This is Going to Hurt - starts 8th Feb

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I loved the book of this by Adam Kay. I know others weren't so keen.
BBC has dramatised this and starts in early Feb. Just a heads up for others who liked the book.

I thought she'd failed her exams because when her parents asked her if she'd got her results she said they hadn't arrived yet, but we could see an official looking letter. I thought she couldn't lie to her parents but could do so to Adam.

The difference between private and NHS was shocking. I have read that private is fine as long as there are no complications but for eg plastic surgery and weight loss surgery the standard of after care is much worse in the private sector. The NHS will not perform weight loss surgery if your chances of success aren't good, but the private sector doesn't care. I wonder if it's the same for infertility treatment? I thought Shruti handler the IVF couple really well.

@Taswama I thought that about the exams

@Taswama

I thought she'd failed her exams because when her parents asked her if she'd got her results she said they hadn't arrived yet, but we could see an official looking letter. I thought she couldn't lie to her parents but could do so to Adam.

The difference between private and NHS was shocking. I have read that private is fine as long as there are no complications but for eg plastic surgery and weight loss surgery the standard of after care is much worse in the private sector. The NHS will not perform weight loss surgery if your chances of success aren't good, but the private sector doesn't care. I wonder if it's the same for infertility treatment? I thought Shruti handler the IVF couple really well.

I did wonder about that as well

So assumed she had failed

And that’s why killed herself :(

@Blondeshavemorefun

Oh. Just seen 6

Didn’t expect that 😢😱

I thought it would be patients or babies dying

Not Shrutis

And she passed ?

Then why. Pressure

She was good 😢

And scary seeing the divide between private and nhs

I assumed that private would have surplus staff blood etc

So private is good if nothing goes wrong but if it does then turn around to nhs

I have many clients who go to Portland or other private hoops to give birth

Is it really like that

How can they not have blood or other surgeons 😢

Private has always been like that - there for the routine but as soon as it goes wrong, they rely on the NHS. People seem to think there's some magical vat of amazing staff and resource just because they've paid for it but you can see where all the money goes - on fancy stuff not medicine!

Seems so @yellowbridgebang

As I said lots of my clients choose private to give birth

But guess they’ve never thought what if something goes wrong …. And need to be rushed

I had assumed, obv wrongly, that they would have doctors and blood

Know this is set years ago but are things diff now

I think getting her results after the hellish day just made her think this is my life forever and just couldn't cope with it. I think it would have almost been better if she did fail, then she could have gone onto something different.

I think she could have been kinder in her delivery to the ivf couple, but she was honest and no one else was.

Years ago I went to a cardiac arrest on a private ward in an NHS hospital.

They hadn't even been checking the crash trolley was stocked properly. None of the staff knew what they were doing. It was awful.

Room looked nice though, and yes they did serve meals under cloches.

Totally true that it's great for routine stuff and crap in an emergency. It's also stunning to see how it rips off patients and insurers.

DH is self-funding private eye care after the NHS left him to go blind. We were once sitting in a waiting room and heard another patient saying 'my surgeon is so caring, he insists on seeing me every 6 months after my hip replacement years ago to check I am OK'. Both of us had to suppress a laugh, caring my arse, it was a nice fee for doing a pointless consultation. There are loads of ways to rip off rich patients and insurers if you know how - one of my consultants once gave me a run down on how to do it!

I knew someone who worked in a private hospital, running blood tests etc, and he said, having worked in both, he would always feel safer in a NHS hospital as they were better prepared for emergencies.

I’ve just watched finished the series. Pretty good on the whole. Staff shortages and under funding is obviously nothing new- this was set in 2006 wasn’t it?

The NHS faces lots of criticism like staff shortages and under funding. Well the problem is , how do you solve these problems? You can’t make people become doctors and nurses and most people wouldn’t be happy about paying more income tax. So how do we fund it better?

The NHS sadly relies on the goodwill of staff. Even when at breaking point, they still manage to fight through.

At 2 am on a bank holiday, if a registrar or consultant is needed in a NHS hospital, it happens.
In the private sector, it probably won’t.

