KATIE PRICE MUCKY MANSION WED 9pm ch4

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Anyone see last night

Katie transforms her uninhabitable 19 room mansion into a forever family home

On for 3 episodes

Also repeated tonight at 11.05pn

I haven’t seen yet as clashed with bay and bull so will record tonight

@Cherrypie32

This entirely. On leaving the Priory, which was a pay off for a prison sentence, she claimed she was going to have a drama free 2022. Since then she’s publicly abused her children’s fathers and partners (who these children live with full time) to garner publicity, she’s been re arrested, her partner is the subject of an ongoing enquiry into abuse and robbery and joined Only Fans in a blaze of publicity to pay off the thousands she still owes her creditors. None of this is speculation, it’s fact. She’s had help, she’s had excuses but she doesn’t change.

Unfortunately I think it's got into a viscous circle where she needs the press, she relies on them and the photoshoots for the money. She feeds on the controversy that pays. But in doing that it seems to attract the wrong people who use her because of it. She can't get out of the cycle as she relies on it for her living. She would be better off using her money to set up a valuable business and stepping away from the limelight. She seems obsessed with being famous and has always got that through revealing her whole life in the media.

I do feel sorry for how many people she has been betrayed by. Her best friends sleeping with her husband. I am not surprised she doesn't know who to trust and is extremely insecure.

I've been to The Priory and every single person there for either MH or addiction problems had made awful decisions like that. There are levels, yes plenty of people have poor MH and don't do dangerous things but for many more severe conditions it's one of the features of the illness.

I'm not saying it's right - of course it isn't - but you can't say that just because you, or people you know, haven't done it, that means it's a conscious choice for everyone. Addiction certainly is not a choice. Nobody knows the extent of someone's MH problems but them and their care providers. It must be pretty hard to get well and make good decisions when you're villified for everything anyway.

Also hard for social services etc to make unbiased judgements on her ability to parent.

When you've been objectified and judged for being objectified your whole life, it's going to be very difficult to value yourself enough to get well - it's not setting you can so for your children or anyone else when it's so severe.

I've experienced being dragged in the press and having social services involvement due to my MH and I've made some horrible decisions, looked for love in all the wrong places and said things I shouldn't have when I wasn't in my right mind (I'm bipolar and have PTSD), and there is virtually no support if you don't have unlimited cash.i was in the priory for 3 months and I'm still not 'fixed'. Thank god that never made it into the press.

@TheVolturi

Some comments on this thread are a bit nasty really, unless you KNOW the actual ins and outs (not the stuff that we see in the media) then you have no place to judge. Katie Price has had an unusual life, she was on page 3 as a 17 year old so before she was actually an adult, and repeatedly exploited and used by men and the media since. She has obviously got issues which is expected due the the crazy life she's had. She doesn't seem to be a nasty or evil person, she comes across to me that she just wants to be loved? Not denying that some stuff I've read about her is 🙄 but is it all true? And why is no one helping her? I've read that she's trying to or may actually be pregnant, it makes me sad that she's evidently set for more drama and heartbreak if this is true.

Agree with all of this. Being exploited when you're underage brings lasting damage and stunts emotional development, making you more vulnerable to abuse and the cycle continues.

It's not a choice made in a void though, or with the right mental and emotional tools to do so. It's not that simple. If she had a brain injury people wouldn't be saying this, because it's obvious they're operating with reduced capacity but MH conditions also affect the make up of the brain. People always expect mentally ill people not to behave like mentally ill people.

Agree with all of this. Being exploited when you're underage brings lasting damage and stunts emotional development, making you more vulnerable to abuse and the cycle continues.

Agreed but don't you think she has also exploited the media and used it to her advantage to get where she is today? She wanted this career. It's a double edged sword.

According to Katie, she is not an addict.

"When you've been objectified and judged for being objectified your whole life, it's going to be very difficult to value yourself enough to get well"
This is probably true, but it is very important therefore, that she does not go down the road of allowing her daughters to follow that same path. I don't think featuring them at a young age caked in makeup and pouting at her camera is a wise choice and it is good that both girls have fathers who are seemingly trying to lead them in a different direction. Who knows if this was part of the decision-making process by SS when deciding where all the children would live full-time.
Hard to know for sure but I think it's also possible that her (alleged?) drug-taking was also a factor, as was her choice of boyfriend.

@sparkycats

Agree with all of this. Being exploited when you're underage brings lasting damage and stunts emotional development, making you more vulnerable to abuse and the cycle continues.

