He needs to up his game, Jackie wasn't useful/had no role in the camp and look what happened to her Ben really let Shauna down - I know he couldn't deliver the baby any better than Misty but he could have given the illusion of control, some reassurance instead of letting Shauna know it was all going wrong. I guess he is just too depressed.
I guess his zones outs to a happier life show he is a hovering between the reality of the camp and death but for me, it's over done.

When everyone greets Shauna and the baby all happy you know it's an alternate reality. It's similar to the dream like scene when everyone welcomed Jackie back into the hut with a mug of cocoa which she drinks and (dies) and Lottie in the mall scene where she is about to eat fast food but Laura Lee stops her and tells her (IIRC) that she needs to wake up. The baby in the Shauna scenes feeds (and dies) but Shauna does not drink the tea she is given and survives. It's kind of like Persephone in the Underworld - she is told not to eat the food or you have to stay. I agree @Robinni it also shows Shauna's fears about Lottie wanting to somehow "steal" the baby. Poor Shauna, I feel I can forgive her anything now.

I’m so shocked at the ending of that last episode, poor Shauna. And Imagine going through labour like that without any medical help…. I can understand Shauna’s character is shaped by all the trauma that she has been through.

I wonder if Callie knows about her mums other baby she had in the wilderness?

When I was watching season 1, I actually thought Shauna was pregnant with Callie in the wilderness, until I figured out the timing wasn’t right for Callie’s age lol.

And I think coach Ben is losing his grip on reality, that’s what his flashbacks are about. I don’t think he’s doing too well, mentally or physically. And I think he’s frightened by the girls after seeing what happened to Jackie.

I’m still quite horrified about the placenta being brought out like pizza from an oven…

If they have any sense, it’s dinner.

Don’t know about you but it brought back a lot of labour/first time breastfeeding horrors for me! You really feel for her. I think the experience will have massively shaped her character and driven her back to Jeff to grieve, so explains a lot.

Looking forward to this Friday’s episode.

That last episode was a harsh watch. Poor Shauna. I love Melanie Lynskey and Sophie Nelisse who plays her as a teen is amazing. Samantha Hanratty as teen Misty is great too.