This is Going to Hurt - starts 8th Feb

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I loved the book of this by Adam Kay. I know others weren't so keen.
BBC has dramatised this and starts in early Feb. Just a heads up for others who liked the book.

I wonder if they’ll tone down the constant outright misogyny he displayed in his book considering the outrage he caused. Nasty bastard, it’s men like him that make women distrustful of male doctors.

I loved the audio book so much. I have to say any nastiness or misogyny went completely over my head, I just found it extremely funny, entertaining and interesting.

I never found Kay was disrespectful towards anyone except the openly racist patients -- he struggled a lot with them.

... but not sure how his book will translate into film. May not work at all.

Interview about him leaving the job

He got lucky having Ben portray him. I would have cast Daniel Mays. Anyway, Adam on adaptation www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2021/dec/29/life-story-tv-adam-kay-dolly-alderton-this-is-going-to-hurt-everything-i-know-about-love Ben in interview www.theguardian.com/culture/2022/jan/29/ben-whishaw-straight-actors-gay-parts-this-is-going-to-hurt

For the longest time I though Daniel Mays was Adam Kay… I like the book and I usually am very sensitive to misogyny, not I might like the show.

I like medical dramas, loved Bodies and Cardiac Arrest, so I shall be watching, if I can stop picturing Paddington Bear.
I enjoyed the book but could see why many were dismayed, especially with subsequent revelations of lyrics used in comedy songs he used to perform for med students. I put some of it down to dark gallows humour and rest to me not being the audience demographic - whereas some found it offensive, immature insensitivity.

I won't be watching - I read the book - "another day, another vaginal bleeding case - same ol' same ol' " - so disrespectful. Brats and twats - charming.

Hmmm I probably won’t watch.

I have enjoyed many many evenings watching Adam Kay & Suman Biswas perform as Amateur Transplants. They were excellent & very much of the time.

After they split as a group, I saw Adam live as a one man act. He came on stage, drank almost a bottle of red wine in one go, and then did his show. Something was off, he was many as funny as usuall. He was mean, not sure mean but cruel - there was no humour in it. The audience was mainly medics & HCP & I know myself & DH we’re not the only people that left thinking Adam was in the grips of an addiction or a complete breakdown.

FF a few years & TIGTH was released. I really disliked his book. The absolute scorn he showed for labouring women appalled me. I was sad as it was that low level misogyny I’ve come to expect from so many gay men.

I’ve answered my own musings. I won’t be watching.

The content of the book didn't offend me at all, think it's probably par for the course for a medic

What irritated me - and meant I couldn't finish the book - was how he tried to shoehorn in a gag every few sentences. It was just really really tiresome after a while

I mostly enjoyed the book, although found his assertion/ belief that giving birth is inherently dangerous as unhelpful. But put that down to him only seeing women experiencing difficult births not the ones (like me) who had a natural intervention-free one.

Weirdly, I only listened to it as Audible suggested it as my next read after Becoming by Michelle Obama.

I hadn't picked up on his partner being male. I don't really care either way.

His partner in the book was very clearly made out to be a woman. As a woman who was treated appallingly in labour, complained to PALS and informed it was an absolute one off and lessons had been learned, reading AK’s book a few years later just impressed upon me how common it is for male doctors to think of women as being absolutely disgusting. It brought back so many bad memories and I’m agog that women who have gone through labour can read it and see no issue with his attitude.

I’ll be giving it a miss.

I don’t have high hopes at how the female patients vs the heroic striving male doctor will be portrayed.

Reading his book and the attitudes displayed towards women and birth it really isn’t surprising at how high the rates of birth trauma are.

Really disliked the book, he was horribly condescending and not the least bit funny.

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Hmmm I probably won’t watch.

I have enjoyed many many evenings watching Adam Kay & Suman Biswas perform as Amateur Transplants. They were excellent & very much of the time.

After they split as a group, I saw Adam live as a one man act. He came on stage, drank almost a bottle of red wine in one go, and then did his show. Something was off, he was many as funny as usuall. He was mean, not sure mean but cruel - there was no humour in it. The audience was mainly medics & HCP & I know myself & DH we’re not the only people that left thinking Adam was in the grips of an addiction or a complete breakdown.

FF a few years & TIGTH was released. I really disliked his book. The absolute scorn he showed for labouring women appalled me. I was sad as it was that low level misogyny I’ve come to expect from so many gay men.

I’ve answered my own musings. I won’t be watching.

I totally agree with this. We saw him as a solo act and the contempt he displayed for his audience was horrendous. He clearly looked down on everyone who had paid good money to see him and wasn’t bothered about showing it. You’re right in saying he was cruel too. Sneering and cruel.

I was given the book but haven’t read it. I was so turned off by his behaviour on stage that I didn’t think I could stomach his writing - and had seen the casual misogyny in his articles. So I’ll be giving it a swerve too.

I challenge anyone to quote any part of the book where AK gave pronoun to his partner.

Claiming he pretended the partner in the book was female sounds like a weak attempt to slur AK.

AK never once gave a pronoun to his partner in the book -- he even mentions how careful he was not to do that in other interviews. It wasn't important or anyone's business, anyway, just as he never spelled out partner's full name or explained their occupation or background.

From what I remember of the book no pronoun was given for his partner at any book, was left ambiguous and only used an initial H.

Not that it matters, still a horribly misogynistic book that will age terribly.

Funny how offended some are by Twat given how freely MNers spout Cunt.

If you think he was a woman hating twat in TIGTH, give the Nightshift Before Christmas a swerve.
He finds elderly vulnerable women even more disgusting than he finds ones in labour.
Vile vile man.

Depends on context though, not opposed to the word twat but there’s something a bit gross about male doctors and students referring to working with women at their most vulnerable as ‘brats and twats’

Well, quite - albeit could be worse, am sure runts and cunts has been used by others.
As for slurring someone I do not know, I wholeheartedly apologise if Adam used gender neutral language throughout deliberately and I did not notice. I do remember H being used and assumed he was protecting an ex's privacy. According to the Guardian, the adapted version of Adam Kay has his experience of coming out to others as a ''protracted thing that creates continuing ripple effects through his adult life.'' This is the fictionalised version of course.
If I wanted to criticise AK, it would be for his past depiction in song of 'Northern birds' as ''lazy, ugly and smelling of burgers'' and not for how much he chooses to reveal about himself.