Agreed but don't you think she has also exploited the media and used it to her advantage to get where she is today? She wanted this career. It's a double edged sword.

She was far too young to know what she wanted. How many of us would feel good about living by choices we made as teenagers?

She was set up for a lifetime of damage by adults who exploited her when she was a child.

@DonnieDark

It's not a choice made in a void though, or with the right mental and emotional tools to do so. It's not that simple. If she had a brain injury people wouldn't be saying this, because it's obvious they're operating with reduced capacity but MH conditions also affect the make up of the brain. People always expect mentally ill people not to behave like mentally ill people.

Are you these Mh issues more recent, over the last few years? What about all the bad decisions before that? Her life has spiralled down over a long period of time. She was making bad decisions right after her marriage to PA ended.

When her marriage to PA ended, she also stopped being represented by Claire Powell. She had done a great job in trying to 're-package' the Jordan persona into a more family-friendly image of wife and mother.
Since then, Katie seems to have floundered between the two images, but Jordan seems to have won over, if the OF contract is anything to go by.

A^ccording to Katie she is not an addict.
^
Denial is part of addiction. Just because she doesn't view herself as an addict doesn't mean she isn't one. If you are driving drunk and drugged on a fairly regular basis then that's a pretty clear sign you have an addiction as far as I am concerned, however a lot of people have an image of an addict in their head of the homeless/criminal heroin addict, and struggle to view themselves as having a common condition with them. Also if you have an addition and don't want to stop, you wouldn't admit it because once it's admitted to can't hide behind the 'just having a drink to let off some steam' 'everyone deserves to party and let their hair down sometimes' 'just a cheeky line' type stuff. Really the only real purpose of the label is for self knowledge and to get help, so if she doesn't want to know and doesn't want to be helped, why call herself an addict? It serves no purpose other than to give the public another weapon to harm her with.

@sparkycats it's very likely they've been there for a long time. Because she was exploited as a child by adults.

@Peachandpearl

A^ccording to Katie she is not an addict. ^ Denial is part of addiction. Just because she doesn't view herself as an addict doesn't mean she isn't one. If you are driving drunk and drugged on a fairly regular basis then that's a pretty clear sign you have an addiction as far as I am concerned, however a lot of people have an image of an addict in their head of the homeless/criminal heroin addict, and struggle to view themselves as having a common condition with them. Also if you have an addition and don't want to stop, you wouldn't admit it because once it's admitted to can't hide behind the 'just having a drink to let off some steam' 'everyone deserves to party and let their hair down sometimes' 'just a cheeky line' type stuff. Really the only real purpose of the label is for self knowledge and to get help, so if she doesn't want to know and doesn't want to be helped, why call herself an addict? It serves no purpose other than to give the public another weapon to harm her with.

Yes and she may not be an addict - many people use drugs when their MH is particularly bad, but they're not using the rest of the time.

I think her problems are not mental health related.
She admitted to going to buy more coke when she crashed early in the morning.

[quote DonnieDark]@sparkycats it's very likely they've been there for a long time. Because she was exploited as a child by adults.[/quote]
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 To all of your posts.

@Thethreecs

I know she's not very much liked, I'm not a fan. I use to like her years ago but she didn't come across well in her last reality programme.

I have to admit that I didn't like the house before, it was very dark and a lot of greys and of course dirty looking. The job done on the woodwork is fab, the rooms they showed finished are lovely and much better than before.

She seemed to be a little bit of her old self in this programme, I think though when men are around her she becomes a dick.

Her kids are amazing, such lovely polite, kind, loving children. The love between them all is clear and I do hope she gets her act together for their sake.

Her sister and Mum are just so nice. Her sister is so genuine and clearly worries about everyone. Her Mum is adorable, poor woman is so ill, she must be so worried as I honestly believe Kate will go off the rails when the Mum dies. The room they did turned out really lovely.

There's so much work needed on the house, the builder Steve is amazing, I want Steve in my house, an honest builder not afraid of work and so helpful and can do anything ❤️

Overall I enjoyed it, I would have loved to see the whole house done but obviously it's not finished yet and with what has been going on in her life.

I hope Kate gets the help she needs. It's obvious that she has mental health issues, I won't comment on how I feel personally about her behaviour as it'll get deleted.

One things for sure, I'll be looking for Steve to come here and I have the urge to paint.