We need a government that’s prepared to make changes and make the NHS better for everyone, staff and patients alike.Not about meeting targets , box ticking, diversity courses etc etc.

I wasn't expecting that in Episode 6 Poor Shruti.
She had failed her exams but both Adam and the female consultant had given her such high praise for saving that mother.
Heartbreaking.

@LadyEloise1 , what makes you think she has failed her exams?

Probably the same reasons I did.

I'm so glad episode 6 has been on now and we can discuss. I watched it weeks ago and it has really stayed with me. I actually can't remember a programme that has touched me so profoundly and i keep pondering over Shruti and her spiral downwards. It was so clear what was happening and yet it was still a shock. Just like in real life, it is so easy to miss the signs of mental health problems.

One of the most satisfying dramas I've seen in a long time. Sad that it was railed against so hard in the beginning when it has an excellent cast of female characters and raises important (and feminist) points throughout. It was pushed too hard as a quirky medical comedy instead of a harrowing drama with the occasional funny interlude.

I think a PP said it was Shruti's story, not Adam's, and I completely agree with that.

And Harry's still lovely 🥰

From digital spy:

"In episode six, viewers will be suitably devastated when, after dealing with a shift from hell on her own, doctor Shruti Acharya took her own life.

Shruti's stress with her neverending ward shifts and the mounting pressure of her studies had been building for months, and on the day she passed her exams, it ultimately became too much for her."

I liked this series so far (despite not being overly keen on Adam) but I was really upset by Shruti sadly taking her own life.

I suppose it's just real life but the amount of pressure doctors and especially junior doctors are under is immense.

It's interesting that Shruti's character isn't real.

I recall years ago I started at an architects and they have 7 years of study and doctors between 4-7 years plus more. Someone told me rates of suicide were highest in both professions.

@hockeygrass
I think failing them and pretending to have passed pushed her over the edge.

It's essential to the plot that she has passed her exams.

She has the most successful day of her career, deals with multiple emergencies, actually surpasses Adam in her managment at one point and has passed the exams that are going to send her on her way to being a consultant.

Except, it's not enough - there is still no support, she was still left nearly having to do an operation she had never seen, she still felt like she was drowning.

Watched the last episode yesterday.

Poor Shruti. My bloody friend told me it was going to happen so it wasn’t a massive shock to me.
She would’ve made an amazing doctor, we need more Shrutis in the nhs.
Re private hospitals, that was a whole other level of luxury. I’ve had a couple of minor ops privately and it’s nothing like what they showed! You get a small en suite room and can order your post-op meal/snack (this was a day op) and have your TV etc.
I felt the prog showed the extremes, but that’s tv for you!

There are private hospitals and private hospitals I think. DH has been treated on the private wing of Moorfields and basically you got a single room, Occitane toiletries, a bottle of water and a bag. The heating still didn't work though, it was freezing! Plus once he needed emergency surgery, they didn't have a room for him and he was admitted into an emergency theatre. Not glam at all.

I've self-funded some outpatient appointments in Harley Street and they definitely try to appeal to a market.

The cardiology clinic was like a gentleman's club, complete with leather armchairs and stuffed animals. Market appeared to be men from the city, oh and me in my jeans and hoodie. They also had the world's fanciest ECG machine where every trace showed on a different screen - whether this is clinically helpful I have no idea but it looked dramatic.

Neurology was in a big clinic, everything was v swish, white and immaculate. What was most obvious was that all the directions, magazines etc were both in English and Arabic. Again, they knew who they were appealing to.

Just seen e7

Breaking public bond to get bsby out

As @AnnaMagnani said padding was crucial. She had the best day ever but it wasn’t enough

Glad they got back together

Puzzled tho as thought adam gave up bring a doctor .

This was a good series

Shocking snd awful that it’s based on real life people and situations

Every 3w a doctor takes their own life

In the original book he does give up after a traumatic event (not Shruti's death) so I was a bit confused by the ending. Were they leaving it open for a second series perhaps?

Just caught up with episode 6. It’s very close to home, having known a couple of colleagues who have taken their own life.

DH did a stint in a private hospital, was very much like that. Women got sent to the local NHS hospital in an emergency.