Strictly '21 #11: Craig's found his 10 paddle early this year! Will we get another glimpse soon?

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Spoiler-free thread

Previous thread here.

Next week will be interesting. Sara's q/s might be nice, but 9–5 theming is probably going to be annoying. AJ might be great at the Charleston, or her Bambi legs might re-appear. I hope Jojo gets his choreographical mojo back, I haven't really got properly into their last few dances and rumba is a tricky one!

Why is being emotional a "self-indulgence"?

@MyCatEatsPrawnCrackers

Nobody will ever out-cry Ore!

Alexandra burke cried a lot.

I remember seeing a pic of Ore on his wedding day getting tearful, it’s just the way he is. He’s just lovely.

Alexandra Burke was recently bereaved so it's a different emotional state.

I agree, Alexandra Burke was different given her mum had noting died.

For me @SoupDragon, they're wealthy celebrities taking part in one of the most popular programmes on UK TV, learning a new skill from top professionals, earning a lot of money, raising their profiles & likely future earning potential - there's nothing to cry over at all. I get it if you've been bereaved (like Alexandra) but for everyone else, cry in private if you need to but publicly I want to see joy on TV in a show like Strictly, not tears.

I love seeing the journeys and peoples progression but not the tears.

Just my personal view obviously!

• No idea why 'recently' changed to noting

So, it's OK to show emotion so long as you're not so overwhelmed with happiness that you cry. Some people jump up and down like Rose and Gio did, some cry (I'd be a crier!).

Emotions aren't something that are necessarily easily controlled.

@JacquelineCarlyle

I agree, Alexandra Burke was different given her mum had noting died.

For me @SoupDragon, they're wealthy celebrities taking part in one of the most popular programmes on UK TV, learning a new skill from top professionals, earning a lot of money, raising their profiles & likely future earning potential - there's nothing to cry over at all. I get it if you've been bereaved (like Alexandra) but for everyone else, cry in private if you need to but publicly I want to see joy on TV in a show like Strictly, not tears.

I love seeing the journeys and peoples progression but not the tears.

Just my personal view obviously!

This but also tears often feel a bit emotionally manipulative to me. Vote for me because I'll be soooo sad if you don't. I was never a fan of Couples Choice but now it has become an excuse to shoehorn in a sob story I have absolutely no desire to be subjected to it. As can be seen from these threads we choose how we vote for a huge variety of reasons ('best' dancer, most entertaining performance, pro's we love, celebs we like, celeb improvement etc) for me I don't need weepy tales and misery one upmanship.

I'm sure Alexandra got slated for crying on these threads when she was taking part actually.

Vote for me because I'll be soooo sad if you don't.

But they aren't crying with sadness.

Alex did indeed get slagged off at length by some people on various forums for crying and being "fake". Her heart on her sleeve "X Factor" style wasn't to my personal taste but it didn't make her a bad person and specifically I thought the people attacking her for breaking down when recently bereaved were vile.

@SoupDragon

Vote for me because I'll be soooo sad if you don't.

But they aren't crying with sadness.

But the implication behind I'm dancing this for the neighbours, hairdressers dead cat sob stories that are creeping in is exactly that. Vote for me because oh the hardship. I feel like tears at the drop of the hat are sometimes manipulative. Yes they are sometimes a totally spontaneous response to amazing scores/comments but when they are part of a pre-dance sob story it feels like a ploy to garner votes to me.

Imagine if everytime you did well at work you cried, that's basically what they're doing.

@bonfireheart

Imagine if everytime you did well at work you cried, that's basically what they're doing.

No, that would be the equivalent of the pro dancers crying.

I find the idea that people should suppress their emotions somewhat distasteful.

@bonfireheart

Imagine if everytime you did well at work you cried, that's basically what they're doing.

I'm perimenopausal, I don't need to imagine.

And I am sure people have criticised the likes of Dan for appearing 'smug'...ie giving calm, collected post dance interviews, smiling and not showing emotion....

The vitriol dished out to AB was awful.

As is your right to @SoupDragon - no one is saying that you should change how you feel. I was just saying how I feel about it and i also think it's manipulative.

FWIW, I never once said a word about Alexandra when she cried as that was totally different and had Ugo cried when he performed on the same day as his dads funeral (or anytime in the series due to being recently bereaved) that would have also been totally different to me. I also cried at Greg's VT about his sister as again he was recently bereaved and his sister was a fan.

They're very different genuinely sad emotions that don't bother me when expressed but when it feels like a sob story (& therefore manipulation), I hate it.

Plus I absolutely hate it when the pros cry - as that really feels manipulative to me as each season they move onto a new partner without a second glance & (from what I've read in the media), very rarely keep in touch with their celebrity, so that's just fake to me.

Anyway, it's a strictly thread and I honestly watch it to feel upbeat and happy, so certainly don't want to be arguing with strangers on the internet 😁

I meant without a backwards glance (not second glance).

I am the same with tears, I can excuse once but frequent tears turn me off.
It was one of things that turned me around to liking AJ, in week 3 after the Whitney dance she was emotional mentioned it was a tough week but held it together. On the strictly instagram page during the post dance talk she suddenly decided she's done chatting because she is off for a cry.

I cry most days at work. Very rarely in front of anyone, usually in private in the loo or empty consult room.

Menopause is only half to blame, I try to stop it but it just falls out. No noise. Just tears. Lots and lots of tears.

I could stop it, it’s not always successful but if I internalised my day all of the time I would fear for my health. It must be lovely to cry because you’re happy.

Just realised I half contradicted myself. I can stop it by pinching my hand or thigh really hard. But without doing that it I have no control. But I bruise really easily so it’s easier to just head for a quiet space.

I agree it’s just a TV show & some of the crying is a bit extreme but I don’t begrudge Johannes or John. They aren’t tearful about the dancing. They are tearful because they are being accepted for being gay. And actively supported. Read John’s Insta-story he’s got up at the moment. That’s the reason they are tearful. The dancing is just that but in their case, there’s a lot of emotion & personal hardship behind it in their actual lives. Johannes hasn’t been a particularly teary pro in previous seasons. This clearly means a hell of a lot to him.

 for you @FitYeDaeinYeMadRadge in your work and all it takes from you.

Your posts are always full of such wit that it's jarring to hear that your work is so intense.

Has anyone done a waltz yet? Can't remember seeing one, unless it was Tilly's first dance? What's that about?