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MAFS spoiler thread.

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marmiteadict · 25/09/2022 18:05

As the current thread is restricted only to discussing what is actually happening on the show, I thought I'd set up a spoiler thread where Instagram posts, Daily Mail articles etc are allowed to be discussed.

In no way is this meant to replace the main thread and discussions about the show. Just so that comments that are not allowed are able to be discussed.

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bingotime · 26/09/2022 08:35

George's four heart beats to consider comment was bad enough......

browneyes77 · 26/09/2022 08:47

Doubleraspberry · 26/09/2022 08:11

Sorry, I meant to add, you would think the police would act, but who knows whether the three reports were made to the same force? Or to officers who felt that coercive control was serious. There are very many accounts of women finding domestic abuse minimised by individual police officers, and often cases of domestic abusers and serious sex offenders where multiple accusations of ‘low level’ offending have been made and not acted on before they commit the crime they are eventually convicted of.

I think these 3 women alerted the show they had complained to the police about George, after finding out he was on the show.

Chances are, if he had no criminal proceedings brought against him then during the shows ‘vetting’ process, nothing sinister would’ve come up.

Once the women alerted the show of their complaints to the police, the producers probably thought it was too late to replace him and feigned ignorance. With their excuse being “Well when we checked him out nothing came up, so we’ve done all we can, what you’re saying is just hearsay unless we have factual evidence of this to go on, so not our fault, bla, bla, bla…” 🙄

browneyes77 · 26/09/2022 08:51

bingotime · 26/09/2022 08:35

George's four heart beats to consider comment was bad enough......

Oh god that was cringe 😖

browneyes77 · 26/09/2022 08:52

Prinnny · 26/09/2022 08:33

Ah be so nice to chat about the show without all the ‘rules’, rudeness and crying about spoilers 😂

I read that Whit and Matt spend the night together, hope there’s a bit more substance to it than tiny tears in the hot tub!

Thank you for having my back on the other thread by the way 😊💐

BertaHoon · 26/09/2022 08:58

I'll be v disappointed in the production team if George's gaslighting is not addressed this week, it is so uncomfortable to watch. Not a fan of April but you can see she's already losing it trying to please him.

I can see the Whitney and Matt thing happening. They had quite a deep and meaningful chat at the first dinner party and seemed to click. Odd couple!

dillite · 26/09/2022 09:12

BertaHoon · 26/09/2022 08:58

I'll be v disappointed in the production team if George's gaslighting is not addressed this week, it is so uncomfortable to watch. Not a fan of April but you can see she's already losing it trying to please him.

I can see the Whitney and Matt thing happening. They had quite a deep and meaningful chat at the first dinner party and seemed to click. Odd couple!

I don't think that Whitney and Matt are an off couple at all. He clearly wants a tiny, quite submissive partner. Whereas she is after someone massive, who stomps and shouts and is "real".

Midlifemusings · 26/09/2022 09:55

It seems like no one is happy with their edit this season. Pretty much all the IG posts are complaining about the unfair edit or talking about others (their friends) being unfairly edited. The reunion will be interesting to see what they have to say after it all! Although I am sure they edit the reunion too to only show us what they want us to see.

Once I realized how storylined, produced, and edited reality tv is...I take everything I see with a heavy grain of salt. People do say and do the things shown but you see only a few minutes of each person out of weeks of filming. They choose which few minutes to show to create the narrative and story they want. I know Gemma and others also are complaining that they used things out of order or put sentences from different conversations together in voiceovers to create a different conversation from what actually happened. This happens on lots of reality tv shows.

I like who I like or don't like and the dynamics are fun to watch but everyone really is just a pawn of the producers and editors who are focused on what drama, conflicts, and story edits will get viewers to keep tuning in.

Midlifemusings · 26/09/2022 10:05

Preview is out for tonight.

Yelling and drama - Gemma (at Matt) and Thomas (across the table) - like groundhog day.

