Vanderpump Rules affair!!

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I can't be the only Bravo fan on here can I? I have no one IRL to talk to about this!!

Clear your diaries

I’m amazed they kept it as a three part reunion considering Andy did a sit down with Ariana, Tom and Raquel individually as well as the group reunion

Interestingly Peter now believes the affair started way earlier

https://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/peter-madrigal-i-have-proof-of-tom-sandoval-raquel-affair-timeline/

We def need a timeline of which episodes it had started by.

@Mixedin did you watch Schwartz on wwhl? It was a masterclass in saying too much

@thebellagio no not yet - had forgotten because of all the clips. Even he’s struggling to remember what’s true, what’s ‘Sandoval’ true & what’s a lie.

Honestly I don’t know what was funnier @mixedin - Andy’s reactions or John Owen Lowes reactions. Both were literally “stop talking!!!!l”

@thebellagio 🤣🤣

I haven't seen it yet, I can't believe I've missed all this.

Damn you work. I have the rest of the week off, which will be dedicated to VR. I might try to pull a timeline together

Has anyone seen that Sandovol has done a podcast?

Howard Mandel does stuff

I've seen a clip on insta, and as expected he's putting it on Ariana.

I'm going to watch the whole thing and will come back to discuss.

@StrawberryFizz27 I've just watched a load of clips on tiktok. My my that man he is vile

He is claiming that they were a "brand" and that he had broken up with her 2 weeks before!!

Will be interesting to see what the rest of the cast put on socials following this!

Did you see the pics together in his home town on Dec 28?

And Schwartz saying it was an open secret + he’d been trying to finish with Ariana. Suspect his reveal will be that they were over all but in name.

@IsurviveonCoffeeandWinein2021
I think they’ll all come out saying ‘I suspected’ - but not my place to say.

I’m genuinely starting to wonder how much of this is true.

the fact that at Xmas Sandoval took Raquel openly to meet his family - despite him being in a seemingly ten year long relationship. And Schwartz saying that they went on a trip together with Raquel and this Jo person and claiming that he thought they were “more or less broken up”.

I know if one of my friends had been a couple for basically a decade I would consider them both mates. if one told me they had broken up with the other, I would sure as hell send at least a text saying “sorry to hear it, are you ok?” Hence no room for this odd ambiguity.

the way Sandoval seems to have been so brazen and open - how did no one tell Ariana. Or mention something to Scheana or Lala? The whole thing is getting so messy.

either the whole cast knew and were complicit in keeping the secret (whether Ariana knew or not I don’t know) or they truly were blindsided I genuinely can’t tell anymore

It's weird that he's done a podcast now as well, surely that's what the reunion is for!

This has been my addiction for the past 3/4 weeks, when this whole thing broke I started watching it. My sis had already recommended it and I needed a housewives break.

It defo went downhill from series 9, when Jax, Stassi & co left.

So in the podcast he says that he and Arianna were so distant and when he mentioned it to her that he was pulling away she was like oh I hadn't noticed (along those lines)

I'm thinking Arianna had started to become more aware something was up and maybe he had someone else just not who and that's what's caused the whole thing to blow up.

Lala and Katie can't stand her anyway and Schena really defended her this season so that might explain her reaction.

Far too invested in this lol

I'm 7 mins in to the podcast and don't like this Howie guy!
Saying he doesn't understand the issue, he's not married!!

The daughter put it well, it's like Chandler cheated on Monica with Rachel and Joey knew but didn't tell anyone!!

I've watched 2 clips of Sandavol podcast thing.

He truly is vile. Whoever is his PR needs to be fired.

The part I've seen is where he is "disgusted" that other cast members have been talking about him on thier podcasts.
He is making out that he is upset they are using him to get better ratings for thier podcasts, but you can see he is really upset that they're saying nasty things about him.

He's the type of person that insists people can only say nice things about him.
At least Jax used to agree when people called him a scumbag.

Am I being a total idiot? I can't get Bravo to play videos they have a lock sign. It says 'watch in bravo app' but I can't find a bravo app!
I want to watch the wwhl episodes mentioned above if I can. I'm only up to date on the affairs because of this thread otherwise I'd only know what's going on from the latest ep (s10/9)

I watch on Hayu so can't help with the Bravo app @twoandcooplease

@twoandcooplease I watch it via Amazon prime on hayu

Well I’ve not stomached the whole podcast but 5-6 clips. Like the clever little narcissist he’s added some true things in there- been distant, not as close, tried to hv ‘the chat’. Poor boys only option was to bang her friend. 🙄

I painfully watched the podcast.

Here is a really good synopsis if you can't be bothered

www.instagram.com/p/Cq6KSHfPx8-/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Screen grabs of synopsis

He so avoided answering the questions about whether he actually dumped her or not. Wasn't clear for 90% of the interview then he said yes he definitely dumped her

Most confusing thing was he said he took her to couples therapy to dump her. Which is surely mixed signals for her as you don't go to therapy to split up!? And he said then she started trying harder in the relationship. No shit!