MAFSAUS 8 thread 3 - awkwardly Drawing each other like one of your French girls.

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New thread before the old one disappears- ready for Monday's commitment ceremony!

Me too, he seems really nice though you don’t hear an awful lot from him. However, I bet he’s scared to say the wrong thing with her. He went up in my estimation when he spoke up to defend her and the other women at the dinner table.

I really like Georgia. She is so straightforward, I think she would have been great with Jake. I think they both have a lot of compassion.

I suspect Brett is a not quite the sensitive deep thinker we were led to believe he is. Weird how the producers decide how they are going to portray people.

I really can't like Kerry. She just grins insanely while telling poor Johnny that she sees her ex everyday. Weird.

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I really like Georgia. She is so straightforward, I think she would have been great with Jake. I think they both have a lot of compassion.

I suspect Brett is a not quite the sensitive deep thinker we were led to believe he is. Weird how the producers decide how they are going to portray people.

I really can't like Kerry. She just grins insanely while telling poor Johnny that she sees her ex everyday. Weird.

Agree with all of this.

I bet Georgia would have brought out jakes fun side too.

So here’s my take on everything so far:

Patrick and Belinda:
I agree with a PP that she has some sort of arrested development, her attitude and even what she wears reminds me of a 13yo going out with their first boyfriend. She doesn’t even want to touch Pat, she massaged him with her foot. I find her immaturity a bit annoying TBH
I called it on the last thread - Patrick is a shit stirrer!! The letter to Booka was SO harsh and personal (and am I the only one to detect a little misogyny - I wonder how many conversations Pat has had with self absorbed men and had it bother him). They were like a pair of bullies giggling at the nasty bits they were writing. It wasn’t up to Patrick to tell her what Brett didn’t like about her. And he knew that! And Patrick saying “I just want to help their relationship” - bullshit!! Let’s not let the Ned Flanders child-like personas fool us into thinking they can’t be unkind.

Booka and Brett:
She went too far with the Everything Brett but if he’d just had the balls to say to her “I think it’s a little all about you at times” none of this would have happened. There’s no ownership. I also took from it that the ‘deep, intense’ conversations were Booka just trying to tell him not to make inappropriate jokes - as she’d said a few times they disagreed when it came to humour and social issues. She apologised at the dinner party but he refused to say sorry for running to his mates to slag her off. He cannot cope with conflict at all.

I actually get the distinct impression that the Bromance between Patrick, Brett and Jake is the driving force as to why all 3 stay in the ixperiment. None of them are getting much out the experiment, but their friendship is great so they’re expecting the wives to sit pretty while they make friends. I can’t believe Patrick apologised to Brett for the at letter but not Booka!

Kerry and Johnny:
love them!! The only genuine couple left it seems

Bryce and Melissa::
I can’t really add anything to what others have said about this toxic, disturbing relationship. I think it’s also ok to feel frustrated at Melissa. I had a friend who, for 2 years, stayed in a violent relationship. We all knew and her excuses for his behaviour made it so hard for us to be sympathetic. It’s all very well perpetuating the idea that we can save victims of DA with a good talking to but the reality is so different

Alana and Jason:
They’ve shagged each other into boredom. Re the shakes - my brother is a former drug addict and hasn’t touched drugs in 15 years - he’s only just stopped shaking. It’s apparently common with those who’ve had a heavy drink intake too (which Jason always does look like he’s been on a bender). Wondering if this is related to Jason’s shakes in any way.

Liam and Georgia:
He is massively punching but for some reason thinks it’s the other way around. I think he’s very unattractive both in looks and personality. Bitching with Bec was in such bad taste.

Jake and Bec:
He’s there for the bromance, she’s there because he keeps saying stay. I did laugh at their swapping task though!

Does anyone else think that Belinda and Patrick might be on the autism spectrum? It was my first thought when initially hearing from Patrick but between the two there seems to be a lack of reading social cues. Girls in particular can hide more obvious traits and are often diagnosed later in life.

I think the issue with belinda is that she likes Pat as a person but doesn't feel attracted to him. I can relate to that and understand that she feels weird trying to force it.

I think (from stalking Booka's insta) that she is very supportive of LGBT rights. And I really suspect that the boys childish cracking jokes about bromances etc feels wrong to her. I was also uncomfortable when Liam revealed he was bisexual at the wedding and Pat didn't know what to do with himself. He just couldn't get his head round it. And then at the dinner a week later Brett sat on Liam's lap. It's so awkward that grown men don't know how to act around someone who is not heterosexual.

