MAFSAUS9 - the Zippit thread with no spoilers, no teasers and no budgie smugglers. There may be a cockinteal… E4UK PACE

[SheldonesqueTheBstard]

I’ve saged.

He wants to take a few days off from the relationship because she's vulnerable. What a wanker

Absolutely. He’s going to punish her because he thinks she made him look like the bad guy on TV.

Arse.

I can't understand why the experts were so harsh to Selina this evening.
Make a line in the sand? Piss off.

I don’t know, Selina has done nothing wrong as far as I can see. I thought that ixpert was bullying her.

They did that with Heidi last year .

@Roundlampshade

They did that with Heidi last year .

Yes, they were awful to Heidi, whilst letting Mike get away with being an absolute arse.

@SinisterBumFacedCat

I don’t know, Selina has done nothing wrong as far as I can see. I thought that ixpert was bullying her.

Absolutely, me too. It was horrible to watch.

Watching on catch up - poor Selina.

So domestic abuse is a two way thing? Wow!

Thank fuck she said leave.

Cody is being deliberately cruel. You can see him laughing when he says he doesn’t know how to give a hug. To him, his lack of empathy is a badge of honour. Nasty, nasty, nasty.

I don't even know why Mitch is there tbh if he's so cynical about the whole thing and wouldn't even consider compromising on location to be with someone. I found him really chilling at the end. Plus Cody should have just let Selina go, this is clearly destroying her confidence and she seems a sweetheart. Yes to PP saying it was a bit like Mike and Heidi, trying to blame a nice person for being matched with someone not even arsed about being in a relationship. I just wish they wouldn't waste 30-something women's time like this with such thoughtless matches. It's not even good TV. Similar-ish to Amy and Josh on MAFSUK- he was much nicer, not s bad guy at all, but not ready for what she wanted from life.

I can’t stand Cody. I find him repulsive. So he knows he has no empathy and is cold, it’ll never work. Let the poor woman leave. I think he feigned interest after the race issue, because that could really blow up in his face.

Thinking about the race issue - I wonder if they are belittling Selina to try to discredit the fact she brought up race. The programme can't really afford to have race issues discussed, because if you scratch the surface there is clearly a problem with racial representation. The contestants are almost all white - and when they have been from Asian backgrounds they have been distinctly white-passing or light-skinned. There haven't been any black participants or native Australians, which is quite telling.
I think Selina is being punished for daring to bring up race.

I hadn’t considered that. Poor Selina, fucked from every angle. She is really pretty, he’s punching and instead of thanking his lucky stars, he’s a twat. Be more Al.

@VivienneDelacroix Surely the race of the participants selected is only telling if we also know the race of all the applicants? They can't include black or native Australian participants if none apply?

Cody gives me the creeps and I didn’t like the way Selina was bullied by the experts. Mitch has gone right down in my estimations - shallow and full of himself. I do like Dom and Jack.

You are clearly far less cynical than I am, @IminStealthMode
We know that the show actively recruits participants - I'm sure they could do lots to improve representation.

@Roundlampshade

Cody is being deliberately cruel. You can see him laughing when he says he doesn’t know how to give a hug. To him, his lack of empathy is a badge of honour. Nasty, nasty, nasty.

I don't think Cody is nasty in the way I feel Andrew and Mitch are nasty. I think he's inadequate emotionally. I want to scream at him when he smiles but I think that's awkwardness. He's totally responsible for it but I don't feel he is enjoying her distress. He needs to start thinking about his actions from a perspective other than his own. He's just not willing to accept its something he could work on and change. That's incredibly immature. Even Al has taken on board guidance and advice but Cody seems happy to remain 'cold' and unemotional.

It's such a shame Selina was paired with him. She is so insecure and has so much riding on this. I think she came into the experiment needing a higher than average level of reassurance and with a more emotionally mature partner could have learned to appreciate her own worth (be less 'needy' if you like).
Being with Cody has just sent her self esteem plummeting and her needs increased. I really feel for her and was baffled the aggressive attitude of the blonde ixpert. It made me feel very uncomfortable. The idea that there's always 'fault' on both sides of a relationship break down is a dangerous attitude. Like othhave said it reminded me of their attitude to Heidi

Perhaps @VivienneDelacroix. I base my experience on managing a team made up entirely of 30-something white European Women. I'd love to see more diversity in my workplace because different backgrounds and experiences bring so much to a team, but unfortunately given the location / industry / nature of the job, the last 3 times we've recruited the applicants have been overwhelmingly white European Women in their 30s. I can't pull a diverse team out of thin air.

(Also, I didn't know they actively recruited, so Thanks for that info).

I'm glad I'm not the only one thinking Selina hasn't done anything wrong. I think some if the pairings are about making good TV but Selina is so hopeful and vulnerable it feels cruel that they put her with someone who doesn't even seem to want to be in a relationship - I honestly don't even think he's into women. Selina was getting on really well with Dion at the dinner party.

I was really put off Liv from the other night. I don't know if the experts/ producers picked her for the one to get a happy ever after but I wish they'd picked Selina for that instead. There are lots of guys in the show who are really open to love, but Cody doesn't seem in the least but interested or caring, despite what he says.

They treated Selina cruelly. 'Wrong answer, think again'. Talk about gaslighting. Good on her for not changing her answer. Wonder if the ixpert realised how bad that made her look. I haven't seen Selina do anything wrong. She's not even clingy, just wanted a simple bloody cuddle a day after shagging. She's probably feeling like a fool and knows she'll be judged for having sex. Poor thing. She just wanted to show her parents and it's backfired on her. They've all done her wrong. She seems a beautiful person inside and out to me.

Kate is so like a young Gillian McKeith. She’ll be getting him to shit in a Tupperware box and/or pretend to faint to get out of a task soon.

And shame on the ixperts for not pulling up Cody for what he said at the dinner party. IIRC when Selina cried he turned to the group and said 'see what I mean, it does my head in' or words to that effect. He doesn't give a shit about anything but not looking like a racist. He said those words. Nobody made him say it! He's only got himself to blame.

@icelollycraving that's it! I was trying to think who she reminds me of. I've got a good recipe of hers I've used for years for veg stew. Except I've swapped the kale for dumplings. Still healthy, right?