Cute clips of Jenna and Zoe, Chanita and Jordan, George and April, and Thomas and Adrian.

Sophie and Johnathan not seeing eye to eye

Bananarama21 · 26/09/2022 10:15

I'm not remotely surprised about George the fact he wanted for disclosure on April previous relationship was very chilling to Mr and not remotely normal behaviour. It's nothing to do with him. I think alot of the contestants are wannabes who want their 15 minutes of fame and pretend to hook up, I don't believe the narrative from Whitney and matt is genuine but rather hyped up to sell a story. Whitney has never been committed to the series or duka and I questioned her motives for doing the show. Gemma can accuse poor editing but that stuff came our of her mouth and she was very needy and creepy in her deamour. If a man had done that he would be kicked off the show.

RGinaPhalange · 26/09/2022 10:29

i don’t get why everyone was so precious about spoilers for a trashy tv program. I mean it’s just a bit of fun 😂I am 100% invested in all the relationships and drama but why would someone get upset about it.

loving the new thread!!!

browneyes77 · 26/09/2022 11:01

RGinaPhalange · 26/09/2022 10:29

i don’t get why everyone was so precious about spoilers for a trashy tv program. I mean it’s just a bit of fun 😂I am 100% invested in all the relationships and drama but why would someone get upset about it.

loving the new thread!!!

Some people get so precious about it don’t they? 😂

Like if someone spoils the ending of a film, book or drama series where they’re literally exposing the plot then fair enough. That would nark me too.

But a Reality tv series doesn’t really have a plot or a storyline. Hence why it’s called ‘reality tv’ - things happen as they happen. Speculation and rumours are just that, until the show actually broadcasts them as ‘confirmed happenings’.

I found it particularly ironic that someone who spoke about Aprils previous tv appearances prior to the show, wasn’t shouted down, but you speaking about George’s previous experiences prior to the show, was somehow a spoiler? Like what were you ‘spoiling’ exactly? 🙄😂

marmiteadict · 26/09/2022 11:02

Someone on another forum worked for police checks and say that MAFS would only be able to do a basic criminal check on contestants.

There would have to be a solid reason for an enhanced criminal check such as working with vulnerable adults or children.

A basic criminal check would not show spent convictions (over 7 years ago) cautions, reprimands or allegations.

Her best guess that in the circumstances (if this actually happened of course) George would have likely be given a warning which would not appear on a basic criminal check.

Whether or not MAFS production needs to spend more time and attention on contestants during the screening of contestants is a whole different matter.

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PollyDarton1 · 26/09/2022 11:11

Speaking as someone who has not specifically reported my ex to the police for abuse, but who was abusive and the police are aware, I suppose it's possible that these women may have contacted their local forces and "spoken" to them about George but no further action was taken.

I know if my ex was to be vetted by something similar to MAFS he would come back with "clean" (he worked for a school, ffs) but only because his behaviour never met the threshold for charging - it did however meet threshold for DASH assessment/medium risk by the police so...! It's also possible these women spoke to the police about George's behaviour and if there wasn't enough evidence (emotional abuse is incredibly hard to "prove" or charge with) it would have just been more or less a conversation along the lines of "if it gets worse, then come back to us" - aka, there is every chance these women are telling the truth but due to the incredibly high threshold of providing EA it didn't go further, therefore George would have no record to speak of.

The article doesn't surprise me. I said from the moment George flounced off when April asked for space that his way of handling rejection/perceived issues is toxic as fuck and it's been a repeated pattern. I recognise a lot of my ex in George.

browneyes77 · 26/09/2022 11:18

Gemma can accuse poor editing but that stuff came our of her mouth

Yeah, I agree with that. The order in which she said it doesn’t really matter, she still said it.

Although has she responded to things he’s said that have been edited out? I read in an article that she said some of the things he said were far worse, but that maybe they’d been edited out because they were worse?

