The Traitors BBC1

[JaneJeffer]

Can't see a thread. What is this shite?

I hope think it was down to who was emotionally resilient enough. I know I certainly couldn't do it.

I'd really hope - certainly I assumed - that this was something they screen for and that people with any history of depression or other mental illness are not put through at all.

Any one of them might get the offer of recruitment.

I'm not sure that you could accurately screen for resilience for this. I love watching it and being an armchair psychologist but I would absolutely hate to be in it, I think it would be claustrophobic and really creepy. Even the fake graves creeped me out. Everything is designed to put the contestants on edge, it's very 'And then there was one...'.

Yeah, they're definitely channeling a bit of Christie! I'm only surprised they haven't got a bowl of personalised minifigures on the breakfast table...

I'd lose my mind if I were on it. The funeral scene with the gold masks was so creepy and as for the graves, that's the point where I'd crack. Huge respect to Rayan. I'd have just turned around and quit the show on the spot. And probably told them how sick it was.

I don't usually watch reality television so maybe I don't have a realistic idea about what's extreme, but that looked fucking horrendous. I also think I might have cracked when Aaron broke down. That can't be right. I think the intensity of the environment might have contributed to Matt breaking down over the revelation about Alex and Tom. He'd only known her about three days!

It's great entertainment but some parts of it do worry me a bit.

I wonder what would happen if, at the round table, two contestants had an equal number of votes. If Amanda had voted for someone else, would both Will and Alyssa have gone?
I work in tv, things will be filmed multiple times and filmed out of sequence. The crew will know what the votes are before they are revealed.
I have to say I am bloody loving the programme. But having to wait until Wednesday for the next episode is too much!

I wonder what would happen if, at the round table, two contestants had an equal number of votes. If Amanda had voted for someone else, would both Will and Alyssa have gone?

That's what makes makes me wonder if it's a set up. I think I need to watch last night's episode again to see what Amanda said to camera.

Interesting ideas about choosing emotionally resilient people to be traitors. Personally, I think I’d find it much much harder being a faithful. They’re the ones on edge because they don’t know what’s happening, the traitors have much more knowledge and control. All this talk of “if I had a shield I could finally have a night’s sleep,” that’s certainly not a traitor worry!

Though I’d have given up the money before getting in one of those damn graves!

I did think Claudia saying if you want to get out of the grave shout 'Haggis' was funny. I think she wanted to say shout 'I'm not a celebrity, but get me out anyway!'.

Claudias interview...

But Wilf made it obvious that he was going to vote for Alyssa at the round table talk before voting commenced. Amanda saw that & went along with him.
If I was Wilf I would want Maddy to be ‘murdered’. By if I was Amanda I would encourage others to vote for Wilf again. I think Amanda had a good chance of winning.

But why did Wilf vote for Alyssa? I must have missed that bit. Definitely need to rewatch it.

Wilf wanted to give the faithfuls a win, and to deflect attention from himself. By offering up Alyssa he achieved that. Mostly. For now.

They were neck and neck on the votes so it was always going to be one of them. It seemed ruthless at the time but the more I think about it, the more I don't think he had much choice. Partly to tip the scales away from him and partly to make it look even less likely to be him...because then he'd have to be not only a traitor, but a traitor who backstabbed another one. And he is both those things, but you can see why people might find it hard to believe.

If he had voted any other way, it would have given Alyssa the edge.

I wouldn't assume we see everything in the order it happened! We know these things are filmed out of sequence. But even then, Alyssa was on a few people's radar already. As a PP said, if he gives a traitor to the Faithfuls, he looks less suspicious.

Some people would rather not know who the traitors are and find out as the Faithful do. I can't decide how I feel about that. We'd be even more at the mercy of the editing...

Sorry I haven't read the full thread but can anyone explain how someone wins? If they keep recruiting new traitors when one is banished then won't there still be 3 traitors left at the end? Is that the idea, and then they split the winnings? Genuinely confused.

God please someone murder maddy i can't listen to her anymore

I'd assume there js a cut off point. So maybe if there is still 3 traitors, they'll get down to a whole group of 6 people, everyone votes, and then whoever is left wins.

Maddy's voice reminds me of Stacey solomon

I had a sudden thought. When they were all talking about themselves at the start, some of them were more focused on how well they can read people, while others were more focused on how well they can deceive people. I suppose the former would be better as Faithfuls and the latter as Traitors.

That could have been a clue to Tom's innocence...he was just obsessed with how well he could read people.

Oh that Claudia interview is really interesting. So nobody was a traitor against their will so either all that wringing of hands and guilt about what they had to do was an act or being a traitor isn't always emotionally what it's cracked up to be.

They were neck and neck on the votes so it was always going to be one of them.

But that's the thing I don't get, how did anyone know that Alyssa and Wilf were neck and neck? I know they all discussed it first but I thought the actual vote was secret and no-one knew how anyone else had voted until they turned their boards over? That's why I'm convinced I've missed something.

Yes ! It took me ages to think who she reminded me of when she said something a certain way

I think Wilf pointed the finger at Alyssa (and went on to vote for her) because some people had already made noise about not trusting her and because he also had people accusing him for being a traitor.
I think he could see during the table discussions that his days were numbered and that he would have the majority of the vote followed closely by Alyssa. By speaking up against her and trying to convince people to vote for her was an act of desperation on his part I would say to save his own skin.
Lucky for him it worked and it potentially cleared his name as surely if he was a traitor he would never vote for one of his own?!

surely if he was a traitor he would never vote for one of his own?!

That's literally the definition of a traitor!

Exactly! Clearly Maddy doesn't entirely believe that. Not sure about any of the others.