I agree about Georgia. She's a lovely person and absolutely gorgeous looking as well. She deserves better than Trump Junior.

Just caught up and I wonder if Bryce will say he wants to leave. Not to split up with Melissa but because he feels that being in the experiment is destroying their relationship.

Bryce thrives on the drama. No way would he ever suggest leaving because it would mean Melissa being exposed to influences outside the bubble.

Yeah, but Melissa would never write leave so what is he achieving? They’d both have to discuss it and write leave. I agree though, he’s safe in this bubble of the experiment where her family can’t talk to her. He’s still in control so will not voluntarily go.

Checking in - nearly caught up. Bryce is just like my ex husband - never wrong and won't take on board any criticism. Thankfully I'm not a Melissa and I got out.

The longer I watch the more issues I have with the series. No surprise there though.

Not a spoiler as it's about people who've already left the experiment, but the recruitment process leaves a lot to be desired, as does the manipulation of various participants and the lack of duty of care.

There were a lot of things I heard from Jamie on the podcast broadcast in Australia, which painted Chris in quite a different light. Although, that said, he didn't have the right to reply there and I can't see if he has addressed it anywhere else.

I am absolutely not victim blaming, more musing on the question why people just don't say NO? This is specifically regarding the accusation that production made her stay overnight in a bedroom when she didn't feel safe. It was said that the hotel was full, so no other room available. You'd think production staff could've doubled up, or, they'd have found a room elsewhere rather than have that complaint levelled at them. I'd like to think I would've stood my ground if I felt unsafe, but of course, I wasn't there to know what went on.

It just seems as though programmes like this are perfectly happy to see reputations and wellbeing sacrificed for the sake of a specific slant on the storyline. Thee are no winners, on the one hand Jamie felt unsafe and unhappy and that was ignored, if the reverse is true, Chris has been unjustly accused and the producers made to look very bad.

If anyone wanted to listen the podcast is called So Dramatic! by Megan Pustetto and I got it on Spotify. Be warned though it's two episodes of over an hour each, so there's a fair amount of repetition, but no spoilers as it was broadcast 26th April 2020 and the show was still ongoing.

Why did Jaime feel unsafe with Chris?

Just as a thing, now that people have gone, is stuff about them counted as spoilers? I'm assuming not...

@sunshinelover69

Checking in - nearly caught up. Bryce is just like my ex husband - never wrong and won't take on board any criticism. Thankfully I'm not a Melissa and I got out.

I know, even his very rational mother made good points and he literally said "Well Melissa's happy so I'm not listening to my mum"

I hope it's not a grey area. There's no jeopardy about the outcome of that couple's time on the programme and I haven't given away anything that they're doing now.

One of the big problems with the series is avoiding the spoilers about the eventual results of the various couplings, there's just so much all over the press and Instagram etc. I wouldn't share any of that though.

@sunshinelover69

Why did Jaime feel unsafe with Chris?

Should I start a spoiler thread if people would like to discuss that and others rather not see?

@meadowbleu can do although is it really a spoiler if they've now left?

Oh God. I think Melissa is very odd. 'Pat's thing.' I think you mean his dick, my dear.

@sunshinelover69 That's Belinda not Melissa (who is with Bryce) I have my own thoughts about her. I'm not at all sure she's quite as she seems.

Personally I don't think it's a spoiler but seeing as people are asking the question. I just don't want to tread on any toes, especially as some of the stuff is serious rather than he said she said.

@sunshinelover69

Oh God. I think Melissa is very odd. 'Pat's thing.' I think you mean his dick, my dear.

Sorry yes, I meant Belinda.

[quote meadowbleu]@sunshinelover69 That's Belinda not Melissa (who is with Bryce) I have my own thoughts about her. I'm not at all sure she's quite as she seems.

Personally I don't think it's a spoiler but seeing as people are asking the question. I just don't want to tread on any toes, especially as some of the stuff is serious rather than he said she said.[/quote]
I was only asking the question because I don't think it would be but other people have a far lower tolerance for spoiler adjacent material than I (even if something is a spoiler, I don't really mind!)

Spill, @meadowbleu !!

I think it's fine to post about Jaime and Chris as they barely featured.

Checking in.