I recall he did make a sexual comment to her when they were having that picnic and I was like “🤨er hold on? You just made a sexual comment to her but if she does it, you kick off?”

Gemma’s vulgarity is cringe and would definitely put me off if a man said that to me.

But I’m not convinced Matt is as innocent on the sexual talk stuff as he’s making out?

browneyes77 · 26/09/2022 11:31

if there wasn't enough evidence (emotional abuse is incredibly hard to "prove" or charge with) it would have just been more or less a conversation along the lines of "if it gets worse, then come back to us" - aka, there is every chance these women are telling the truth but due to the incredibly high threshold of providing EA it didn't go further, therefore George would have no record to speak of.

Yes that was my thoughts.

The show would effectively need evidence of his behaviour which they likely wouldn’t have, regardless of any checks they do.

And if he was already cast and on the show when these women contacted the show to tell them about him, they probably thought it was too late at that point to pull him out without sufficient ‘evidence’.

However, the experts have seen his behaviour. And if they have any awareness of these women’s reports, now would be the time to at least show they are addressing it, by challenging him on his behaviour towards April.

Any decent therapist would be telling George that it’s not up to April to placate his insecurities. That it’s not her job to fix his trust issues. But instead they’re saying crap like “did you hear that George? April said she’s not going anywhere. Does that help you feel better?”. It’s just constantly putting the burden of reassurance onto April, instead of addressing HIS issues and how HE’S going to fix them.

UpendedPineapple · 26/09/2022 11:49

George on the face of it should be an absolute catch. The fact he's been thrown back into the dating pool so many times is a big red flag 🚩 before we get to his possessive over reactions.

mrstea301 · 26/09/2022 11:50

marmiteadict · 25/09/2022 18:10

Does anyone else suspect the whole Whitney/Matt affair may have been over hyped? Will it just be a case of them saying they would fancy in each other in real life and that's where it ends.

This group are such a load of drama llamas that they could blow anything out of proportion.

Surely April admitting she finds anyone else remotely attractive will send George spiralling.

I was wondering about this, but I listened to the interview with PCB on MAFS Hysteria podcast and he alluded to it, saying that the way the situation played out, he very nearly walked off of the show for good, so I'm intrigued to see what actually goes down. I wonder if they ask to actually swap partners?

PollyDarton1 · 26/09/2022 12:01

browneyes77 · 26/09/2022 11:31

if there wasn't enough evidence (emotional abuse is incredibly hard to "prove" or charge with) it would have just been more or less a conversation along the lines of "if it gets worse, then come back to us" - aka, there is every chance these women are telling the truth but due to the incredibly high threshold of providing EA it didn't go further, therefore George would have no record to speak of.

Yes that was my thoughts.

The show would effectively need evidence of his behaviour which they likely wouldn’t have, regardless of any checks they do.

And if he was already cast and on the show when these women contacted the show to tell them about him, they probably thought it was too late at that point to pull him out without sufficient ‘evidence’.

However, the experts have seen his behaviour. And if they have any awareness of these women’s reports, now would be the time to at least show they are addressing it, by challenging him on his behaviour towards April.

Any decent therapist would be telling George that it’s not up to April to placate his insecurities. That it’s not her job to fix his trust issues. But instead they’re saying crap like “did you hear that George? April said she’s not going anywhere. Does that help you feel better?”. It’s just constantly putting the burden of reassurance onto April, instead of addressing HIS issues and how HE’S going to fix them.

Yeah, exactly.

I guess it's highly likely these women only knew about George's participation once he was already cast and the filming had been done. It's also possible (and very common) that George could have kept some of his behaviour toned down enough for it to not be interpreted as anything other than over zealousness or insecurity which was given more weight to following April's hot tub kiss and his general back history of being cheated on.

