The Traitors BBC1

[JaneJeffer]

Can't see a thread. What is this shite?

The spoiler, if it's what I'm thinking of, can be read two ways. The group can learn the traitors are trying to recruit or they can learn the traitors have recruited, the trailer doesn't make it clear which.

There's a second trailer. I saw it tonight just before the footie.

A very different spoiler to the recruit one.

Not axed. New season of The Circle starts 28 December.

Not seen it and can't find it...please could you PM me a link?

@ReneBumsWombats I don't know how to do that i'm afraid. I can try to pm you the spoiler info tho?

Yes, go for it. I usually try to avoid them but I can't wait until Wednesday! Thank you.

Shit I thought I was pming that 🙈🙈

I don't think it reveals anything significant, just that more twists are coming, but ask to have it deleted just in case!

Yes I have.

Apologies to anyone trying to avoid this stuff.

That's the US version I believe, the UK one has been axed.

FFS I wish you hadn’t put a spoiler here.

As for the revealing of votes I agree with the poster upthread who said they must film lots and lots of reveals and then show the best one as it were.

Can you explain what you mean? Surely they don’t try out different votes? And surely the first response is going to be the best?

If they film lots of reveals they'll have to make sure people are wearing the right clothes for consistency when they edit the footage.

By filming lots of votes/ takes around the round table I’m guessing it goes something like this.;
ok so we will start the first take with Rayan, who do you think did it and why. Rayan reveals his board. Then next person is Aaron, then Wilf, then Meryl and so on.
Producers ok so now we will do another take this time stating with Theo.
Producers: ok so for the purpose of TV we will do another take this time we are going to start with Andrea. Andrea reveal your answer please, now it’s Maddy turn now it’s Hannah and so on.
They will do many many takes every time the contestants will have to stick to their original answer, they cannot change their vote, but because if ‘filming’ they will have done so many takes that they will not be aware which take us being shown so in reality Amanda us not always the last one to reveal. In reality maybe 5 different contestants will have revealed their board last. So it isn’t obvious to the contestants at all. We see a tiny amount of what has actually happened.

Thank you for explaining, and I understand that bit, it's the reactions. Do they use the third lot of reveals, but the reactions from the first time?

I'm sorry! I thought I was sending a pm 🙈

I think in reality it will be extremely difficult to correctly guess who is a traitor. They don’t do anything to jeopardise the tasks they just either agree with others or subtly suggest targets.
Amos had the clever idea of saying let’s try and work out who is a faithful rather than who is a traitor.
Maddy us on the money with Wilf but I think the fact that he threw Alyssa into the mix has helped disguise his guilt. Also Meryl is not helping things by accusing Maddy if being quite irrational.
It’s all great TV.
As an aside I once worked with someone who managed to convince everyone, including me, that another colleague was a thief. Turned out it was them that was a thief and nobody suspected them at all because through being devious they had turned everyone against the innocent colleague.

Pleasepudding yes I think through editing they use the first reveal but then edit the way it’s shown. They can use any reaction. So they might use the first reaction from say Amanda, Wilf , Maddy but the lady reaction from say Alex as she realises that Tom is going.

Last not lady,

The mole tv show had the person sabotaging the prize fund (but they were a paid stooge from the start so couldn't win)

So a different dynamic.

I still don't understand how the end works -do they just stop when x left?

I think the lack of logic in accusations would drive me mad (but I am a logical person) -hence wishing Ivan had staid longer.

I'm sorry! I thought I was sending a pm 🙈

I know it was a mistake, but I'm really not sure how you can post on a thread thinking it was a PM and the cutesy "see no evil" monkeys you keep posting are just winding me up more. Anyway, it looks like it's been deleted and I'm sorry for being grumpy and I'm determined to get over it now.

Pleasepudding yes I think through editing they use the first reveal but then edit the way it’s shown. They can use any reaction. So they might use the first reaction from say Amanda, Wilf , Maddy but the lady reaction from say Alex as she realises that Tom is going.

Ahh, ok, so not as manipulative/misleading as I was picturing.

I only use the app so when I went out to Mumsnet.com I wasn't sure what I was doing and ended it up. I never send pms.

I most certainly didn't post a spoiler on purpose.

Why would I?

Also the trailer is running. On BBC1. Anyone can catch it.

Look diss me if you like, but lay off my cutesy monkeys.

Agreed. I don't think bbc trailers or "next on" are spoilers. They are just part of the show to keep us guessing