This. I've watched all three episodes. I too felt she'd done a really good job with the different rooms, it could have been any house do up programme that I personally love. Steve the builder - absolute darling. The children seem so lovely, she's brilliant with Harvey and her sister and mum seem lovely. Yes she's gone off the rails, I'd never condone the drink driving etc. But I personally feel for her, I was willing her to succeed and overcome her battles. None of us are perfect, I hope she can come through everything. It feels so sad, I hope she can find her sunshine. If you were at your lowest, what would you want? Support? She's in so deep she doesn't need more bashing. We're not in her shoes. Sending good vibes to her and her fabulous family x ps I've never met the woman and I don't work for her or ch4. But I am human.

The programme skirted over the issue that there is massive ground pollution in the land - raw sewage has contaminated it and it is estimated to be around 700K's worth of work to fix.

Wow this has kicked off

Nicely or will get pulled

You can’t deny she loves her kids and Harvey must be hard work but his dad the footballer never gets slated for walking away

But yes obv all the drink driving is wrong

I get someone does it once , gets caught and hopefully learns

She doesn’t

Is it mn or other issues

I’ve watched e1&2

Will watch 3 tomorrow and be back to report

Fwiw I thought jett and princess rooms were nicely done

Both seemed to appreciate it

@DonnieDark thank you for your posts on here. I’ve watched KP in action for years between my fingers because so clearly the best thing for her to do is walk away from the media, stop with the relationships and try to rebuild. And she can’t do it. It’s a tragedy unfolding. At the same time it sits really uncomfortably to see posters so unaware of the damage a parent who loves their children but otherwise is parenting terribly can do. Love is the bond between parents and children but it means that things are excused and ignored that harm everyone - probably no different for KP herself in her own youth.

I’m sorry you’ve been through some of this and I hope things are getting better even if you’re not ‘fixed.

"Harvey must be hard work but his dad the footballer never gets slated for walking away"

He does get slated for walking away!! But, to put it in context, I have read that he wanted to be involved but Katie made it very difficult - she will have had her reasons for that, but there was a similar scenario with Peter after their divorce. It is quite well-documented that Dwight Yorke paid Katie's mother Amy £30K (?) a year for many years to be Harvey's carer.

@Buttercup2000

So do you think she has been a bad parent to Harvey?

She wheels him out when she can make money from him.

Bleeding enough with this 'she is good mother'.

It is a fucking affront to those of us who manage to be so without the money and resources she has.

She is a disgrace of a mother. All she has managed to do is gather man after man and see her kids separated from each other.

This is assuming these siblings have ever lived together. She is an abomination.

Seriously KP apologisers, raise your bar on what is ok MUCH HIGHER.

This woman is a piss poor example of a mother.

@CallmeHendricks

"Harvey must be hard work but his dad the footballer never gets slated for walking away"

He does get slated for walking away!! But, to put it in context, I have read that he wanted to be involved but Katie made it very difficult - she will have had her reasons for that, but there was a similar scenario with Peter after their divorce. It is quite well-documented that Dwight Yorke paid Katie's mother Amy £30K (?) a year for many years to be Harvey's carer.

Really ?

this is what I meant about the cushion edges

She is a good parent to Harvey. But she is not a single mum with no help. If you watch any of her programs you will see straight away she has a string of nannies available. Harvey is in residential care.

I don't think she has done programs about him to make money. I think she genuinely wanted to raise awareness and stick up for him. I don't slate her for that and think it's one good thing she has done.

[quote Doubleraspberry]@DonnieDark thank you for your posts on here. I’ve watched KP in action for years between my fingers because so clearly the best thing for her to do is walk away from the media, stop with the relationships and try to rebuild. And she can’t do it. It’s a tragedy unfolding. At the same time it sits really uncomfortably to see posters so unaware of the damage a parent who loves their children but otherwise is parenting terribly can do. Love is the bond between parents and children but it means that things are excused and ignored that harm everyone - probably no different for KP herself in her own youth.

I’m sorry you’ve been through some of this and I hope things are getting better even if you’re not ‘fixed. [/quote]
Yes, it's really sad. Especially to watch it unfold so publicly. I hope she does sort herself out instead of going from one drama to another. She needs to use the money to invest in a good business to set herself and her children up and walk away from the media. I am not sure she will do that though. Being famous and causing controversy seems to be what she's about. It's the only way she knows how to make money and the most money. I think that's her addiction.

Her children are going to be able to see and read everything that went on when they are older. I am glad her two eldest seem so rounded, I hope the youngest two are ok too. I am not sure what the dad is like or if he will be a good influence.