If George is EA - these people have a very, very uncanny ability to twist things to suit their narrative and April can come across as evasive (or a liar, as she's been portrayed in the edit) so whilst I'm not saying the experts are good at their job (I think they're shit, tbh) I also know emotionally abusive people are very adept at making everything about them and blaming the other person on their actions.

I was really hoping that the experts would at least grill George about the bloody Google of the birthdate (April has been on IG over the weekend calling it out) because it's frankly a bit batshit (George said he needed to do something with a prescription, which I think is bullshit) and his necessity to know everything about April's past but I think this series has already shown they give little weight to much of the commitment ceremonies.

RGinaPhalange · 26/09/2022 12:10

I know!! And in the very first thread someone revealed Duka had been a stripper and posted links to his stripper bio but that was fine.

I suspect the thread has been hijacked by some MAFS spoiler terrorists 😂 and most people don’t really care.

I got accused of my daily aim being to spoil the thread for people 😂 oh and being a idiotic troll.

I feel like the poster was maybe being a little dramatic…………..Maybe it was Thomas 😂

beneathhereyes · 26/09/2022 12:22

I'm surprised George has so much time for women, what about his 4 heartbeats?

browneyes77 · 26/09/2022 13:10

RGinaPhalange · 26/09/2022 12:10

I know!! And in the very first thread someone revealed Duka had been a stripper and posted links to his stripper bio but that was fine.

I suspect the thread has been hijacked by some MAFS spoiler terrorists 😂 and most people don’t really care.

I got accused of my daily aim being to spoil the thread for people 😂 oh and being a idiotic troll.

I feel like the poster was maybe being a little dramatic…………..Maybe it was Thomas 😂

In the other thread, someone actually posted this and nobody batted en eyelid:-

“Apparently George found his wife in (his) bed with a dad from their kids school. That's quite a betrayal”

But apparently you saying other stuff about George’s past is a ‘spoiler’ 🙄😂

browneyes77 · 26/09/2022 13:15

I was really hoping that the experts would at least grill George about the bloody Google of the birthdate (April has been on IG over the weekend calling it out) because it's frankly a bit batshit (George said he needed to do something with a prescription, which I think is bullshit) and his necessity to know everything about April's past but I think this series has already shown they give little weight to much of the commitment ceremonies.

They don’t really grill or challenge them on any of the key areas we’re all at home waiting for them to be challenged on do they?

They seem to gloss over most of it and then go “right let’s go to the decisions!”.

Er no, let’s not. Let’s see what Twat No.1 has to say for themselves instead shall we? Because that’s what we all wanna see. The ones behaving like knobheads, being grilled about behaving like a knobhead 😂

browneyes77 · 26/09/2022 13:16

beneathhereyes · 26/09/2022 12:22

I'm surprised George has so much time for women, what about his 4 heartbeats?

🤣🤣🤣

robertpaulson · 26/09/2022 13:17

RGinaPhalange · 26/09/2022 12:10

I know!! And in the very first thread someone revealed Duka had been a stripper and posted links to his stripper bio but that was fine.

I suspect the thread has been hijacked by some MAFS spoiler terrorists 😂 and most people don’t really care.

I got accused of my daily aim being to spoil the thread for people 😂 oh and being a idiotic troll.

I feel like the poster was maybe being a little dramatic…………..Maybe it was Thomas 😂

You can get over it now! I'm so bored with all the spoiler chat, here and there

Midlifemusings · 26/09/2022 13:19

The 'experts' also put Thomas's insecurities on Adrian, and Gemma's on Matt, and Kasia's on Kwame. There are a lot of insecurities on this show and the experts seem keen to have other people be responsible for them. It isn't just the experts though, I have seen lots of comments on forums about mostly men needing to cater to and protect and accept women's insecurities.

I don't think April is trustworthy at all and that is driving George crazy and bringing out the worst - again though - they want this for drama.

These experts are hired to pretty much fuel the drama. Their goal isn't healthy functional couples, it is TV ratings so they keep their own paychecks.

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