Happy Valley Series 3 - BBC1 9pm starts 1 January 2023 - no spoilers - tv pace

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Just thought we could start with a dedicated thread to series three of Happy Valley.

There are 2 existing thread were fans have been discussing rewatching series 1 & 2

www.mumsnet.com/talk/telly_addicts/4694640-happy-valley-series-3-coming

www.mumsnet.com/talk/telly_addicts/4688605-happy-valley-series-3-to-be-shown-at-christmas

And for anyone who is going to binge, do you want to start your own thread?!

Same! I like a spoiler. PM the link if you find it

Don't read too much into 'our Ryan'. Neil has been in an uncle/great-uncle role for seven years and it's been made clear to us that they are close. 'Our Ryan' is a totally unremarkable bit of dialect.

Interesting - I hadn't thought of this, but I knew Alison had to be here for something specific. As someone said earlier - their isn't a single redundant word, scene, or prop in this programme - if someone so much as blows their nose there's something significant behind it.

Yes, but remember that the purpose might be characterisation and not necessarily plot. Alison's primary purpose right now is to remind us that despite her very tough exterior Catherine is a very compassionate and caring character. It's essential that we are reminded of this as the whole series hinges on the audience caring about her and her actions.

Trying to see if it’s been mentioned on the thread but can’t see it. Why is Clare dropping them off at the prison and going for a coffee? I thought a man and a woman bring Ryan in to see Tommy in prison? Has she just decided to give it a miss this time? It looks liked she was following her usual routine, parking up etc.

Yeah that's why I don't think it's any of them visiting him

Why didn’t Catherine pay for parking?

I can't find the spoiler, boo! Please anybody else PM me if they find it!

I'm so pleased to have this thread. I can't really find the words to convey in real life just how strongly I feel about Happy Valley so I'm delighted to have found my people!

I wondered that too! A teeny tiny hint perhaps that she might think she's above the law? I don't know.

It doesn't add up does it. Do they go without her and meet another woman who pretends to be Clare but that would be too far fetched, or does she usually go but gave it a miss this time. As others have said it seemed a set routine though that she parked up and then waited.

It's a bit disappointing because I'm not a Neil fan at all he spoils it a bit for me but it looks like he's going to be getting more and more screen time over the next 4 episodes

I love Neil bless him

That annoyed me too - I'm so glad I'm not the only one who got twitchy about it!

Wow another fab episode. Counting the days till next week.
I predict Ryan is actually the one who is planning revenge. He knows of the heartache and I am sure he gets stuck at school for his past and his grandma occupation. I think he has got Neil on side with him as Neil is desperate to be part of a family having lost his. I am sure Neil had a couple of daughters ? Maybe one also was hurt by TLR. ?

I would love to see Catherine and Alison do a Thelma and Louise and drive off in her landy at the end

Noooo, that strangled voice drives me mad. I like Richard, I hope he doesn't come a cropper with his digging about the Knesevics.
Loved Tommy's menacing 'I forgive you' to the terrified looking vicar. The vicar has been played like a fiddle.

I was thinking exactly the same 😀

I think the pp meant a trailer that is on the BBC site. I found it by putting "Happy Valley BBC1" into google and it brings up some little snippets.

Catherine's boss confirmed it was Neil and Claire visiting, he got an email from the prison.

I think the theory that Catherine's ex-husband actually being TLJ's father is preposterous and would be so clunky and shark-jumpy from a serious writer like Sally Wainwright. He would have had to have raped or been in a relationship with his step-daughter and Catherine not know anything about it.

I think his story line will be coming to harm or even death at the hands of the drug lords.

Watch this space for me to be proved wrong though .

How many episodes is the series?

Some posters think it's Neil who is TLR's dad, I agree it would be a bit far fetched if he was. I don't think Catherine's ex is the father of Ryan either, I really hope not.
I think there's 6 episodes.

I wondered if Claire was unaware what Niel was getting up to and some other woman was going in with them. I do hope so.

I wondered this too but if so why do they all pretend they're going to Leeds when they're actually in Sheffield. Clare's shame at lying to her sister in that phone call makes no sense unless she knows what's going on.

The little 18 second trailer? It certainly indicates that there's more drama to come!

There’s a 1min 23 trailer on YT.

I have no sympathy whatsoever for Fizel the pharmacist. He chose to deal drugs to vulnerable people like Jo and deserves to be in hot water. My only worry is that he's so spineless he will give Jo up to the gang. I don't think they were having an affair or that he fathered Jo's youngest as some have suggested. I think he's slept with Jo a handful of times as payment for the drugs as Jo has no access to money because of her controlling husband. He's a complete weasel.

No Contact orders regarding children are usually made in the Family Court. They don't need renewing as they usually run until the child is 18. A variation of such an order would only be possible if one of the parents made an application to the court but in these circumstances there's no way a court would revoke it.

There must have been Family Court proceedings in the past (although this hasn't been mentioned) to give Catherine the legal right to exercise parental responsibility and care for Ryan through a Residence or Special Guardianship Order. As such Catherine would be a named party in any further applications to the court so would know and obviously object.

I don't know if No Contact orders can be made within criminal proceedings but if so the conditions would surely not be less stringent than in the Family Court?

Also, given the severity of TLR's offences, if he were eventually released from prison he would be subject to a life license and conditions of that would be that he does not approach or try to contact Catherine or Ryan. Surely then he would not be able to see Ryan inside prison whilst still serving time?

Any Probation Officers on here to clarify?

I think it's in one of those.

Aaargh, yes, of course I meant Ryan's father (Catherine's ex not being)!

Off to look!

I can't wait to see Claire's explanation for betraying Catherine like that. It's bound to be something good. She looked so guilty and it obviously doesn't sit right with her which is why she decided to sit the prison visit out and wait in the cafe. I think there must be some sort of threat to someone involved. Or maybe Ryan has initiated the prison visits himself and he's forced Claire and Neil into taking him. Afterall Claire has given the impression that Ryan confides in her more than Catherine. Perhaps Ryan is deliberately keeping Catherine out of it.